Will console graphics ever beat PC graphics?
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maybe possibele!
computers have a focus on other things than graphics, while consoles are focused on games.
Sure, a custom computer will always beat a console, but it is very possible that in a few years your average console will beat your average computer.
computers have a focus on other things than graphics, while consoles are focused on games.
Sure, a custom computer will always beat a console, but it is very possible that in a few years your average console will beat your average computer.
Isn't it physically impossible for consoles to beat PC graphics? If they do, then the very next day someone will release a better graphics card and consoles will have to wait 5 years for their next hardware upgrade in the form of a new console. Consoles will eventually reach today's level of graphics, but by then computers will be better already.
Theres a lot of things worth taking into account, but I think the smarter gamer will play on both. Even if you have a really shitty PC I would wager that PC can still play older games on DoSBox (or maybe even run DoS). Most consoles go for pretty cheap now and I think that if you are able to purchase your own games it's worth getting a PS2 or something just for that back catalogue.JeanLuc761 said:
Actually, thinking about it, graphics really aren't that important.
From a technical standpoint, yes, there is a very high chance consoles will defeat PCs, but due to the fact that PC's regularly get hardware and software updates, The PC will always stand on top, it would literally be a time factor.
That's probably right. Most people have a PC so saying that the PC is worse than a console is a faulty stance to take. The only time that PCs should compete with something over forums is with MACs and the MAC VS PC war stopped involving gaming a long time ago.mikozero said:
Consoles adhere to a set standard, that's set on its release date, never allowing for upgrades or improvement, all developers can hope to do is get the most out of the set standard hardware.
PC hardware is always being improved all the time. The limitations are simply whatever's newest at the time, as opposed to the hardware on a particular date, which could be something like 4 or 5 years old in the case of consoles.
The likelyhood of consoles surpassing PC is very low in terms of visuals. It is still possible however.
There is a major increase lately of the Xbox 360 hardware being used as the set standard for development, with no improvements made to sit the capabilities of a standard gaming PC. This has lead to Xbox 360 itterations of games having superior visuals to their PC counterparts.
There's also a new movement from many PC developers, that are focusing on mass marketing by making games have lower system requirements, to reach a wider demographic. PC gaming as a mainstream platform is slowly declining, however as an indie platform, and a platform for experimentation, it's still massive.
TLDR; It depends on the developers and other factors.
PC hardware is always being improved all the time. The limitations are simply whatever's newest at the time, as opposed to the hardware on a particular date, which could be something like 4 or 5 years old in the case of consoles.
The likelyhood of consoles surpassing PC is very low in terms of visuals. It is still possible however.
There is a major increase lately of the Xbox 360 hardware being used as the set standard for development, with no improvements made to sit the capabilities of a standard gaming PC. This has lead to Xbox 360 itterations of games having superior visuals to their PC counterparts.
There's also a new movement from many PC developers, that are focusing on mass marketing by making games have lower system requirements, to reach a wider demographic. PC gaming as a mainstream platform is slowly declining, however as an indie platform, and a platform for experimentation, it's still massive.
TLDR; It depends on the developers and other factors.
No, because consoles are just lobotomized computers.
Also, if somehow a dedicated gaming console managed to come out with the cutting edge hardware dedicated soley to one thing, which is running games, it might theoretically beat an equally cutting edge PC since the PC has to handle a ton of other stuff in the background, but that lead would last a few months at most, before the PCs would overtake the console again.
Finally, the above example is never going to happen, simply because console development takes time. When designing a console, the designers need to decide on the hardware they are going to use. However, even if they use the best there is, by the time the console is ready (which likely takes a few years) something better will have come along.
So no, console graphics aren't going to beat PC graphics.
Also, if somehow a dedicated gaming console managed to come out with the cutting edge hardware dedicated soley to one thing, which is running games, it might theoretically beat an equally cutting edge PC since the PC has to handle a ton of other stuff in the background, but that lead would last a few months at most, before the PCs would overtake the console again.
Finally, the above example is never going to happen, simply because console development takes time. When designing a console, the designers need to decide on the hardware they are going to use. However, even if they use the best there is, by the time the console is ready (which likely takes a few years) something better will have come along.
So no, console graphics aren't going to beat PC graphics.
The maximum graphics settings will always be better on PC, but since it takes a high-end PC to get them they will always be more expensive to see as well. Customization options - for graphics and other things - are the greater strength as I see it (and of course the greater variety of game types for PC).
