World of Warcraft: Why is it hated by so many gamers?

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Faeanor

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GothmogII said:
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Anyway. I don't see why you (the OP) cares so much about why its hated. If you enjoy the game then good for you, if someone doesn't like it well good for them.
Well, i don't mind if someone has played the game and decides it's a bad game or anything like that, that's their decision and their opinion. What does annoy me is the people who insult players of WoW and other MMORPGs when they have never even played one. And yes, the RP servers suck. It's no different to any other online game, it's just got the reputation for Nerdiness because of the RP servers.
Ahem. You are wrong about RP servers. Those are the best servers on WoW because of the RP policies. You won't see someone named xxxdickfacexxx running around because you can flag them for renaming and the GMs will handle it. Good luck doing that on a regular server. They also have a stigma so most players avoid (yes, I'm talking about the stupid ones that no-one wants). You still find some heavy RPers, but they can be avoided without much effort.

But WoW really sucks now. The game wasn't that hard to begin with, but Blizzard won't be satisfied until every class is "on a 4 button spell rotation." I wanted to rip out their balls when I heard that.
Forgive my ignorance...but why would want to -avoid- heavy RP'ers on an RP server? Unless the word heavy has taken on some negative connotation in connection with RP'ers since last I checked...

Then again...isn't that like going on to a PvP server and pointedly not participating in PvP? Sure...whatever floats your orc and all that...but why would you want to?
Because a large portion of players also believe this. I can avoid a lot of stupid players by picking an RP realm that way. And I don't mind RPers, I just don't like to join in that much. So I guess I'm not avoiding them as much as I am living in their shadow to avoid other people. And originally the only reason I started playing on an RP server was because my friend went there.
 

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WoW is like D&D, and better then Runescape. There you go. Three F-ing time consuming games. I am ashamed of the time I spent on Halo 3 though, THAT is an addicting game.
 

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Only two things I had a problem with.

Dangernick42 said:
-The gameplay: Walk up to this, rightclick. Spam 1. Okay, do that again. This is levels 1-80 aside from the random gimmick quests. If you're a ranged class, leftclick something, get in range, 2222222222222222222222 until it dies, and then repeat. THAT IS THE WHOLE COMBAT SYSTEM. There is no skill, there is no aiming. It is gear, and if you know what a "rotation" is, later on (read: summon water elemental, frostboltx99).
This is any MMORPG.

Dangernick42 said:
~Racials: If they didn't let people use racials in arena, I'd be fine with it. The game is stupid imbalanced as is. NE rogues got another level of stealth, Tauren ANYTHING got warstomp (reason I lost the 2100 game), Orcs Warriors basically got two death wishes, and what the hell? Dwarves get stoneform and TREASURE FINDING. HELL YES. Oh, and undead get -another- fear break, and humans get a reputation gain. Gnomes get another PvP trinket on a 1:30 cooldown. That is stupid powerful.
Will of the Forsaken: Removes any Charm, Fear and Sleep effect. Since only 3 classes can fear another player (Priest, Warrior, Warlock) and since the only class with a Charm is Warlock with a succubus out, AND no one can sleep Humanoids, I don't see how this is a "free break".

How does Treasure Finding or Diplomacy help in an arena? And how come you mentioned Diplomacy and not Perception (yes double Human Rogue beat any other combo because they could see stealthies first and 'cause double blind/sap/vanish was pretty OP at the time) or Every Man for Himself: Removes all movement impairing effects and all effects which cause loss of control of your character?
You quoted me, not dangernick.

Anyway.

1: That is not entertaining or enticing gameplay. That should not be how MMO games are, it is not fun or exciting. Planetside is an MMO'rpg' , is it not? It doesn't work that way.

2: I said FEAR BREAK, not free break, because it is a fear break. And you should not look at it as "three classes." You should look at it as Powerful combos? Warrior/druid, Priest/rogue...And it helps against these powerful combos in 2s. 3s, RMP, for example, was popular, and it helped against that.

