Would you still eat meat if you had to kill it yourself?

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KeithA45

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I think it'd be more rewarding but I'd probably eat less meat because of the effort/time, not because of anything like "putting a face to the meat"
 

Samurai Goomba

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Gooble said:
stinkychops said:
Gooble said:
I'm a vegetarian, and even if I was in the wilderness, starving to death, I still wouldn't kill an animal. It seems illogical to me that one animal should die so that another can live. And I've eaten plenty of animals already (was omnivorous up until about 12) so there's no way I could justify it to myself.
Despite the fact that the vegetables you live off, flourish largely from nitrogen of dead animal matter. Hmm, most of the vegetables you eat are (probably sorry if you grow your own), prepared by people who eat meat. Besides whats logic got to do with survival.

I'm not trying to cause an argument but i disagree with you and would like to hear your views.
In regards to plants using nitrogen from dead animal matter-that's a natural process, it would happen if human's didn't exist. And if animals didn't exist.

To people who grow the things I eat, there's not much I can do about that, and my consumption of the produce has no bearing on whether the farmers eat meat or not.

And the logic part-I'm a very logical person. If something doesn't make sense to me, I won't do it. And killing many animals so that I can survive is illogical to me, so I wouldn't do it. I know it makes sense in the context of humans being omnivorous and it would mean me not dying, but I still wouldn't do it.
What about the combine harvesters that kill thousands of small, cute and fuzzy animals (like little field mice) every time they roll across a wheat field or harvest some soy beans? What isn't logical is one group of people thinking they can justify acting superior to another group by virtue of only eating certain kinds of life.

What's "logical" is that mankind lives by consuming life. The closest to alive something is, the healthier it is (if grown/killed naturally.) There is a wealth of medical information bearing out this truth, and an entire diet based around it.

http://www.living-foods.com/faq.html

Here's a hilarious source for that harvester thing:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

And a more serious one:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Story?id=97836&page=1

Oh, and don't praise yourself. It makes you sound like a windbag. Let other people decide whether or not your behavior qualifies you as logical or not. Saying you are doesn't make it so.
 

MoganFreeman

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Yes. The very reason I am not a vegetarian today is that I know I would be able to hunt game myself in order to eat.

That being said, survival is the only reason I would hunt animals. I think sport hunting is wasteful and barbaric.
 

Gooble

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Samurai Goomba said:
Gooble said:
stinkychops said:
Gooble said:
I'm a vegetarian, and even if I was in the wilderness, starving to death, I still wouldn't kill an animal. It seems illogical to me that one animal should die so that another can live. And I've eaten plenty of animals already (was omnivorous up until about 12) so there's no way I could justify it to myself.
Despite the fact that the vegetables you live off, flourish largely from nitrogen of dead animal matter. Hmm, most of the vegetables you eat are (probably sorry if you grow your own), prepared by people who eat meat. Besides whats logic got to do with survival.

I'm not trying to cause an argument but i disagree with you and would like to hear your views.
In regards to plants using nitrogen from dead animal matter-that's a natural process, it would happen if human's didn't exist. And if animals didn't exist.

To people who grow the things I eat, there's not much I can do about that, and my consumption of the produce has no bearing on whether the farmers eat meat or not.

And the logic part-I'm a very logical person. If something doesn't make sense to me, I won't do it. And killing many animals so that I can survive is illogical to me, so I wouldn't do it. I know it makes sense in the context of humans being omnivorous and it would mean me not dying, but I still wouldn't do it.
What about the combine harvesters that kill thousands of small, cute and fuzzy animals (like little field mice) every time they roll across a wheat field or harvest some soy beans? What isn't logical is one group of people thinking they can justify acting superior to another group by virtue of only eating certain kinds of life.

What's "logical" is that mankind lives by consuming life. The closest to alive something is, the healthier it is (if grown/killed naturally.) There is a wealth of medical information bearing out this truth, and an entire diet based around it.

http://www.living-foods.com/faq.html

Here's a hilarious source for that harvester thing:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

And a more serious one:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Story?id=97836&page=1

Oh, and don't praise yourself. It makes you sound like a windbag. Let other people decide whether or not your behavior qualifies you as logical or not. Saying you are doesn't make it so.
Well I am very sorry for expressing my opinion. Obviously I should not be allowed to make decisions for myself for fear of going against convention and upsetting the natural order of things.
 

Cowabungaa

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Gooble said:
Well I am very sorry for expressing my opinion. Obviously I should not be allowed to make decisions for myself for fear of going against convention and upsetting the natural order of things.
That's not the point, the point is you say that it's illogical and that you claim to be a logical person. Problem is, something isn't logical or illogical just because you say it is.
 

ace_of_something

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Yes, I already do that with duck hunting and fishing. I used to live on a ranch during the summer so I've killed many a pig too. I only kill things I am willing to eat; this is why i don't deer hunt.

Now, if i have to COOK it myself... that's a different story; I'm a terrible cook.
 

ProfessorLayton

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Yes. I would have to learn how to cook properly but it'd be worth it. There would be no way in hell that I would only eat vegetables and fruits for the rest of my life. Gotta have that protein.
 

Nazulu

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Oh God yes, makes you appreciate tasty meat and everyone would learn how to cook! I like fishing for this reason, one of the most exciting things ever is to reel in a big fish.
 

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sky14kemea said:
well yeah, i dont eat lamb and stuff anyway, so id only be killing chickens and pigs
chickens im scared of so i dont mind that, i suppose id feel a little bad about the pigs
Oh sure pigs are cute when they're tiny but most people don't really think about the fact they become a living garbage disposal that can grind bone.
I have a scar on my arm that is about 8 inches long from when a pig bit me and broke my arm.

I eat chickens as much as I can because free-range chickens are hellacious little pecking beasts that deserve to be eaten.
 

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cannot_aim said:
yes I could not live with out bacon. Now excuse me while i go kill a small defenseless animal to feed my bacon addiction.
I'd hardly consider a decent sized pig 'small' or 'defenseless'. Those things can be bastards.

However, I'm all for killing and eating my own meat. It might take a little to get accustomed to, but I'd have no problem with it in a moral sense.
 

L33tsauce_Marty

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Well I don't know stranded in the middle of no where...yeah I think I'd do that over starvation. Other than that I see a Publix down the road...
 

Nigh Invulnerable

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Xiado said:
I would, especially if I had to hunt it and earn it in accordance to nature. Besides, guns are weak. Try sneaking up on a cow, jumping on it's back and stabbing it to death with a big knife. Certainly more rewarding than shooting it from 500 feet away, without giving it a chance.
This just made me LOL for a minute. The image of some deranged guy with a butcher knife sneaking through a field, leaping onto a cow with a blood-curdling scream, and then stabbing it to death was just too bizarre, but completely awesome.
 

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ace_of_something said:
sky14kemea said:
well yeah, i dont eat lamb and stuff anyway, so id only be killing chickens and pigs
chickens im scared of so i dont mind that, i suppose id feel a little bad about the pigs
Oh sure pigs are cute when they're tiny but most people don't really think about the fact they become living garbage disposal that can grind bone.
I have a scar on my arm that is about 8 inches long from when a pig bit me and broke my arm.

I eat chickens as much as I can because free-range chickens are hellacious little pecking beasts that deserve to be eaten.
My dad worked on a pig farm in high school, a boar got him with a tusk once and one of his knee high boots filled to the top with blood.
 

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ace_of_something said:
Yes, I already do that with duck hunting and fishing. I used to live on a ranch during the summer so I've killed many a pig too. I only kill things I am willing to eat; this is why i don't deer hunt.

Now, if i have to COOK it myself... that's a different story; I'm a terrible cook.
Tell you what; You kill something, I'll cook it. Sound fair? I'm a pretty darn good cook, if I do say so myself.
 

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Nigh Invulnerable said:
ace_of_something said:
Yes, I already do that with duck hunting and fishing. I used to live on a ranch during the summer so I've killed many a pig too. I only kill things I am willing to eat; this is why i don't deer hunt.

Now, if i have to COOK it myself... that's a different story; I'm a terrible cook.
Tell you what; You kill something, I'll cook it. Sound fair? I'm a pretty darn good cook, if I do say so myself.
done and done. Expect some carcasses in the mail.