While maintaining the same hardware, console developers get more intimate with that hardware over time, allowing for better graphics over time on consoles as well (case in point, PS2 launch games vs. God of War II). But it'll never reach the maximum settings of a brand new gaming PC at any one time.
With something like Uncharted 2 out, I don't really feel it's any problem. My (3 year old) then state-of-the-art gaming PC can't provide graphics of that quality, and upgrading it so it could would cost the price of a PS3 in itself. Taking advantage of that continuous edge is going to be beyond the economic abilities of most gamers, I fear.
While maintaining the same hardware, console developers get more intimate with that hardware over time, allowing for better graphics over time on consoles as well (case in point, PS2 launch games vs. God of War II). But it'll never reach the maximum settings of a brand new gaming PC at any one time.
With something like Uncharted 2 out, I don't really feel it's any problem. My (3 year old) then state-of-the-art gaming PC can't provide graphics of that quality, and upgrading it so it could would cost the price of a PS3 in itself. Taking advantage of that continuous edge is going to be beyond the economic abilities of most gamers, I fear.
No, I don't think consoles will ever overtake, because consoles are in the market for years before they get an upgrade. With the PC it is always changing and a PC can be easily modded.
that's what I meant.
tghm1801 said:
that's what I meant.
no they will not cause there are grapic card comeing out the fucking wazoo for the PC
while the console have new consoles coming out ever like 1,1/2 year or so
so NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
^learned that in buisness class sry had to XD^
while the console have new consoles coming out ever like 1,1/2 year or so
so NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
^learned that in buisness class sry had to XD^
It doesn't matter that the graphics are made on a PC, when working with 3d, your viewport (where you do most stuff) doesn't display rendered models anyways, you won't even see advanced textures, correct lighting.
Most gaem models are made pretty low poly, and then use normals maps (a kind of texture that deforms the object when rendered, without alterig the geometry, hence making lighter models look way more detaield than their actual geometry)
Besides computers can make graphics thats years ahead of what you can put in a game anyways, like movie graphics, so the graphics that can be made isn't limited to what can be run inside a computer game, where it has to render in real-time.
Movies like Avatar (say what you want about puchahontas, but the visualswere amazing) are made on computers, and it'll still be years before you can put that kind of graphics into game anyways.
It's just a matter of prioritizing how heavy hardware you put in a console, but then again, if you use the state of teh art hardware in your console, before it's finished, better hardware will have come out, and computers have the, if rather pricy, dvantage of beeing continually upgraded, as often as new hardware comes out.
So basicly, while nothing is holding consoles back from beeig as powerfull as pc's (and most peoples PC's are not i league with teh PS3 anyways) unless you get the possibillity to stuffnew hardware into your console all the time, there'll always b a freashly updated PC with the shiniest of tshiny hardware thats more powerfull.
TLDR: theoretically, ye. practically, no.
Most gaem models are made pretty low poly, and then use normals maps (a kind of texture that deforms the object when rendered, without alterig the geometry, hence making lighter models look way more detaield than their actual geometry)
Besides computers can make graphics thats years ahead of what you can put in a game anyways, like movie graphics, so the graphics that can be made isn't limited to what can be run inside a computer game, where it has to render in real-time.
Movies like Avatar (say what you want about puchahontas, but the visualswere amazing) are made on computers, and it'll still be years before you can put that kind of graphics into game anyways.
It's just a matter of prioritizing how heavy hardware you put in a console, but then again, if you use the state of teh art hardware in your console, before it's finished, better hardware will have come out, and computers have the, if rather pricy, dvantage of beeing continually upgraded, as often as new hardware comes out.
So basicly, while nothing is holding consoles back from beeig as powerfull as pc's (and most peoples PC's are not i league with teh PS3 anyways) unless you get the possibillity to stuffnew hardware into your console all the time, there'll always b a freashly updated PC with the shiniest of tshiny hardware thats more powerfull.
TLDR: theoretically, ye. practically, no.
That would be called "emulators"Hyper-space said:
That would effectively get rid of the sloppy corprate machine that feeds off of our money.... as if Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft are ever going to do that.
Sega refuses to allow people to use Bleem, and nintendo highly reccomends that you don't download emulators for forgotten or hard to acquire NES games uness you own the cartrige, or paid them on their Wii Shopping network
I do love me some emulators. Crash Bandicoot: Warped at 1680x1050 with 4xAA? Yes please!Wael Kash said: