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Mr Somewhere said:
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Batman. I just don't get it. I felt that Nicholas cage's character in Kick-Ass, even though it was a parody of sorts, was better. But I just find Batman dull and lacking the individuality of other superheroes.
Just out of curiosity, have you read any Batman comics? If you'd any of the classics, I'm certain you wouldn't be saying this. Batman has more character in him then most people realise.
I'll admit I haven't, and so my interpretation is based entirely on movies. That being said, Batman Begins/Dark Knight Batman does absolutely nothing for me
 

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manythings said:
Kitsuna10060 said:
for me?
Super Man
In his defence there was a cartoon series back in the late 90's where he was actually well written. It made a big difference. he's so recognisable they have to keep him completely vanilla or risk offending Uncle Sam.
yeah, the cartoon in the 90s was good, as was Justice League (hell almost all the DC cartoons are good) doesn't really make my claim any less valid XD
 

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Reallink said:
Mr Somewhere said:
Reallink said:
Batman. I just don't get it. I felt that Nicholas cage's character in Kick-Ass, even though it was a parody of sorts, was better. But I just find Batman dull and lacking the individuality of other superheroes.
Just out of curiosity, have you read any Batman comics? If you'd any of the classics, I'm certain you wouldn't be saying this. Batman has more character in him then most people realise.
I'll admit I haven't, and so my interpretation is based entirely on movies. That being said, Batman Begins/Dark Knight Batman does absolutely nothing for me
I'd give Long Halloween a look, if you were curious... just to give it another shot. Bale's Batman can be more hit or miss then people tend to admit.
 

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Deadpool.

He's pretty awesome, but every voice actor that has ever done him has had an annoying voice. I imagine him with sortof a cockney thing going.
 
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That badass Skag I saw yesterday wasn't so badass.

Because my friends and I not only killed it, but all its runty offspring and his big brother Badass Burning Skag, AND his sister Badass Corrosive Skag!

......Yes, My friends and I freakin love borderlands.
 
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nukethetuna said:
Not really sure how he feels about Lavos.
I always saw him as an adventure loving slacker, actually. As in, when he sees the video and is asked if he wants to save the world, his response is "Got nothing better to do this week. ...Eh, why not? How hard could it be to stop an oversized porcupine?".
 

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Lois Lane.

Yeah she maybe a spunky reporter and have her own mind and be strong for her man. Yeah Superman is a symbol of good an all but if someone like Lex was trying to kill my husband he would be dead before he could shine his stupid head. I'd take his cakes too.
 

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Batman what other hero does not have any superpowers not a one so he stands alone

also the Navy SEALS no need to explain that one
 

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Kira/Light Yagami

He's fucking evil. And he begs for his life before he dies.

I understand that people like having a power-trip fantasy, but I've never understood why people think Light is in the right in any way. He's a murderer, plain and simple.
People think he's in the right because he only kills criminals; well at first. He lost my support when he started offing people associated with the investigation.
He really lost any chance of getting it back when he killed his own father to cover his tracks
I think you missed the point. You were supposed to identify with him at first. And later, to realize just how far he's fallen. He still claimed to want to make the world a better place, but he had become so arrogant and corrupt that he was willing to kill everyone around him. Power corrupts as they say.

You mention him killing his father (he didn't but he sure wasn't upset about it), but I was more shocked when he considered killing his little sister. So yeah, he wasn't a bad ass. He was just an ass.
Interestingly, I approached the show differently. I never *sympathized* with Light, per se. I never actually considered his cause just. But since this is a show and not real life, and since he's the viewpoint character, and since what he's doing is more interesting and smart and badass than the status quo, I got invested in his goal and wanted him to win. Obviously, in real life, I'd much prefer he fail--but in the show, I was in his corner.
 

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pyramid head grape:

Dango:
I believe you forgot the "is" in the title.

OT: Gordon Freeman. A silent protagonist who is far less easy to like than most other silent protagonists.

Ya gordon sucks LOLz
XD

OT: This dude
because I killed him in 3 seconds flat.

I am honestly a Sepheroth fan, but with that said all I had to do was cast Knights of The Round with X4 materia and somebody else with mimic materia. I sorta felt bad for him.

"I am a god now you think you can de*oof stop hitting me stop hitting me! It hurts!"

As you can see i don't know how to quote.

Anyway i was gonna say sephiroth because hes my fav bad guy but he never stops bitching about how much he misses jenova
 

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I know he looks cool and all, but am I wrong, or wasn't the whole point of Rorschach that he's an unstable sociopath and a right wing nut job? (In fact, his favourite magazine is basically FOX News on paper) So why do so many people love him?
Did you SEE the movie? Fuck. Most badass dude I've seen in ages. The prison scenes just made me gawk.
 

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Lu Bu in the Dynasty Warriors series.

I know he was one of the most, if not the most, powerful individual warrior in the Three Kingdoms era, but seriously Koei.
What are you saying? Koei made Lu Bu a weak character?
 

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Kratos.

