Worst Skyrim Gameplay commentary EVER!

[Vanguard_Ex]

I was wondering until I saw 'Gamespot'. Then it all became clear.

 

[Arina Love]

DRAGON Shouts (words of power sort of dragons battle language) are not magic because it's whole different system. Using them is not tied in with you Magicka(mana), shouts obtained DIFFERENTLY. it's all about researching what you will be talking about it's their job.

I went outside and screamed a lot. Nothing froze solid. Experimentation leads to the conclusion that it's not possible. You see, sound actually dissipates into heat, which means no level of sound or shouting will cause the heating of objects, not the cooling of objects. Certainly not the creation of ice encasement, which itself doesn't seem to follow the properties of sound.

But calling them Dragon Shouts doesn't change the fact that DRAGONS ARE MAGIC.

They aren't stating that the freezing is the result of Magicka. They are stating they are magic. In order to prove that these aren't magic, you need to prove that they are scientifically plausible. Not science=magic.

You are STILL trying to argue magic shouts are not magic. Your argument is STILL invalid.

i'm not arguing that it's not magic i'm arguing it's DIFFERENT system as it's don't tie in with how magic in game USED. IN GAME if it's uses Magicka it's magic if it's not uses it, it's not magic + spells and shouts are obtained differently. person in this video misrepresents magic system and shout system just because thay didn't bother to research OR listen properly because you and clearly hear ice SHOUT and don't see spell in other hand.

 

[Dylan Blackler]

I think he means in the way or not magic like how they said it was apart of the new duel wielding feature, how you equip the magic like a weapon, the shouts you do not. so in this context it is not magic, in real life it would be magic, but alas we are talking about the gameworld's description not real life =P

 

[omicron1]

Zombie chicken.

There is no way this game is going to fail. Not with zombie chickens.

I was worried for a moment about the "ice spell," but as it's a shout instead (and therefore balanced with a long recharge timer), bravo!

 

[minimacker]

*Graphics don't look that impressive compared to games that have come out years ago.

I'm guessing it's because it's on the Xbox 360. I heard the PS3 and PC graphics would be way better.

 

[Dylan Blackler]

oooooohhh yea the zombie thing!! that looks sweet, I wonder if you can do it to other things owww I hope so, I dislike the fact TES games didn't really let you dive into the necromancy art, considering its a big thing in each game.

 

[DracoSuave]

i'm not arguing that it's not magic i'm arguing it's DIFFERENT system as it's don't tie in with how magic in game USED.

Here's a piece of advice.

If the idea you wish to convey is not 'This thing is not an X' then nonironically saying 'This thing is not an X' is the absolute worst way to convey that message. You said 'This is not magic.' Thusly, your presented opinion is that it is not magic.

I never said it wasn't a different magic system. It is. It obviously is. But that's not important to the game trailer nor the journalism involved. What is important is that they are seeing some cool use of some ice magic, and hey, look at what it does. Whether it ties into the spell system or not is immaterial to that reporting.

 

[RagTagBand]

HOW DARE THEY GET THE SACRED TERMINOLOGY WRONG

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS

RABBLE RABBLE

Much noise over nothing.

Bingo.

Nerd rage at its finest.

 

[Arina Love]

i'm not arguing that it's not magic i'm arguing it's DIFFERENT system as it's don't tie in with how magic in game USED.

Here's a piece of advice.

If the idea you wish to convey is not 'This thing is not an X' then nonironically saying 'This thing is not an X' is the absolute worst way to convey that message. You said 'This is not magic.' Thusly, your presented opinion is that it is not magic.

I never said it wasn't a different magic system. It is. It obviously is. But that's not important to the game trailer nor the journalism involved. What is important is that they are seeing some cool use of some ice magic, and hey, look at what it does. Whether it ties into the spell system or not is immaterial to that reporting.

when i said it's not magic i meant it's not magic system, and you tried to tie in with real word i know that ice shouting is not natural so do the dragons but i don't talk about nature of dragons or shouts i talk about basic game mechanics. and it's is relevant because if you going to discuss footage and there is INFORMATION on this footage you must as journalist familiarize yourself with this information to KNOW what you are talking about. IF there where no interview then it was totally fine but when it's there there is NO EXCUSE for that sort of poor job.

 

[UmJammerSully]

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I don't...
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Why? Just...why?

If this is what it takes to become a games journalist I'm pretty much guaranteed a job.

''I haven't seen this before. Tree people?''
Did you even fucking play oblivion?!

Yeah, get over yourself. Not every game journalist has time to play every single game that is released so maybe they haven't played Oblivion.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

Welp.

He wasn't dual weilding anything when they said he was.
The 'magic spell' was a dragon shout. Not a generic frost spell.
I'm pretty sure the tree thing was the new version of the spriggan, not 100% sure it may be a dryad or something.

Those are pretty easy mistakes to make. Except for the dual weild one perhaps. He pretty clearly only had one weapon and no spell equipped.

I thought the video itself wasn't great either. The first minute or so was just a dude being boring and using the same freaking shout over and over again, which really makes the combat look boring.
The new stuff we saw, like resurrecting things and some more varieties of dragon, was good.

Quality ain't great either, but I think you can still tell that the graphics are gonna be sweet.

 

[Arina Love]

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I don't...
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Why? Just...why?

If this is what it takes to become a games journalist I'm pretty much guaranteed a job.

''I haven't seen this before. Tree people?''
Did you even fucking play oblivion?!

Yeah, get over yourself. Not every game journalist has time to play every single game that is released so maybe they haven't played Oblivion.

thing is they don't even have to play game there is plenty very compressed info on net to learn about this stuff. AS well as there is deep information about footage they where talking about interview is 11 minutes long in total how lazy can you be to not watch it. it's basic work ethic to research things that you going to talk about. They did a sloppy job.

 

[natster43]

Eh. Could've been worse, would be about the same quality if I did commentary on the game.

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Oh I was just watching this on youtube. It's not all that bad. Besides, the gameplay itself more than makes up for it

 

[Char-Nobyl]

Can you guys have a look at this video and tell me your thoughts, The gameplay and all is great but listen to what these fools say..

Meh. Seemed fine to me. It sounded like two guys who had either only a casual interest in TES prior to this or no real experience at all. That's fine by me. On the contrary, I'm happy for that: it means Skyrim is appealing to new players.

I wouldn't comment on the Graphics just yet as the video was bad quality. but those two guys i mean wow >.> tree people, calling the shout "magic" , saying it was the duel handing feature. I hope they get strung up and shot =D

Well...yeah. Mate, I'm not gonna lie: I can't begin to count the number of hours I spent with Oblivion (to say nothing of Morrowind), and I normally have a really good memory when it comes to games, but I have no problem admitting that I forgot that they were called 'Spriggan.' They didn't appear all that often to begin with, 'dryad' is a more common name anyway, and the last Elder Scrolls game was five years ago.

Same goes for the Shouts: I instinctively call the fuel-source of magical-seeming ability in games mana even when it has a specific name, because it's what I'm used to. And frankly, I don't blame seemingly new players for calling Shouts 'magic,' especially when I'm quite sure that they are related to magic.

I'm not getting "uppity" about it, I was just curious to what you guys say, if you look at the comments on the Gamespot site, those are terrible sure i personally do not like it (other then the new gameplay footage) but I'm not trying to start a war, I was just curious to see what you all say >.>

I never understand why disagreements always turn into flame-wars, I guess that's the internet =P

Dude...you gleefully said that you "...hope they get strung up and shot." You even added a little smiley face after it. Normally when someone calls for lynching, they aren't the one who complains that things are getting out of hand when people react poorly.

You'll have to explain your point even better, because it seems to me that it's two people who are interested in gaming getting enthusiastic about a game from a series they're not familiar with.

In fact, this is proper game journalism as it has two people who don't have preconceived notions about what an elder scrolls game should be, and looking at it from a neutral, non-fanboy point of view.

Ah, there we go. I'll stand by that statement.

lol it looks like this was the first time they saw it, and they could at least get it right and not call Shouts "Magic" or not make it to obvious that they haven't played the previous like calling them tree people >.> or saying they haven't seen these before.(they where in the previous 2 TES games)

You seem to be the only one who sees this as a problem. Maybe they haven't played previous Elder Scrolls games, and Skyrim is their first experience with it. Even then, they acknowledged Shouts by name, even if they didn't pick up on the rather subtle difference of Shout-use versus regular magic-use being that you can see your character's hand in the latter and not the former.

And what surprised me about your spriggan complaint was that these spriggan look a lot different from previous spriggan. The ones in Oblivion looked like there were still humans underneath the leaves and whatnot, and these new ones look more like the living trees from Shivering Isles poured into a human shape than anything else.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

I not seeing the issue. Yeah, they got a few facts wrong, so what? They weren't all that funny, sure, but neither are most commentators. I don't see what makes them any other personality-less "games journalist". Besides, I don't know what those "tree-people" are called either.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

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I don't...
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Why? Just...why?

If this is what it takes to become a games journalist I'm pretty much guaranteed a job.

''I haven't seen this before. Tree people?''
Did you even fucking play oblivion?!

Yeah, get over yourself. Not every game journalist has time to play every single game that is released so maybe they haven't played Oblivion.

thing is they don't even have to play game there is plenty very compressed info on net to learn about this stuff. AS well as there is deep information about footage they where talking about interview is 11 minutes long in total how lazy can you be to not watch it. it's basic work ethic to research things that you going to talk about. They did a sloppy job.

That's all well and good in theory, but how is this specific instance unreasonable? They didn't remember the name of a dramatically redesigned enemy from a game series whose last installment was five years ago. And that enemy didn't appear all that often, nor was it terribly memorable.

And no, they're not being 'lazy.' They clearly did the legwork on research, and you can see the talking points come up in synch with the video. Just because they improvised lines doesn't make it a bad preview. On the contrary, improv was a key part of it. Did you think they were reading this off cue cards? They make a list of things to remember to talk about, maybe some indicator of when certain scenes in the video will come up, and they deliver it however they choose. Properly done Powerpoint shows work the same way: they don't provide you with a script. They provide you with prompts of what topic to talk about and roughly when in your presentation you should talk about it.

 

[Dylan Blackler]

yea I just always wanted to say that "...hope they get strung up and shot." line, I have no idea why >.<

 

[TheLoneBeet]

This is why they need to bring people who worked on the game in for interviews when showing footage like that. If somebody who actually knew what they were talking about had been commenting on the events taking place it would have been much better. It burns me to think that there are people who take those two guys seriously and will probably think Skyrim isn't any good based on their shitty representation of it.