worst Star Wars movie? (the two trilogys, no weird christmas specials)

[Nomanslander]

you're delusion fails as there can not be a 4,5 and 6 without 1,2 and 3.

What are you talking about? For a good 20 years there all we had was 4, 5, and 6. Of course they weren't called that at the time...=/

As for worse SW movie, I'd have to say Phantom Menace, I can somewhat deal with a teenager Anakin since all teenagers are stupid, but damn do I hate bad child actors..><

I prefer Anakin the ungrateful emo brat over Anakin the little pipsqueak that says "Whow" a lot...-_-

Then again, fuck them both and just give me a never unmasked cybernetic mouthbreather Vader any day.

 

[Desert Tiger]

Probably 2 for the prequels and 4 for the originals.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

Episode 2? What the hell are you on about? There are only episodes IV, V and VI.

Thats what I was going to say!!!

 

[David Bray]

hands down, episode 2. i actually liked episode one, but holy shit, this took it to new levels. Just a horrible, horrible movie.

what's your least favorite?

How is this not a poll?

And yeah. 1 is shit but 2 should have learned from it and the fact that it didn't hurts it even more.

Oh man I completely forgot about it. Wow, is there any way to add a poll?

"It's too late...argghhhh"

 

[mushroomyakuza]

Episode One is dull as a brush but, it did have a better sense of the Star Wars universe.

Episode Two was the worst with the "love" story. Vomit.

Episode Three at least had some decent fight scenes, but it still sucks a big one.

 

[Cazza]

IV & III I find are the worst. IV Because I can't stand Luke being like I wanna fight the Empire and III I feel lacked in the ending. The ending needed Vader to be more evil not upset.

 

[crudus]

1. He had the same dreams about his mother - who then died - and it's more an involuntary force power as opposed to just some bad dreams.

2. I disagree that he was borderline evil already. He's troubled and finds himself at odds with the other Jedi at times, but he's still very much a Jedi. As for the Dooku thing, you could argue that he felt it would be better if he were just dead - since only he and Palpatine would know - or even that Palpatine used a bit of force trickery on him when he said "do it" to push him over the edge.

3. That's not odd. He's 23ish in RotS; he's gone through a tiny bit more since he was 8-years-old and (like I've mentioned) he's seen his mother die by now too.

4. As for the "no", if people found it funny then that means the scene didn't go according to plan, not the entire film because of 3 seconds' worth of footage.

5. Oh, and about murdering everyone: when he joined Palpatine he now believed the Jedi were evil and that they couldn't be allowed to continue. He's already seen Mace Windu try to kill Palpatine (hypocritical after the Dooku incident, but he considers Palpatine a friend), and Palpatine's been feeding him lies for years. If you believe a group of people are evil and by killing them you can also help save your wife, then it's hardly an illogical leap.

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1. If it is a force power then he should consult someone who has experience in the matter. He does, good for him. O wait, he totally ignores the advice and does what he wants. This doesn't address your point exactly. It is just a supporting statement to 2.

2. He lets his emotions run him. He is impulsive, impatient, closed-minded, selfish, and (at least somewhat) narcissistic. None of these are qualities of a Jedi. These are qualities of a Sith. If he was a Jedi, it was by name only. If Palpatine used a Jedi mind trick on Anakin, it means Anakin is weak minded which explains a lot actually.

3. I'm not saying his personality needs to be similar. I'm questioning the huge leap between angelic to narcissist. There is no trace of his passed self. It is one thing when you are like that and sheltered. It is a different matter when you are selfless and optimistic when you are a bloody slave. He had no resentment, hatred, or a bad thought toward anyone. Now he has nothing but those feelings. I'm not asking about the change. I'm asking about the degree of the change.

4. Now, I am just arguing this is the worst movie by just using Anakin. There are plenty of reasons if we ignore Anakin that this is the worst movie. The "no" is the final nail in the coffin. Before that it is tolerable as a popcorn movie of you let a few (read: A lot) of plot holes slide. After it, the movie became unwatchable.

5. Basically you are saying Anakin didn't think for himself. He didn't reflect the outcomes or give his actions a thought. He saw his goal and put the blinders on. Again, none of these are qualities of a Jedi. I am pretty sure he was planning to do this all along but just didn't have the means. The only person he trusted was his wife who he tried to kill in the process to save her.

 

[masseyguy911]

Episode 2? Do you mean the Empire Strikes Back? I actually liked that one, thought it was the best...
Seriously though, all the prequel movies I hate, as far as I'm concerned they don't exist.
Why do I think this? Well I could type it all out here... Or you can watch this guy explain it. He does a better job than I would do.
http://www.redlettermedia.com/phantom_menace.html
http://www.redlettermedia.com/clones.html

 

[The Night Shade]

Episode 2 the clone wars the first episode i like it but the second suck the best parts are the action parts and there isn't a lot of action in that movie

 

[Space Spoons]

If I had to choose, I'd go with Attack of the Clones, but I try to find merit in all the films of the prequel trilogy, despite their flaws. You can harp at me all you want about how they were terrible movies, and I'll admit that they're not cinematic masterpieces, but I'm a Star Wars fanboy. Always have been, always will be. To me, the prequel trilogy is great because we finally get to see Ben Kenobi in his formative years, the spry, daring young Jedi Knight we only saw faint glimpses of during A New Hope. What's more, we got to see his master, the man that trained the legend, and his pupil, the man who would later become Darth Vader. It was a real treat, even if the movies were pretty weak compared to IV, V and VI.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I just read the whole thread and realized that I am COMPLETELY alone. I hate, with a passion...

Episode 6. As soon as I got to the scene with the Ewoks, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Seriously? Dancing teddy bear things? Ridiculous.

In all honesty, I didn't see any of the films until about a year ago. I'm 25 now, and never cared to see them. I was a Star Trek dork, and it was my preference. My girlfriend finally sat me down and forced me to watch the Trilogy because she thought I was missing out. I loved Episode 4 and 5, but couldn't get over how much George Lucas took a film made for young adults, then made a much darker sequel made for those same young adults who had grown and matured a little, and then made the final installment to appeal to 6-year-olds. It baffled me.

So, yeah...I hate 6.

 

[Space Spoons]

I just read the whole thread and realized that I am COMPLETELY alone. I hate, with a passion...

Episode 6. As soon as I got to the scene with the Ewoks, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Seriously? Dancing teddy bear things? Ridiculous.

In all honesty, I didn't see any of the films until about a year ago. I'm 25 now, and never cared to see them. I was a Star Trek dork, and it was my preference. My girlfriend finally sat me down and forced me to watch the Trilogy because she thought I was missing out. I loved Episode 4 and 5, but couldn't get over how much George Lucas took a film made for young adults, then made a much darker sequel made for those same young adults who had grown and matured a little, and then made the final installment to appeal to 6-year-olds. It baffled me.

So, yeah...I hate 6.

I think it's generally accepted that Return of the Jedi is about the point where George became more concerned with merchandising and making the movie as "toyetic" as possible. The way I've heard it told, the original script called for a much less chipper, far more realistic ending, with Han Solo being captured and killed sometime in the middle of the movie, Leia finding it difficult to settle into her duties, and Luke wandering off to be a hermit, disillusioned by the whole thing. And, of course, there were no Ewoks in the final battle, and therefore no Ewok party at the end.

 

[Haukur Isleifsson]

Im not saying that its a bad film, i love the original trilogy, but i did think that the lack of a decent lightsaber fight detracted from the original film.

Well the "decent lightsaber fight(s)" in the later 3 films just kinda missed the point. Sure they are cool as hell but they are just a laser-show with acrobatics and choreography. The original once where never about such things. The lightsaber is a symbol, a representation of the force.

Than again it was the same person that came up with both things and it makes it kind of hard to claim to know better than him.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I just read the whole thread and realized that I am COMPLETELY alone. I hate, with a passion...

Episode 6. As soon as I got to the scene with the Ewoks, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Seriously? Dancing teddy bear things? Ridiculous.

In all honesty, I didn't see any of the films until about a year ago. I'm 25 now, and never cared to see them. I was a Star Trek dork, and it was my preference. My girlfriend finally sat me down and forced me to watch the Trilogy because she thought I was missing out. I loved Episode 4 and 5, but couldn't get over how much George Lucas took a film made for young adults, then made a much darker sequel made for those same young adults who had grown and matured a little, and then made the final installment to appeal to 6-year-olds. It baffled me.

So, yeah...I hate 6.

I think it's generally accepted that Return of the Jedi is about the point where George became more concerned with merchandising and making the movie as "toyetic" as possible. The way I've heard it told, the original script called for a much less chipper, far more realistic ending, with Han Solo being captured and killed sometime in the middle of the movie, Leia finding it difficult to settle into her duties, and Luke wandering off to be a hermit, disillusioned by the whole thing. And, of course, there were no Ewoks in the final battle, and therefore no Ewok party at the end.

Wow, I didn't know there was an Ewok party at the end...I never made it that far. I'm sure I'll strap in and endure one day, but I was referring to the very first appearance of them in the forest. That's the point where I couldn't tolerate it. The fact that they're even IN the movie bothers me. I can tolerate Jar Jar more than those things.

I would've preferred Lucas to keep a darker tone.

 

[Kiefer13]

The Star Wars series in order from best to worst (in my opinion):

The Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
Return of the Jedi
Revenge of the Sith
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

The Phantom Menace.

+ Liam Neeson
+ Ray Park

- Jar Jar

Jar Jar can ruin anything.

 

[Space Spoons]

I just read the whole thread and realized that I am COMPLETELY alone. I hate, with a passion...

Episode 6. As soon as I got to the scene with the Ewoks, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Seriously? Dancing teddy bear things? Ridiculous.

In all honesty, I didn't see any of the films until about a year ago. I'm 25 now, and never cared to see them. I was a Star Trek dork, and it was my preference. My girlfriend finally sat me down and forced me to watch the Trilogy because she thought I was missing out. I loved Episode 4 and 5, but couldn't get over how much George Lucas took a film made for young adults, then made a much darker sequel made for those same young adults who had grown and matured a little, and then made the final installment to appeal to 6-year-olds. It baffled me.

So, yeah...I hate 6.

I think it's generally accepted that Return of the Jedi is about the point where George became more concerned with merchandising and making the movie as "toyetic" as possible. The way I've heard it told, the original script called for a much less chipper, far more realistic ending, with Han Solo being captured and killed sometime in the middle of the movie, Leia finding it difficult to settle into her duties, and Luke wandering off to be a hermit, disillusioned by the whole thing. And, of course, there were no Ewoks in the final battle, and therefore no Ewok party at the end.

Wow, I didn't know there was an Ewok party at the end...I never made it that far. I'm sure I'll strap in and endure one day, but I was referring to the very first appearance of them in the forest. That's the point where I couldn't tolerate it. The fact that they're even IN the movie bothers me. I can tolerate Jar Jar more than those things.

I would've preferred Lucas to keep a darker tone.

It's basically exactly what it sounds like, and you really aren't missing anything for never having seen it. I can only guess that the logic involved appealing to little kids, making absolutely sure they'd all be begging for the "Ewok Treehouse Playset" that Christmas.

Yeah, I think it would have been a better ending for the series. Maybe not Han dying, though. As much sense as it would probably make, I still wouldn't want to see him go.

 

[sabercrusader]

Episode 3 is the one I hate the most, since when it came out, people insisted that it was "decent", it was "good", or most heinous of all, it "redeemed the series". BULLSHIT. Fact: the prequels suck. Sure, the third one was a bit darker and had mass murder of children, but it was still a horrible, HORRIBLE movie. And not just compared to the classics, no, the third one (indeed all three prequel movies) stood on its own as shit.

Here's a short list of some complaints I have about the third movie (ignoring the obvious flaws, like terrible story, actors and everpresent CGI which makes the movie look like a cartoon):

- There were like thirty scenes where people get their hands cut off. Seriously, what the fuck? Pretty much every character gets their hands chopped off: Dooku, Grevious (all four), Windu, Vader... which is like the third time in the series for him, poor guy. This is so extreme. But actually, when I think about it, there's hand-chopped-off scenes in pretty much every Star Wars movie. In fact, I counted them last time I watched the original, there's like two or three in both New Hope and Empires, and I know there is atleast one i Jedi. Is George Lucas one of those people with amputation fantasies? I think George Lucas secretly wants to cut of his hands, and is living out his fantasy through his movies.

- R2D2 kicking ass. That's stupid. Not cool, just stupid. Really stupid.

- They fucking retconned Padmes death. This might seem nerdy, but I think it's a big deal. In Return of the Jedi, Luke asks Leia about her mother. Leia said she remembered her, she died young and was often sad. LEIA KNEW HER MOTHER. SHE DID NOT FUCKING DIE AT CHILDBIRTH. Picky? Fuck you, this is inexcusable.


Anyway, fuck the prequels and anyone who likes them. Glory to the orginal trilogy.

I agree with most of what you said, but the R2D2 thing is just a retarded reason to say the prequels sucked, there are very few characters who appear in all 6 movies and R2D2 is one of them, they have to give him ONE awesome part. The other thing with padme dying was kinda picky but it dosen't really ruin it for me.