When I played, Every Man for Himself wasn't there. I forgot about Perception. It was overpowered. They recently changed that too. Besides, if you wanna talk about perception, that's only helpful against TWO classes (unless you count mage invisibility), and by your measurement of effectiveness, is even less useful.

Every Man for Himself just lets you equip another trinket. It doesn't stack with your PvP trinket. So you have the option of a little more burst or survivability...But you'll be stuck in the second stun or a fear either way.

Anyway, Humans have that, which is arguably good. Perception was nerfed and they got that instead. Dwarves have stoneform. That helps them against a few melee classes (extra armor oh boy), and rogues because of bleeds/poisons. That's about it, at the time, anyway. Draenei are worthless. Gift of the Naaru (is?) was a total joke. Nightelves had shadowmeld, which was fine for druids to get a little extra free drinking, but it really depended on your play-style. Gnomes have a great racial, and that's it for the Alliance. Overall mediocrity.

Horde, the only races with bad racials are trolls, really, and even they have relatively alright racials. Bloodelves have an extra silence, a ranged "+combat" move (mana tap stopping my druid drinking). Tauren get extra HP (it was more back then...), and WARSTOMP, something that ought to be removed from the game for being so good. Orcs get their Blood Fury, and a frickin' stun resist (I know it was changed to duration now, but that's still very good). Troll berserking is mediocre, and will of the forsaken is pretty good. Overall, they get better racials.

That's just how it is, alliance has more PvE focused racials, and horde have more PvP focused traits. Which is why I think racials should be disabled during arena... :/
 

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WoW sucks the life out of people, which is why i had to quit. my fiancee was really worried about me, and she threatened to leave me if i didnt quit. so i did, and i feel a lot better getting that burden off my back.
 

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WoW sucks the life out of people, which is why i had to quit. my fiancee was really worried about me, and she threatened to leave me if i didnt quit. so i did, and i feel a lot better getting that burden off my back.
Don't generalise. Yea there are people who are addicted to WoW, but there are also people addicted to craploads of other games, the internet, or anything fictional. Also don't forget that millions of peopl are enjoying the game without having such problems.
Don't blaim the game for your own problems, that's Jack Thompson's job ;-) (did he do anything against WoW already, or just GTA and the likes?)
 

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I like it, I don't need to justify to you guys why I do. Some people just DO like it.
If you don't understand I'm sure as hell not going to hold a grudge and jam reasons to play it down your throat. Don't Like it? A-okay with me bud. As long as Warcraft is fun to me, I'll pay for it. When it isn't I'll stop.


Also I'm freakishly good at moderating my play-addictions, so I'm safe from any 'game committment bullshit' some people make up to justify playing absurd amounts of time. Hell nothing is addictive to me, I'm weird that way. I dunno how people get addicted to coffee either, I can stop drinking it for weeks whenever I feel like it.
I play Warcraft anywhere from one hour a day to around 5 if it's a day of no work... Some days not at all, because I've gotta go out and do things...

So that 'suck the life out of you' thing is crap, take some mind focus classes or self teach it, to balance your mind. Helped me, dunno if it would help other people but...
 

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Assassinator said:
ToonLink said:
WoW sucks the life out of people, which is why i had to quit. my fiancee was really worried about me, and she threatened to leave me if i didnt quit. so i did, and i feel a lot better getting that burden off my back.
Don't generalise. Yea there are people who are addicted to WoW, but there are also people addicted to craploads of other games, the internet, or anything fictional. Don't blaim the game for your own problems, that's Jack Thompson's job ;-) (did he do anything against WoW already, or just GTA and the likes?)
i am generalizing because WoW has actually killed people.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

it really does suck the life out of people. its more like a job to most people than a game.
 

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I played WOW for a few months. The game is good, one of the best MMO's that I've ever played, but $15 a month? Despite the game being fun(at least for me), I just don't think that it is worth the subscription fee. I would rather play Guild Wars. It isn't as addicting as WOW, but has the huge advantage of requiring no subscription fee once you buy it.
 