Admittedly he's fairly more badass in the original GoW but even that opens with him trying to kill himself.

Post GoW 1 he's a selfish prick who gets himself into trouble and whines when he's actually held responsible to his action. In the third installment he causes havoc around him, namely killing more or less all of the innocent populus around him, just because he has some glorified daddy issues.
 

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-Drifter- said:


I know he looks cool and all, but am I wrong, or wasn't the whole point of Rorschach that he's an unstable sociopath and a right wing nut job? (In fact, his favourite magazine is basically FOX News on paper) So why do so many people love him?
You've gotten a lot of quotes on this one... people have already covered a lot of what the appeal is, but here's a few other things his character represents:

- An complete underdog, fighting [sub]with psychotic brutality[/sub] against crime and corruption; taking out the trash.

- Willpower and strength of conviction; morality on which he'll never compromise... even in the face of Armageddon

- He's a tiny guy, but has true grit, cajones and moxy to spare; nothing intimidates him, nothing keeps him down, nothing phases him and he is relentless.

- In a challenging, confusing and complicated world of grey scale morality, he stands an appealing beacon of more black and white right and wrong, delivering brutal retribution to people (most people) will agree deserve it.

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Plus, beyond symbolism...

- His character's visual design is impeccably perfect for the role in both the comic and in the movie, where Jackey Haley was a bulls eye casting choice and carried that sorta Clint Eastwood "Unforgiven" era cool.

- For any gingers who have been bullied for whatever reason, scenes where he lashes out in violence in his childhood flashbacks or in prison has got to be pretty vicariously cathartic.

- He's got an interesting way of talking. The now standard GRIMDARK gravelly monotone is made a lot more interesting by his "bullet point" commentary and observations typically spoken as grammatically 'off' sentences that drop the subject and roll out in a stream of predicates.

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Also, lastly, as you may have guessed from number of quotes your post got... He's a character that MAKES people THINK about him, which means they're interested enough to consider him pretty neat ;).
 

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Rutskarn said:
Saltyk said:
KeyMaster45 said:
000Ronald said:
Kira/Light Yagami

He's fucking evil. And he begs for his life before he dies.

I understand that people like having a power-trip fantasy, but I've never understood why people think Light is in the right in any way. He's a murderer, plain and simple.
People think he's in the right because he only kills criminals; well at first. He lost my support when he started offing people associated with the investigation.
He really lost any chance of getting it back when he killed his own father to cover his tracks
I think you missed the point. You were supposed to identify with him at first. And later, to realize just how far he's fallen. He still claimed to want to make the world a better place, but he had become so arrogant and corrupt that he was willing to kill everyone around him. Power corrupts as they say.

You mention him killing his father (he didn't but he sure wasn't upset about it), but I was more shocked when he considered killing his little sister. So yeah, he wasn't a bad ass. He was just an ass.
Interestingly, I approached the show differently. I never *sympathized* with Light, per se. I never actually considered his cause just. But since this is a show and not real life, and since he's the viewpoint character, and since what he's doing is more interesting and smart and badass than the status quo, I got invested in his goal and wanted him to win. Obviously, in real life, I'd much prefer he fail--but in the show, I was in his corner.
Well, for me, I looked at it like what would I do with a Deathnote. Assuming that I used it, what's the best thing you could do? Kill the world's most violent criminals. It was also worth noting that Light only killed those that murdered in cold blood. They actually say that he didn't kill those that killed accidentally. I honestly couldn't say that I wouldn't do the same. It is even stated in the series, that the world was becoming more peaceful as time went on. Killing the people that were trying to find him seemed like a necessary evil, though I couldn't say I would have. And it is worth noting that if Light had simply let L be on television, the entire investigation would have passed by and even acted as proof that he didn't exist. Still, it created the much needed conflict.

And like you said, he was the main character, so it was basically impossible NOT to become invested in Light. And obviously I wouldn't want him to win in real life and was glad that he died in the end (though I liked the manga ending better), but I also wanted him to win. I think it was supposed to make you question yourself and morality as a whole. To make you uncomfortable. To say, "Am I really okay with this?" That's what I liked most about the series: It made you question yourself.
 

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Kratos, he's a dude throwing a temper tantrum for 5 games who doesn't seem to give half a shite about his family being murdered. Also his choice of weapons makes absolutely no sense, seriously can anyone actually picture him putting in the hours of practice it would take to master that weird kusarigama technique he uses.
 

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Captain Falcon.

He calls out all of his attacks like a retard, runs like a retard, and he power humps you as one of his attacks. Also, his catch phrase is SHOW ME YA MOVES. Come on, Cap... can't you think of something better than that?
 

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ChupathingyX said:
StellarViking said:
Lu Bu in the Dynasty Warriors series.

I know he was one of the most, if not the most, powerful individual warrior in the Three Kingdoms era, but seriously Koei.
What are you saying? Koei made Lu Bu a weak character?
No, I'm saying that Koei made Lu Bu such an overpowered character that it makes certain levels difficult until you have a stronger character.