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The Adoring Fan from Oblivion...because he exists...

Oh, wait, someone that people like. Uh...Boba Fett.

*kicks a fanboy running up to bring him a copy of Tales of the Bounty Hunter*

THERE IS NO EXPANDED UNIVERSE!!!
 

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000Ronald said:
Kira/Light Yagami

He's fucking evil. And he begs for his life before he dies.

I understand that people like having a power-trip fantasy, but I've never understood why people think Light is in the right in any way. He's a murderer, plain and simple.
I'd like to add batshit insane to this list.
He's still awesome though.

The amount of steps he thinks ahead is just mind-numbing.
 

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Galliam said:
Wolverine. The only reason he's so badass is that the writers keep upping his actual powers to the point where if theres a fleck of skin left of him somewhere, he's coming back. He slashes shit and yeah he's a good fighter, but how much of a mary sue is he really? They jam him full of sharp, indestructible metal and then make it so he can't die even if he didn't have it?


Buuuuulllllshit.
No matter how badass they try and make Wolverine, nothing will detract from the fact that he was once saved by Jubilee. That is the immediate nullification of all awesome.
 

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Kitsuna10060 said:
for me?
Super Man
In his defence there was a cartoon series back in the late 90's where he was actually well written. It made a big difference. he's so recognisable they have to keep him completely vanilla or risk offending Uncle Sam.

OT: Ben Grimm/The Thing, he always struck me as the Hulk with a whining little ***** at the controls.

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Commander Shepard,
He also doesn't see the problem with working with a clandestine group of racist and well funded terrorists who are at the same time incredibly inept and dangerous to all living beings. He may occasionally say he hates them, but he always works with them toward their goals no matter the choices you make.

The guy never thinks ahead, never uses strategy, never takes a calculated gamble, he just blunders into big situations and shoots things and talks with dudes until they get resolved, usually requiring a large portion of luck as well.
Contradict much?
 

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Dango said:
I believe you forgot the "is" in the title.

OT: Gordon Freeman. A silent protagonist who is far less easy to like than most other silent protagonists.
Ya gordon sucks LOLz
XD

OT: This dude

because I killed him in 3 seconds flat.
 

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Wutaiflea said:
Galliam said:
Wolverine. The only reason he's so badass is that the writers keep upping his actual powers to the point where if theres a fleck of skin left of him somewhere, he's coming back. He slashes shit and yeah he's a good fighter, but how much of a mary sue is he really? They jam him full of sharp, indestructible metal and then make it so he can't die even if he didn't have it?


Buuuuulllllshit.
No matter how badass they try and make Wolverine, nothing will detract from the fact that he was once saved by Jubilee. That is the immediate nullification of all awesome.
Also, there's something that has always puzzled me about Wolverine. It's in how he got his powers in the first movie.

His entire skeleton is coated with adamantium, but in order for that to actually work, doesn't that mean that the (supposedly) indestructible metal had to be melted into a liquid to be administered? Furthermore, in the movie, it was clearly seen through transparent plastic hoses, so wouldn't it be fair to say that it has a lower melting point than plastic?

In fact, considering that it wasn't glowing from all the IR and heat emitted from being heated to melting point, it must have a very low melting point. Metals with low melting points, like aluminum or tin do not glow when melted.

So that means it has a melting point that can be reached by conventional means, which means that it's not as indestructible as people make it out to be.

So, given this, wouldn't that mean that if you had a mutant with the ability to create vast amounts of heat, it would be possible to completely melt his claws and burn him to a crisp? Hell, a bit of human technology could do it, considering that normal human scientists were the ones who gave him the claws/skeleton in the first place.

Also, microwaves would be pretty lethal to someone who's skeleton is made out of metal, which reminds me, in the first film they put him into an MRI machine instead of an X-ray to check his health.

How the hell did they get such a clear image? Even the smallest pieces of metal, like screws, can distort an MRI. MRI machines fail if you have any kind of metal inside them, since they work using strong magnetic fields, so either the image is distorted or the metal is flung into the sides of the machine which can cause damage to it (which is ill-advised since MRI machines are expensive). And, if Magneto could bend his claws (which leads me to deduce that adamantium is magnetic), then how come the MRI didn't at least make his claws stick to the sides of the machine and ruin the interior?

I know I shouldn't be looking for logic in a movie based on a comic book, but if you're going to be setting these things in the real world and play them out as if they actually could happen, then it's reasonable that they adhere to some of the basic traits of reality.

I'm not particularly au fait with the comics to know why adamantium is indestructible, so I suppose there's a reason, but nobody has been able to give me one, yet. Maybe someone could help me out on this?
 

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Sudenak said:
suitepee7 said:
other than that though, vader is still fucking badass!
He's Anakin Skyalker.

-notches him off the badass list for life-
no no no, the first three films didn't happen, darth vader is not anakin skywalker...

>_>
Uh.... technically even if they didn't happen he still was Anakin. He just isn't a pussy ass little *****.

And Kratos. The guy was fine in the first one, because his motive made sense... kinda. But everywhere else he is just a half-naked asshole with a blood and guts fetish stronger than the bastard child of Jigsaw and Dracula.
 

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Galliam said:
Wolverine. The only reason he's so badass is that the writers keep upping his actual powers to the point where if theres a fleck of skin left of him somewhere, he's coming back. He slashes shit and yeah he's a good fighter, but how much of a mary sue is he really? They jam him full of sharp, indestructible metal and then make it so he can't die even if he didn't have it?


