Woman robs man on side of road, Two "samaritans" help her because she's a woman

[Eri]

It's not sexism to assume the man started it because statistics say most violent crime is done by men.

'Girlfriend mode' is sexism even though the statistics say that most gamers are men and the girlfriends/wives don't play games or suck at them.

Brilliant.

Hahahaha. +1 to you sir. Wish I had thought of that sooner.

 

[CentralScrtnzr]

Events like this harden the hearts of men against feeling any sympathy or compassion towards women of any variety. I actually hope these sorts of phenomena occur even more frequently, until women find themselves in the position of being no longer assured the assistance of male agency.

Truthfully, men play just as large a role in the subjugation of men as do women. I would argue they actually play a larger role. This is just another good example.

 

[Burst6]

Ok i admit, if i saw it i would probably restrain the man first too. It's pre-wired in me by society and perhaps nature to be more sympathetic towards women, but when i see the woman running away after i help her, i would chase her down and stop her. Didn't they find it suspicious at all that the woman would just dash off instead of waiting around for the police to come and take the guy away so that she would know that she was safe?


Yes, this is sexist. There's no way it isn't. It doesn't matter what the statistics are, it's sexist. I tend to look at sexism towards men less than sexism towards women because
1) women often get it worse
2) the sexism towards men is directly linked with an aspect of sexism towards women, so aiming for the feminist problem will fix the male sexism as well.
but what i hate is that some people here are claiming that this isn't a problem. Of course it's a problem. It doesn't matter if women have it worse in general, you do not cancel out one type of sexism with another. The best thing you can do in this situation is acknowledge that women can do bad things too and try to keep a more equal mind if this situation ever comes up to you. Don't make the same mistake the two people who helped did under the excuse of statistics, because it is sexist.

At least the guy has proof that he's in the right. That's good.

 

[Lyri]

Hold the door open because I have a vagina, but not for him because he doesn't? I will not have it!

Being chivalrous is supposed to be gender specific though.

Duties to women: this is probably the most familiar aspect of chivalry. This would contain what is often called courtly love, the idea that the knight is to serve a lady, and after her all other ladies. Most especially in this category is a general gentleness and graciousness to all women.

I always wondered what kind of things they do between issues D:

Rule 34 has all the answers and more for you buddy.

This is patently false. As well as nothing I posted was factually wrong. People read into it what they want to read into it. And it's ironically a bit of a good example. This guy thought it out.

This is what happens when people assume things

That's true nothing you wrote was false but it was vague at best.
Also I'm not sure how we're being sexist by assuming it was two guys in a car and not a male and female, that is absurd.

 

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Statistics say that [women suck at games].

Prove it. I'm calling you on it. Back up what you just said and prove, with sources and research, that "women suck at video games."

Try. It'll make my day

Where did I say women sucked at video games?

 

[Fappy]

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Rule 34 can be a huge son of a *****. One time I looked up April O'Neil on Google with safe search on and the first image to pop up was her, tied to a chair, being raped by the Ninja Turtles D:

 

[Eri]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans, just that this is what happens when people assume things. They end up being wrong sometimes and less than good results occur. Mind you, I'm not saying it wasn't either, just that I never claimed one way or the other.

 

[The Almighty Aardvark]

It's not sexism to assume the man started it because statistics say most violent crime is done by men.

'Girlfriend mode' is sexism even though the statistics say that most gamers are men and the girlfriends/wives don't play games or suck at them.

Brilliant.

This is actually a really good point.

I completely forgot to touch on how we shouldn't make generalizations on people based on statistics, but this is apt enough of a comparison. Not 100% applicable to this article necessarily, since I will agree that it did look like the guy was the aggressor, but it does definitely apply to people who are saying it's fine to assume that the guy is in the wrong because of statistics.

OT: Also forgot to respond to the actual article. I think that the two people in the article made the right decision (ultimately wrong, but right choice given context). Since they didn't know what was happening all they saw was a fight and they were trying to stop the person who was initiating it. I really wouldn't call sexism on this one.

 

[Gitty101]

Hoo boy, thought I was done with Plainfield for a while. Recently read about one of the ex-residents Ed Gein. Freaky stuff.

OT: This does not surprise me in the slightest. As mentioned by others in this thread, the problems facing men are often overlooked and ignored. It's just the way society is at the moment.

 

[peruvianskys]

There's a difference between treating someone's pain like it's nothing and not acknowledging that someone else has it worse around every turn. There's always someone who has a worse problem than you, that doesn't mean that whatever your problem is shouldn't be recognized.

