Maybe a new sub-forum for just Jonluw and Daystar Clarion's threads?GeneralTwinkle said:There should be a section of the site devoted to Jonluw's questions, it happens so regularly it's basically a feature like extra punctuation at this point.
I'm well aware that only very few women will settle for nothing less than a demigod, my point wasn't about that. Only the most vain of men will remove their clothing specifically to entice women (which is what I'd define 'flaunting' as). I don't think women find men's chests any more attractive than men find women's legs or midriff, and we seem to be content to have those on display.Dags90 said:I don't think there's a large gender disparity in fitness in either the U.S. or the U.K. Women are just as out of shape as men are in both places. Also, if you think women only want to see perfectly sculpted chests of marble, studies show you're probably overestimating what they find attractive.[footnote]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18089177[/footnote]Spineyguy said:I'm not sure that topless men are really 'flaunting' anything. Perhaps it's different in America but here in the UK the majority of men have nothing to be particularly proud of when it comes to the chest area. Mind you, it's true that for 363 days of the year we haven't the weather to warrant a bare chest.
I'm sure being topless is legal in many countries. Women breast-feed in public quite frequently now and to my knowledge there haven't been too many arrests. But if we're talking about boobs being a social taboo then it's certainly still the case.
Legality is the first part of it. It's not until sometime after it's become legal that something can become normalized, most of the "topfreedom" laws are relatively new in North America.
I don't care about that, I just dislike censorship in general. People won't just avoid looking at something offensive they'll demand it gets covered up and removed when they could easily just not look at it.Dags90 said:I don't think there's a large gender disparity in fitness in either the U.S. or the U.K. Women are just as out of shape as men are in both places. Also, if you think women only want to see perfectly sculpted chests of marble, studies show you're probably overestimating what they find attractive.[footnote]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18089177[/footnote]Spineyguy said:I'm not sure that topless men are really 'flaunting' anything. Perhaps it's different in America but here in the UK the majority of men have nothing to be particularly proud of when it comes to the chest area. Mind you, it's true that for 363 days of the year we haven't the weather to warrant a bare chest.
I'm sure being topless is legal in many countries. Women breast-feed in public quite frequently now and to my knowledge there haven't been too many arrests. But if we're talking about boobs being a social taboo then it's certainly still the case.
Legality is the first part of it. It's not until sometime after it's become legal that something can become normalized, most of the "topfreedom" laws are relatively new in North America.
Dags90 said:Yeah... I'm from the US midwest, and I'd rather not see most of the people around there topless. Men or women.Spineyguy said:I'm not sure that topless men are really 'flaunting' anything. Perhaps it's different in America but here in the UK the majority of men have nothing to be particularly proud of when it comes to the chest area. Mind you, it's true that for 363 days of the year we haven't the weather to warrant a bare chest.
I'm of the particular belief that if you're going to shape it up so nicely with clothing, then I'm going to partake of its magnificence. Whether it be a particularly well shaped rump in yoga pants, or a wonderful cleavage pushed just enough out from that too-small shirt, I'm gonna look. At least once, twice if it was enjoyable. Staring, not so much, but I'm not going to purposely look away either.Spineyguy said:Aside from anything else, a man who's caught staring at breasts is in for an awful time, regardless of whether or not they were 'on display', as it were. It's quite funny to watch what happens when a woman in a low-cut top meets a room full of men, suddenly the skirting-boards and light-fittings become incredibly interesting.
It is to teach restraint at such an impressionable age. To build both an immunity and an appreciation.Jonluw said:So why, then, are such massive efforts being exerted to keep children protected from taking part in the wonders of breasts?
Wish I had someone to tell me off for staring, as it is I just stay fixated until I'm spotted and immediately lose any chance I may have had with any girl in a 5 mile radius.IzisviAziria said:I'm of the particular belief that if you're going to shape it up so nicely with clothing, then I'm going to partake of its magnificence. Whether it be a particularly well shaped rump in yoga pants, or a wonderful cleavage pushed just enough out from that too-small shirt, I'm gonna look. At least once, twice if it was enjoyable. Staring, not so much, but I'm not going to purposely look away either.Spineyguy said:Aside from anything else, a man who's caught staring at breasts is in for an awful time, regardless of whether or not they were 'on display', as it were. It's quite funny to watch what happens when a woman in a low-cut top meets a room full of men, suddenly the skirting-boards and light-fittings become incredibly interesting.
And I happen to be a lucky enough fellow that my lovely girlfriend feels the same way about it. So when done in public, even with my ladyfriend along, I'm safe. It's amazing how much more appealing your woman is when she's secure enough to let that happen.
Truly feel bad for the rest of the male population with the stuffy, "DON'T LOOK AT HER YOU PERVERT" significant others.
The timing could hardly have been better though:Matthew94 said:Yeah, this is just odd.GethBall said:Urmmm.... you make some truly strange threads.
I get he likes boobs, good for him.
Yup, quoted the wrong person.theultimateend said:Yes. Because I do see them all the time and I like them lots and lotsJonluw said:do you think you would find breats as alluring is you saw them all the time?.
Sorry if I quoted the wrong person, I snipped it from someone quoting the quote >_>.
oh crap, he planned it!!Thaliur said:The timing could hardly have been better though:Matthew94 said:Yeah, this is just odd.GethBall said:Urmmm.... you make some truly strange threads.
I get he likes boobs, good for him.
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I am no such thing, and frankly I find your statement offensive.BluebellForest said:It's probably just the way I've been brought up, but the OP sounds like a terrible pervert...
That...BRex21 said:Just now? No. There is no way you just now got on a list.Jonluw said:I ended up on some sort of watchlist right now, didn't I?
Hah! Awesome.Thaliur said:The timing could hardly have been better though:
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