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I think when your average Joe thinks of a gamer, they think of the stereotypical WoW player (who sadly do exist) sitting in a dark room eating Wotsits for 20 hours a day, mindlessly clicking and talking with people they've never met in stupid fucking internet-dialect about elves.

It doesn't help our image.
 

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Because most games give you some sense of satisfaction when you play. Stat grinding is lazy game design and charging money to allow people to stat grind is just thievery. And moreover, the people paying a monthly fee to stat grind are lulz.

That's why I hate WoW. Because it's just a stupid concept all around. I'd rather spend that money to physically go out and interact with other people than sit at my computer trying to get my ice mage to level 67 or fucking whatever. It's not a video game, it's like fucking work.
 

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ToonLink said:
i am generalizing because WoW has actually killed people.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

it really does suck the life out of people. its more like a job to most people than a game.
You think that only happens with WoW? Think again. Generalising doesn't work, yea 2 people died, out of 11 million, way to go. Do you hate horses, dogs, cars, planes etc etc as much as well because they killed people as well? I doubt that. Excesses exist everywhere, in WoW, in EVE Online, in Halo 3, éverywhere. WoW is no exception, it's useless to just hate WoW because of that.
CaptainEgypt said:
Because most games give you some sense of satisfaction when you play. Stat grinding is lazy game design and charging money to allow people to stat grind is just thievery. And moreover, the people paying a monthly fee to stat grind are lulz.

That's why I hate WoW. Because it's just a stupid concept all around. I'd rather spend that money to physically go out and interact with other people than sit at my computer trying to get my ice mage to level 67 or fucking whatever. It's not a video game, it's like fucking work.
No, WoW is a game, people can treat it like work, o yes that's very much true. But that's the players fault, not the game. I hate that mentality just as much as you but I still love my time in it, I think it ruins the game and it doesn't do the game itself any right. Lots of my guildmates just rushed to 80, barely paying attention to any of the content, that's just awfull. But don't blaim the game for the crap mentality some players have (yes some, not all).
And as for satisfaction or accomplishment, our first kill on Kael'Thas (that's one epic fight) was PRETTY damned satisfying I can tell ya.
 

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Because it sucks your life away, my boss has 5 accounts and when he gets bored he kills himself so he can re-level up.
Also I can't hate it in fear of being fired.
 

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well when I played the trial version of WoW I started at like 16:00 and ended 21:00 but on reflection I didn't find it fun or satisfying like when I play Oblivion or Fallout 3 or fable II. Instead with WoW I seemed to have just wasted 5 hours of my life in some sort half consciousness doing grind quests.

So that?s why I don't like WoW

Frankly I found EVE better, but that?s almost entirely to do with my love of spaceships and not the gameplay


in other words i don't like any MMOs anymore
 

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Assassinator said:
ToonLink said:
i am generalizing because WoW has actually killed people.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

it really does suck the life out of people. its more like a job to most people than a game.
You think that only happens with WoW? Think again. Generalising doesn't work, yea 2 people died, out of 11 million, way to go. Do you hate horses, dogs, cars, planes etc etc as much as well because they killed people as well? I doubt that. Excesses exist everywhere, in WoW, in EVE Online, in Halo 3, everywhere. WoW is no exception, it's useless to just hate WoW because of that.
didnt say i hated WoW. i just pointed out what it does to people. from first hand experience.
thank you and goodnight.
 

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ToonLink said:
Assassinator said:
ToonLink said:
i am generalizing because WoW has actually killed people.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

it really does suck the life out of people. its more like a job to most people than a game.
You think that only happens with WoW? Think again. Generalising doesn't work, yea 2 people died, out of 11 million, way to go. Do you hate horses, dogs, cars, planes etc etc as much as well because they killed people as well? I doubt that. Excesses exist everywhere, in WoW, in EVE Online, in Halo 3, everywhere. WoW is no exception, it's useless to just hate WoW because of that.
didnt say i hated WoW. i just pointed out what it does to people. from first hand experience.
thank you and goodnight.
Excuse et moi then, it really sounded like that. Anyway, yes, WoW can do that people, but you gotta be honest then: so can an infinite number of other things.