worst Star Wars movie? (the two trilogys, no weird christmas specials)

[are.you.the.god.its.me.vader]

I remember hearing talk about prequels.

I don't think anything ever became of it though....

...good thing too.

 

[holographicman]

episode 3

everything except the 2 minute wookie battle was terrible

 

[Woodsey]

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1. If it is a force power then he should consult someone who has experience in the matter. He does, good for him. O wait, he totally ignores the advice and does what he wants. This doesn't address your point exactly. It is just a supporting statement to 2.

2. He lets his emotions run him. He is impulsive, impatient, closed-minded, selfish, and (at least somewhat) narcissistic. None of these are qualities of a Jedi. These are qualities of a Sith. If he was a Jedi, it was by name only. If Palpatine used a Jedi mind trick on Anakin, it means Anakin is weak minded which explains a lot actually.

3. I'm not saying his personality needs to be similar. I'm questioning the huge leap between angelic to narcissist. There is no trace of his passed self. It is one thing when you are like that and sheltered. It is a different matter when you are selfless and optimistic when you are a bloody slave. He had no resentment, hatred, or a bad thought toward anyone. Now he has nothing but those feelings. I'm not asking about the change. I'm asking about the degree of the change.

4. Now, I am just arguing this is the worst movie by just using Anakin. There are plenty of reasons if we ignore Anakin that this is the worst movie. The "no" is the final nail in the coffin. Before that it is tolerable as a popcorn movie of you let a few (read: A lot) of plot holes slide. After it, the movie became unwatchable.

5. Basically you are saying Anakin didn't think for himself. He didn't reflect the outcomes or give his actions a thought. He saw his goal and put the blinders on. Again, none of these are qualities of a Jedi. I am pretty sure he was planning to do this all along but just didn't have the means. The only person he trusted was his wife who he tried to kill in the process to save her.

1. The advice he is given is to let her die and accept that this is a good thing - it's perfectly acceptable for him to ignore such advice. PLENTY of other Jedi do this stuff in the expanded universe; you'd be surprised how many do things that aren't Jedi-like and the frequency of it all. Being a Jedi doesn't negate your humanity.

2. Again, these are human traits. Other Jedi may deal with such things better, but it doesn't mean they're not there. He's also highly loyal and thoughtful of others. We see him rescue Obi-Wan after he kills Dooku, and before they get on to the ship at the start of Episode 3 he wants to help out the clone pilots who aren't doing a very good job. Sure, he has plenty of negative traits, but they're there for good reasons for the most part. When he joins the order he's a lot older than the other children too, so it's harder to embed all the Jedi "stuff". For example, most Jedi can barely remember their families, whereas he obviously remembers his mother. And yes, he is a little narcissistic, but that's hardly surprising given that he's been told he's going to become the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy.

3. I'd still argue that he's had far less exposure to other people, and bringing it back to the Chosen One thing again he's getting a lot of mixed signals from the council about what they're letting him in on; not really helped by the little lies from Palpatine.

4. The "no" is a non-issue. It ruined that scene for you, if you can get past all the issues you have with the film prior to that, then to say it suddenly ruins the rest of the film is ridiculous.

5. Of course he didn't plan to do it all along - the Jedi were about the only thing he had. Palpatine is one of, if not the most powerful Sith ever, his influence plays a major part in it all. And no, Anakin didn't really think for himself in that moment, but he's been told the man that's about to be killed can help him save his wife, and the man about to kill him is a man who shouldn't be killing him. High stress + that stuff = not entirely well thought out situation, not to mention he's only got a few seconds to act AND he tries to talking Windu down before he kills him. He trusted Obi-Wan too, but he now didn't trust the Jedi as a whole. He knows Obi-Wan won't understand, Obi-Wan is antagonistic towards him (obviously), and Anakin things Padmé has set him up. He strangles her out of blind rage, not because he wants to kill her. You see that he's quite happy to see her before he sees Obi-Wan.

 

[Googenstien]

Sadly the whole franchise is shit now.. I loved the original 3 (4,5,6) BEFORE Lucas started to change them all up (Greedo shooting first, odd Jabba scenes, NEW whiny Anakin added in)

Actually the best were the mid 90s VHS releases of the movies in THX, no added shit just the movies in better sound. Now they look like crap and edit alot of classic moments and things out.. EWOK Celebration song!


and here it is since its trying to be removed from history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5XG1nSlxuI

 

[Monshroud]

I have a certain disdane for each of the new Star Wars movies. (Being Episodes I, II and III) Each movie had some terrible things, but each has some redeeming qualities.

Bad Episode 1: Metachlorians (or how ever you spell that.) That's a /thread in my book. Not to mention the whole Anakin creating C3PO and R2D2 even being there. I shouldn't have to even mention Jar-Jar.

Good Episode 1: Darth Maul Vs Obi-Wan. We finally saw what a lightsaber battle should have been.

