Hmm maybe that's true in Thailand. But a friend of mine who is a vegetarian went to Japan and she had a really hard time finding food that didn't have meat in it.Ashsaver said:Pure Vegans should consider living in Asia,this continent has the best Vegan food in the world.
I live in Asia,but I'm not converting to full-time pure Vegan anytime soon.
Yes. No. Obviously they are different things. But if the rationale is not to kill living things, that's problematic, because they are alive. They're a part of of the ecosystem and ingesting large quantities of grain is killing those grains. And in eating grains, what are you saying? Well, grains are lesser beings in the world of living things, so because they don't talk or moo, it's totally okay to terminate their lives. All veganism is doing is scaling back the bar of what you consider "lesser creatures". Those who eat meat are okay with the fact that we're slaughtering several species that are less intelligent than us. Vegans set the bar lower to "less intelligent and less interactive than typical animals". There's nothing different about it. Vegans, go big or go home. Clearly you need to go "breatharian" if you want to cause no harm to living things.Cakes said:ITP: There is no difference between a horse and pasta.Kurt Cristal said:So-called "moral" veganism is a big myth. Plants are living things. Micro-organisms are living things. You're eating them.
I'm afraid I share this view.AccursedTheory said:Meat is delicious. Meat is tasty. Meat makes my world go round.
I will NEVER go vegan. if a Doctor told me I'd die if I ate one more strip of bacon, I'd go to the grave with grease on my chin and a smile on my face.
ethics? whats unethical about eating something that's tasty? as long as i like it and it isn't poisonous, i'd consume it. if it's really unhealthy i'll at less of it, but still eat it.SsilverR said:Personally i feel privileged to be in a society that gives me the option to live whatever lifestyle i want, and although i now personally believe that humans may reach a point where everyone has these options and perhaps should reduce or fully stop meat consumption, not only for overall health but also for the sake of overall ethics.
This post is so ridiculous I can hardly take it. Grain isn't conscious, for one thing.Kurt Cristal said:Yes. No. Obviously they are different things. But if the rationale is not to kill living things, that's problematic, because they are alive. They're a part of of the ecosystem and ingesting large quantities of grain is killing those grains. And in eating grains, what are you saying? Well, grains are lesser beings in the world of living things, so because they don't talk or moo, it's totally okay to terminate their lives. All veganism is doing is scaling back the bar of what you consider "lesser creatures". Those who eat meat are okay with the fact that we're slaughtering several species that are less intelligent than us. Vegans set the bar lower to "less intelligent and less interactive than typical animals". There's nothing different about it. Vegans, go big or go home. Clearly you need to go "breatharian" if you want to cause no harm to living things.Cakes said:ITP: There is no difference between a horse and pasta.Kurt Cristal said:So-called "moral" veganism is a big myth. Plants are living things. Micro-organisms are living things. You're eating them.
...Okay, I'm gonna openly admit that half of that was satire but the point is made.
Cakes said:This post is so ridiculous I can hardly take it. Grain isn't conscious, for one thing.Kurt Cristal said:Yes. No. Obviously they are different things. But if the rationale is not to kill living things, that's problematic, because they are alive. They're a part of of the ecosystem and ingesting large quantities of grain is killing those grains. And in eating grains, what are you saying? Well, grains are lesser beings in the world of living things, so because they don't talk or moo, it's totally okay to terminate their lives. All veganism is doing is scaling back the bar of what you consider "lesser creatures". Those who eat meat are okay with the fact that we're slaughtering several species that are less intelligent than us. Vegans set the bar lower to "less intelligent and less interactive than typical animals". There's nothing different about it. Vegans, go big or go home. Clearly you need to go "breatharian" if you want to cause no harm to living things.Cakes said:ITP: There is no difference between a horse and pasta.Kurt Cristal said:So-called "moral" veganism is a big myth. Plants are living things. Micro-organisms are living things. You're eating them.
...Okay, I'm gonna openly admit that half of that was satire but the point is made.
of course he does. he's simply saying that a plant is part of an eco system like a sheep is part of a food chain, vegans are happily killing off parts of eco systems, also micro organisms may not be as sentient as us, but they function in an eco system and are alive, as are plants. Just because you can't think doesn't mean you are not alive.
You realise there is a difference between plants and animals, yes?