Will Half Life 2 episode 3/ Half Life 3 become the next Duke Nukem Forever?

[Simeon Ivanov]

I think Diablo 3 is the current Duke Nukem Forever. Somehow I don't believe Valve will screw it up, since most of their games are really, really good (and take forever to come out ... oh ... wait!)

 

[cricketlenny]

Valve has actually been releasing amazing things constantly, and the only reason for Episode 3's delay is that they are developing the Source 2 engine. Its just a rumor, but it sounds like a darn good reason to keep a game from us this long.

 

[Jegsimmons]

No, because Valve has yet to release a bad game, so there is no evidence that they will fuck up Half Like 3.

But if you think of it, the amount of hype ALREADY surrounding it and it's only just under four years since HL2:E2 will get even bigger, and they'll never live up to those expectations.


Plus it'll probably only be like 8 hours long.

if Portal has taught us anything is that a few hours of Gold is better than 12-15 hours of rusty bronze.

 

[Warforger]

So we all know at this point that Duke Nukem Forever took 14 years to finally see a release date, and everyone hated it. After playing it and agree that it sucks, I started to think about other games that are taking a long time to make, and that a lot of people are waiting for, and then it came to me, Half Life 2 episode 3/ Half Life 3 (take your pick). Do you think it will end up Duke Nukem?

The difference though is that 3d realms had brought out nothing, it was working on one game the entire time. Valve on the other hand has pretty much changed the gaming industry at the very least PC gaming, and looking at the episodic releases 2004 Half 2 is released, 2006 Episode 1 and 2007 Episode 2 you may have some point though.

That and fun shooters aren't really coming back, Duke Nukem Forever possibly could've been a fun shooter before Bullet Storm came out but I guess 2K saw the sales of that game (which were pretty bad) which was basically the Duke Nukem of this generation i.e. making fun of stereotypical games and decided to change it to a bland FPS re-imagining of Duke Nukem, that's only speculation though. You could argue that sales figures for the game look good, but that's not taking into account 1. how many of those were returned and 2. if they were able to be returned at all.

 

[ntw3001]

People don't really tend to object to long development times unless the game is actually bad. This being Valve, HL3 will come out pretty polished. It's not like TF2 suffered this kind of backlash.

 

[Xaio30]

For every year, the expectations increase and chance of living up to the expectations drop.
As with Duke, it will reach a point when everyone pretty much knows in beforehand that the game will be a bit disappointing.

 

[maturin]

Maybe, if you can name a single similarity that isn't stupid.

Huge anticipation for a sequal to a game that was not as good as everyone seems to make out.

I've never heard anyone mistake Dukem Nukem for Jehovah.

For every year, the expectations increase and chance of living up to the expectations drop.

Valve's most-anticipated, most-delayed titles have been their biggest critical, popular and financial successes.

 

[Pyro Paul]

DNF was a joke because it had a decade long development cycle for a product that obviously could be made in a fraction of a time by any half way competent studio.

Half-Life 2 (5 year development cycle) Left4Dead (4 year development cycle) and TeamFortress 2 (9 year development cycle) are all games that look and feel like they Needed the length of development time that they where given...

 

[Souplex]

"Will"? That is future tense. "Is" is more accurate.
Half Life 2 started development after the release of Half Life 1. It has now been 13 years, and it still hasn't been finished, instead being released as episodes.
It is already the next Duke Nukem: Forever.
In terms of quality, the parts that have been released are already on par with Duke Nukem: Forever.

 

[cookyy2k]

Maybe, if you can name a single similarity that isn't stupid.

Huge anticipation for a sequal to a game that was not as good as everyone seems to make out.

I've never heard anyone mistake Dukem Nukem for Jehovah.

For every year, the expectations increase and chance of living up to the expectations drop.

Valve's most-anticipated, most-delayed titles have been their biggest critical, popular and financial successes.

And how did I make this mistake? I said huge anticipaition which their wasand that the origionals were not as god as everyone says the are which they arn't. I never said duke nukem was good, infact I said the origionals weren't as good as everyone says.

 

[Crazy Zaul]

I will take just as long, but be good.

 

[Chri625w]

You know what? i liked DNF. There i said it. It was a good game if you think about what it went through. It was fun. It have Duke nukems sexist humour and his one-liners. It was a game worth playing.
Sure it sucked that he couldnt have all the weapons, but hey it wasnt the same company that released the first games. So please quit your bitching.


OT: i't will probably not be 14 years but i will still wait for it... to be sold cheap...

 

[Robert Ewing]

Episode 3 will most likely have the time aspect of duke nukem forever. And will no doubt have the same amount of hype. I also think that it won't live up to the hype that will surround it. BUT, I do not believe it will suck like Nukem did. Valve has yet to make a bad game, and with the Half Life formula, it may feel a tad dated, and the visuals won't be as ground breaking (or maybe they will.) But it will still be an awesome game to play.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

No.
The problem with Duke wasn't the hype - the problem was that it sucked, or so I hear. I heard a couple of times that you could clearly see it take different directions as time went on, and seemed very antiquated overall.

If Half Life took that long, knowing Valve, they'd say, "Alright, time to get this done. Scrap the gameplay we've made so far, and make this shit correctly." They have NO issue pushing back dates to make sure their games are done right.

 

[OManoghue]

It might take 100 years to make, but it won't be a salty bag of dicks like Duke Nukem.

 

[NightlyNews]

No, because Valve has yet to release a bad game, so there is no evidence that they will fuck up Half Like 3.

But if you think of it, the amount of hype ALREADY surrounding it and it's only just under four years since HL2:E2 will get even bigger, and they'll never live up to those expectations.


Plus it'll probably only be like 8 hours long.

What is up with people and "only 8 hours long". I have never played a shooter that was longer than 8 hours that wasn't padded to shit.

I posit it's next to impossible to make an fps longer than 10 hours that isn't absolute shit. If you want a game to last 50 hours then go play an rpg.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

So we all know at this point that Duke Nukem Forever took 14 years to finally see a release date, and everyone hated it. After playing it and agree that it sucks, I started to think about other games that are taking a long time to make, and that a lot of people are waiting for, and then it came to me, Half Life 2 episode 3/ Half Life 3 (take your pick). Do you think it will end up Duke Nukem?

Yes, just because you didn't like it means it sucked and that everyone hated it.

 

[Jfswift]

I think at this point, no matter how good it is, it'll still not meet my expectations.

Edit: It's kind of like (and forgive me for the rough analogy) with Stephen King and how he eventually did finish his Dark Tower book series. To be honest I would have been happy if he had just left it alone after book 4. The next three books, although interesting, didn't have the same feel (although oddly enough the very last page of the last book had an okay ending I thought, but that's a discussion for another time).

 

[ServebotFrank]

No, because Valve has yet to release a bad game, so there is no evidence that they will fuck up Half Like 3.

But if you think of it, the amount of hype ALREADY surrounding it and it's only just under four years since HL2:E2 will get even bigger, and they'll never live up to those expectations.


Plus it'll probably only be like 8 hours long.

I would be very shocked if Episode 3 was close to 8 hours. You forget that it's an episode. This means shorter gameplay, lower price, and released more frequently which Valve seems to struggle on the last bit. With the other games being 6 hours that would make the games about 18 hours all together.

You forget that Portal 2 had enormous hype and was awesome.

 

[Varanfan9]

No. The reason it takes a long time for Valve to release a game is because they will not release one unless it is perfect unlike DNF which had development issues that made it take forever.
And hey DNF was not bad.