Then these threads need to stop trading in the "SEE MEN HAVE IT BAD TOO" approach that has been the hallmark of responses here.

And please stop generalizing. In your first sentence you are treating all men as a collective that always underestimates and ignores female gender issues. Or at the very least you are blaming the entire gender for what some members of it do. As an example, I DON'T belittle the problems that women have, there's a very clear problem with how they're treated. Simultaneously, I recognize that there are also problems with how men are treated by society. Even if it's not comparable (I'm not going to even touch the subject of whether or not it is) that doesn't change the fact that there are still problems, and pointing to a group that you think has it worse does nothing to help that.

I'm not blaming the whole gender (of which I am a member) but I am blaming those of my gender who refuse to honestly acknowledge their privilege.

Also, "have it better off in every social, political and economic situation"?. While you could easily argue most, saying all is just absurd.

Okay, fine, the vast majority.

I'm just going to come out and ask you what you feel your accomplishing by further victimizing women.

First, it has nothing to do with the original post in the thread. Second, by sitting there and shouting that men cannot possibly understand the level of victimization that women do, you're undermining the empowerment movement that marks feminism.

Women can be as empowered as they want, but they'll still get raped if men don't stop raping them. I'm not trying to turn all women into victims, I'm just trying to make it clear that rape is a male problem because men do the raping. Female empowerment is important I support it.

Third, I'm confused, are you a woman or a man telling other men to shut up about how terrible things are for women? If you're a woman, then you do have the right to speak about it, of course, but if you're a man saying what it is your saying you're sort of speaking in a hypocritical manner.

I'm a man, a manly man, a proud man. It's not hypocritical at all. I am saying that men do a lot of terrible things and then even more men seem incapable of understanding that they don't have it as bad as most women do. I'm perfectly within my "rights" to criticize members of my own gender for being ignorant and complacent.

And to answer your question: Yes, I was in an abusive relationship, and yes, I am a male, and yes, it was the woman who was abusive.

My condolences. Abuse is always terrible.

I've not read a more ridiculous exaggeration since I've posted here.

What country do you live in that women are subject to violence, harassment, and exploitation on a daily basis? Not in any stable, civilized country, that is certain.

A world where between 20%-30% of women will be raped in their lifetimes, where over 85% of women report sexual harassment on a monthly basis, and where women continue to be economically disadvantaged, I think that qualifies perfectly as "violence, harassment, and exploitation."

Your statement embodies what is wrong with the feminist community. Not the entire community, just the crazy extremists. I can only assume that your views are biased based on personal experience, in which case I am sorry for you.

My views are based on personal experience, mainly seeing many of my female friends endure abuse, harassment, sexual intimidation, and violence.

 

[Dags90]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans, just that this is what happens when people assume things. They end up being wrong sometimes and less than good results occur.

And sometimes they're correct and awesome results occur. We can't be the Ents from the LOTR who take hundreds of years to carefully consider whether or not we want Wendy's or McDonald's.

 

[Eri]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans.

"I dunno what else to say really, this all happened because they were being sexist towards men. " - You. In the OP. In this thread.

lolol

Once again, you've taken my words the wrong way. Purposely this time. You know damn well what I meant, Because you're the one who brought up what I was quoting.

 

[sethisjimmy]

This isn't sexism. The man was obviously chasing after her to get his money back, and from their point of view, it looked like she was fleeing because he was attacking her. To anyone it would just look like one person is attacking another, and because they don't know the reasoning behind it, they tried to intervene. It sucks that this was a robbery, but it's not sexism, the sexes could be reversed and still people would have let the defending person go, because if someone is not fighting and is just defending, it looks as if they are innocent.

This just you trying to infer something that wasn't there in the first place to cause controversy.

 

[Fappy]

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I never claimed sexism about the two samaritans, just that this is what happens when people assume things. They end up being wrong sometimes and less than good results occur.

And sometimes they're correct and awesome results occur. We can't be the Ents from the LOTR who take hundreds of years to carefully consider whether or not we want Wendy's or McDonald's.

Good thing Wendy's is open late D:

 

[OldNewNewOld]

I'd pick a man to be the aggressor over a woman any day of the week. Nothing to do with sexism, but men are far, far, far more likely to commit an aggressive crime than women are. Just how our hormones and brains work *shrug*

Generalizing all men into one group and saying how they are always more likely to be a criminal.
Not sexist.

Do you see anything wrong with your post?

I'm not a sexist, but I think that women belong in the kitchen because they are more likely to cook better.