Buuuuulllllshit.
I admit that in some comics featuring Wolverine he's a Marty Stu (Mary Sue is what you call the girls), but we were supposed to explain why he's not an ultimate badass. THe first thing you've written is "The only reason he's so badass is..." meaning that you do consider him to be a badass and is going to explain why. Your point is that Wolverine is a Marty Stu, but you're not claiming he's not as badass as people think.
 

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believer258 said:
Nope, he was actually quite high ranking. We discussed this in my Scripture class. Lucifer, as he was originally known, just wanted more - he wasn't satisfied with being a higher ranking angel, he pretty much wanted to be God himself. Which really turned out to be not such a good idea, because God kicked him right out of Heaven along with 1/3 of the angels that followed him.
I know the story, but is that traceable in the Bible, or is it dictated by tradition and theology? (Honest question.)

As for Milton, he's the one who painted Satan as a charismatic and somewhat sympathetic character. His idea was, I think, that the Devil must be appealing if he is to be a worthy adversary for God. Since then, however, people have been doing their best to quote Paradise Lost out of context.

believer258 said:
Anyway, I want to say, and this might be a bit blasphemous to some people, but Commander Shephard. Yes, that Shephard. Really, he doesn't do anything that some other dolt couldn't have done, he just happened to be in the right place at the right time to get where he is. He's great, sure, but not amazingly strong or powerful.
S/he gets involved in the whole Reaper affair because s/he's a war hero (that's why s/he's considered for the Spectres in the first place), which is more than you can say about most other blokes who save the world. But yeah, it seems mighty wasteful, for example, that Cerberus would resurrect Shepard instead of hiring someone else and using the time and money thus saved to build weapons and recruit armies.

The song [http://youtu.be/HeY-2ovpF9c] still rocks, though.
 

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000Ronald said:
Kira/Light Yagami

He's fucking evil. And he begs for his life before he dies.

I understand that people like having a power-trip fantasy, but I've never understood why people think Light is in the right in any way. He's a murderer, plain and simple.
in the first part of DN he was a self-righteous guy that wanted to make the world a better place (by making himself the last evil person) until he started killing people that where in his way and he ended up being power hungry
 

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-Drifter- said:


I know he looks cool and all, but am I wrong, or wasn't the whole point of Rorschach that
1) he's an unstable sociopath and a right wing nut job? (In fact, his favourite magazine is basically FOX News on paper)

2) So why do so many people love him?
1) Even Alan Moore, a radical leftist, came to admire a lot in his creation. The point of the Watchmen was to try to imagine what real costumed vigilantes would be like. To dress up like that and fight crime would not require madness, but it would sure help. His particular madness motivates him, makes him what his is, and people love much about what he is which is...
2) An uncompromising, brave, resourceful avenger. While he shares much with the Comedian, the Comedian really was evil. Rorschach was on balance, fighting for what he thought was right, even if somewhat demented in his reasoning.
 

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k-ossuburb said:
Also, there's something that has always puzzled me about Wolverine. It's in how he got his powers in the first movie.

His entire skeleton is coated with adamantium, but in order for that to actually work, doesn't that mean that the (supposedly) indestructible metal had to be melted into a liquid to be administered? Furthermore, in the movie, it was clearly seen through transparent plastic hoses, so wouldn't it be fair to say that it has a lower melting point than plastic?

In fact, considering that it wasn't glowing from all the IR and heat emitted from being heated to melting point, it must have a very low melting point. Metals with low melting points, like aluminum or tin do not glow when melted.

So that means it has a melting point that can be reached by conventional means, which means that it's not as indestructible as people make it out to be.
I think, but I'm not positive, that they mentioned, in the movie at least, that once adamantium had been liquified and then cooled/hardened it became indestructible.
 

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zombiejoe said:
lacktheknack said:
Kitsuna10060 said:
zombiejoe said:
Kitsuna10060 said:
zombiejoe said:
i was not aware Cthulhu was 'awesome' or 'bad ass'
A lot of people think he is. I think the idea is pretty cool, but he isn't an unstoppable beast like people believe he is.
>.> i see, i always saw it as a stupid looking squid monster thing, a mid boss at best basically, or a tougher normal enemy, ya know, the kinda thing you flatten an move on
He DOES explode your brain by looking at you...
Well he doesn't explode it so much as make you insane, but yeah, that is pretty awesome...good thing we got boats.
Reminds me of an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer where this demon named The Judge was resurrected, last time he died it took an entire army to take him down. Then Buffy realized that last time he died the army was probably using spears or swords, and in modern days we have bazookas!

She blew him up with a bazooka. Where's Cthuhlu? Gonna A-bomb his ass back to the Plateau of Leng.
 

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Just about every protagonist that has been in a game int he past couple years...

But srsly Master Cheif.

Boring, boring and more boring.
 

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Necromancer Jim said:
Chuck Norris. He is not cool. Why?

He is a fucking idiot. Seriously.

You ruined this thread for me. Thanks. *grumble* Posting Glen Beck at the very beginning*mutter*grumble* HOW WILL I EVER RAISE MY MOOD WITH REFERENCES TO HIM ALL OVER THE PLACE?!

Also, is Chuck Norris trying to be conservative? If so, agreed. If not, his viewpoint seems coherent enough to me, even if it's not well-thought out.
 

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Kitsuna10060 said:
for me?
Super Man

1) he's dumb, never seen him in kinda fight the required more thought an skill from him then 'punch with right, then with left' or, fly threw a wall when there's a perfectly good door he could use -.- but that's a brain function beyond him.
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This seems apt:
[http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=352]