Bad Episode 2: Hayden's cardboard dialog delivery. Terrible pacing. Yoda... Yes Yoda. The lightsaber fight should not have ended that way. If you are a Jedi Master, you could have just pushed/pulled Anakin out of the way and still had time to finish off Dooku. You didn't need to drop everything to catch the rock...

Good Episode 2: Seeing the creation of the Clone Army that would become Stormtroopers. I might say Jango, but honestly I was a bit disappointed that they didn't do more with him.

Bad Episode 3: How about no one with all this technology realising that Padme was pregnant with twins. I mean the people look surprised. You have space ships and anti-grav and no one did a sonogram? Also, Padme dying, like another poster stated, was BS. Luke was supposed to be taken away, and Padme was supposed to die a few years later.

Good Episode 3: The Creation of Darth Vader. Maybe this is more for the memory, being in the theater and seeing that then the mask gets put on and you hear that first breath. It sent chills down my spine.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents...

 

[Geekosaurus]

hands down, episode 2. i actually liked episode one, but holy shit, this took it to new levels. Just a horrible, horrible movie.

what's your least favorite?

I'm shocked! I think Episode II is the most underrated Star Wars film. The worst has to be Return of the Jedi. It doesn't know where to go after the Sarlac Pit fight, and then you spend hours and hours on Endor. Even Admiral Ackbar's line can't make up for all those Ewoks. Then another Death Star? Really?

 

[12344127]

absolutly I agree. What really made episode 1 for me was the battle at the end and it was EPIC. There was a constent shift between three fights (droids-gungans, droid blockade(anikan piloting) and the epic darth maul vs obi-wan and quigon jin. Not to mention it explains why obiwan said at the end of episode 3 "give up anakin I have the high ground" because when darth maul knocked him into the pit he was able to jumb up grab a lightsaber and slice maul inhalf, he knew anikan couldnt pull off such a stunt. But episode 2's battles were pointless count dooku vs anikan and obiwan sure it explains the missing arm but other than that nothing major happens...count dooku escapes and anikan and obiwan escape. Truthfully even jango fett was pointless because revenge wasnt the reason boba became a bounty hunter. So all in all episode 2 was pointless to say the least

 

[PunkRex]

Episode 3. It really turned Darth Vader from a badass to a really whiny teenager.

Indeed, I like I & II. The clones were interesting and very cool. The big battles in III were still alright but the love story was so forced and bland (how they did this while in space I will never understand). I liked the duel at the end but that was mainly because of Obi Wans bad assery.

 

[zackc3]

im gonna piss of so many people but i don't care really

anyways the movie i hate is the 5 and the 4.....well first its the story ( just because its the original doenst mean its the best thing ever made ) the story is just ...what he hell for the 4th you made a whole movie on saving someone you don't know and you spend 3/4 of the movie into the death star...ok and the 5th i just don't like it or does my family last night we were playing lego star wars and we hated the 5th so much we returned the game cause we finished everything else
so yep you probably stopped after i said the movies i hated i don't care really i said what i wanted to say thanks for the person who read it to the end ( even if you hate me now )

 

[Arsen]

Objectively: Episode One.
Subjectively: Episode Two.

You WANT Episode 2 to be good in every which way. It has every element to be good, but just isn't pulled off correctly.

 

[aaabbbccc63]

can someone please explain to me why episode 1 was so terrible? it had an amazing fight at the end, qui gon jinn was AMAZING, that whole section at the planets core with the giant fish blew my mind, darth maul was a silent bad ass assassin, the young obi wan really did a good job of showing a younger less wise still learning obi wan, and as for memorable moments....... who can really say their hearts didn't skip a beat when darth maul showed off his double bladed lightsaber for the first time? now im not comparing it to the original trilogy and it did have its fails with jar jar and all that woopieeee!!!!!!!! crap and sure, the fact that anakin built c-3po and r2 was already around in the first movie was stupid but you can't seriously lump it in with the AWFUL acting and the way that darth vader was ruined for everyone in 2 and 3 can you? the first time i watched episode 2 in the theaters i was literally embarrassed to be watching it WHENEVER i heard anakin speak. the banter between him and obi wan was just not endearing or funny in any way, and he was such a little ***** man, like wtf?!? whatever, i liked episode 1 and i doubt anyone can argue its even half as bad as episode 2 or 3.

 

[Ectoplasmicz]

3, simply because it makes the most awesome character in the history of everything die pathetically. We will miss you General Grievous.

 

[Toaster Hunter]

Episode 1, but 3 was not far behind. Why does the most badass character in cinematic history have to be turned into an angsty teenager?

 

[arnoldthebird]

Attack of the Clones...I enjoy Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith but Attack of the Clones...it can stay away, no redeeming qualities

 

[Manoose47]

Attack of the Clones.

"I don't like sand. It's coarse, rough, and it gets everywhere. Not like you, you're everything soft and smooth"

That's writing right there.

well played sir

 

[Carnage95]

I will try to keep this short and simple.

Episode 1: Uninteresting and boring
Episode 2: A cringe-fest
Episode 3: Is this some sort of joke?

In conclusion, Attack of the Clones was painful to sit through.