Will console graphics ever beat PC graphics?

[Andy of Comix Inc]

They love doing that, don't they.

But the whole question is silly - an XBox 360 is $150, which means that some RAM and a couple of coolers for a gaming PC will set you back more than that. A seriously powerful rig now costs as much as a PS3, a 3D LED HDTV, and a bunch of games put together. Yeah, with $2,500, you can make Crysis look as good as that, but is it worth it?

To play games?

PCs evolve, sure, but a new graphics card costs you more than a console, so that argument is moot. and come on now, how many people have a top-tier triple SLI running alongside a three years old CPU? Thought so.

The thing is, the number of people buying über-powered, nitrogen-cooled, megabucks desktop PCs is on the wane. Laptops continue to increase market share, because for 99.5% of the stuff that people do, an $800 laptop is totally sufficient. And a PS3 can easily compete with that.

Furthermore, it's funny how it's precisely the same people who spend thousands of dollars on a gaming system so they can brag about how much better everything looks who only actually buy 10% of their games. So potentially, sure, a PC will always be more powerful than any console.

The question is when people will stop programming games (or optimising graphics) for the handful of pirating, faux-élitist people out there.

I'm genuinely STAGGERED by the ignorance in this post. Everything you just said is a tired stereotype.

As has been said for years now, $600-700 will get you a PC that blows any console out of the water, and has more varied uses as well.

Secondly, I don't know a single person who buys "über-powered, nitrogen-cooled, megabucks desktop PCs," as that's an extremely small percentage of the PC gamers. Chances are, those people are either filthy rich, a hobbyist, or professional gaming is their actual job.

Third, your assumption that basically all PC gamers are filthy pirates. Bull. Fucking. Shit. Piracy is a problem, and it's more prevalent on PC than any other platform, I will not deny that. But you're still talking out of your ass. Xbox 360 piracy is rampant, Nintendo DS piracy is HORRIFYING. And yet, it's still only the PC that gets the flak for it.

Finally, your last sentence basically lost you any credibility you might have had. You basically think that PC gamers have no right to their platform of choice?

Folks, I believe we have a console elitist here.

A mid-range PC will always cost the same price, regardless of the tech inside at the time. A mid-range PC in 2010, will go for the same < $1000 price tag as a mid-range PC in 2005 - the difference is, while in 2005 you may have got a Pentium 4 machine, nowadays "mid-range" will get you Dual or Quad core, a new Nvidia or ATi card, and 4GB of RAM at least. And most PC developers will optimize their products for the mid-range and below-average stuff.

Crysis was released in 2007; now, in 2010, it's STILL the benchmark in terms of sheer resource usage and processing power. And in 2010, Crysis will run on a low-to-mid-range computer. The next Crysis is years off, so in the meantime, a new, good-priced PC, is going to be the best looking gaming machine on the market.

With evolution and new technology, comes cheaper prices.

 

[Kitteh]

Consoles kick the ass of my PC graphics card

 

[bojac6]

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crysis will not only run , but run well on under a thousand dollars (assuming your competent enough to self build).

And are you kidding on piracy all you need is a wrie and an empty cartridge, both very easy to get, to the extent every ds owner i know has at least one ripped game, if not a fair few. Il agree the x360 piracy is more tricky (considering the banhammer of xbox live) but still workable, i know some1 who had been banned 6 times because for him its cheaper to pirate 16 games and then buy a new harddrive at 80 quid (Which it is).

Okay, I'm sure Crysis can run on a cheaper machine, I've never tried. I tend to find, though, that though you bought your machine for under a thousand dollars, after a few years, you've spent more than that on upgrades. I do build and maintain my own, but for the price of a new console, I can get a video card with no other new parts.

As for piracy, I don't know what a wrie is. According to Wikipedia, it's a radio station in Pennsylvania. I have no idea where one would get an empty cartridge and I know nobody with ripped DS games. I know nobody with pirated 360 or PS3 games. You seem connected and to know people who pirate that stuff and good for you, I guess, but that doesn't make it easy. Any idiot can pirate PC games, but you're explaining this to somebody who builds his own PC and I still don't have a clue how I would go about pirating on a console or a handheld.

 

[General_Potatoes]

I'm a console gamer but even i think PCs will always look better but there too damn expensive. A console may not look much better but its cheaper and you can still play the same games on it.

 

[Warped_Ghost]

Well that depends how you look at it. Consoles are cheaper, an xbox probably wont make that type of quality picture but the thing only cost 300$ while that PC is probably 1000$ or more.

*resists the admittedly tempting urge to rage over the stereotype*
*takes deep breath*

Alright, here we go. Yes, an Xbox does an impressive amount for $300, but building an equivalent PC should, if you're savvy, take no more than $500-600 to get a machine that will not only destroy the Xbox on any game out there, but is also capable of much more than just gaming.

1. You don't have to build your own xbox. Thats why I was comparing the xbox to a packaged PC.
2. That is still twice the amount of an xbox and the graphics isn't worth 300 extra bucks to a lot of people.
3. You have to keep on upgrading your PC to run current games. Consoles you just have to have the current gen.

But I will give you the point that PC can do other things than gaming.

 

[internetzealot1]

Yes. At the time of there release, consoles are on the cutting edge. But after that, PC's overtake them.

So really, this is a pointless question. "PC" isn't a standardized system, so you need to clarify which exact PC you are talking about.

Also, graphics. Big whup.

 

[RobCoxxy]

Short answer no.
Long answer noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

 

[e2density]

Nope. People always say "Consoles are far superior to PC's because they are cheaper, Xbox 360's are only $200 now"

Well yeah, because the technology inside of them is 1/4 as good as a gaming PC...

 

[Soviet Steve]

No, the PC isn't locked down to a specific set of specifications, unlike consoles.

You might be able to use the console power more effectively because you know exactly what you have to work with, but the PCs are moving as fast as technology is released, so they will always be ahead.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

They go through planning, development, production then release. Take the PS3 for example, the graphics card in a PS3 was mid to high range workstation card by the time the PS3 was released (Nvidia 7800 GTX).

7800 GTX wasn't a workstation card it was a high end home computer card. It's part of the GeForce line (although noone uses the line name anymore) whereas nVidia's workstation cards are Quadro line.

Workstation cards are also a shitty choice for gaming, too.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

One thing that could hold consoles back would be console manufacturers keeping consoles RAMtarded.

 

[Exort]

Err. Did you get that bit the wrong way round?

No, becuase computer come out first, and console are based on it.

 

[Exort]

Impossible, given the way consoles are designed and released. They go through planning, development, production then release. Take the PS3 for example, the graphics card in a PS3 was mid to high range workstation card by the time the PS3 was released (Nvidia 7800 GTX). Simply can't happen, PC always has something better just released or coming down the pipe.

Any nvidia card with GTX means mid-high (more toward the high) end gaming graphic card.

 

[sanguinator]

i didnt know there was a difference but i dont really care since the console graphics are still amazing