Would you use a teleporter?

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Staskala

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It's the same as cloning, for the onlooker it appears as "you" have just moved or are still living, but the real "you", i.e. your consciousness has died. Even if it's an exact copy, it just isn't "you".
Then again, teleporting is just theory, so who knows what we will come up with in the next centuries.

Oh, and is there any quantum physicist here who can answer me what happens with the "old" particle(s) when teleporting? As far as I know it still remains and you only get a new copy at another place, is that right?
There was this one(?) experiment where they sucessfully teleported one particle, but I can't remember what happened with the original one.

That would make teleporting humans a catastrophe.
 

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The teleporter challenges the very notion of death really. By all conventional knowledge, teleporting a living being should be impossible to do, and is basically the same as being able to create new life (Something which is impossible as of today, at least on a multicellular creature).

So no, I would not, as the 'thing' coming out on the other side would not be me.
they can teleport things...its been done like 3 feet so its a start
 

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I've always wanted to teleport, but now that the taking-me-apart issue is brought up, I don't think I'd do it until it was proven to be absolutely safe. Otherwise, in the words of Douglas Adams, "if you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go".
 

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Presumably if the technology was commonplace it'd have all the major kinks wired out by then.
But how would they know? Every time Picard would use a transporter, it would destroy him and create an exact copy somewhere else, with the exact same thoughts and memories. As far as the people operating the machine are aware, the transporter was a complete success, and the duplicate has no idea that he's not the original.
 

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Staskala said:
It's the same as cloning, for the onlooker it appears as "you" have just moved or are still living, but the real "you", i.e. your consciousness has died. Even if it's an exact copy, it just isn't "you".
Then again, teleporting is just theory, so who knows what we will come up with in the next centuries.

Oh, and is there any quantum physicist here who can answer me what happens with the "old" particle(s) when teleporting? As far as I know it still remains and you only get a new copy at another place, is that right?

That would make teleporting humans a catastrophe.
Incorrect. The basic principle is that it decomplies you (takes all your atoms apart), moves them somewhere, then recomiples you in the exact same arrangement. There's no copying of particles, just the disassembly and reassemly of them.

As for actually using it? So long as it's been tested by a human before me and looks safe, I'm in. Planes take too long and zipping across the Atlantic would be great for my current situation ^^
 

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Dorian6 said:
But how would they know? Every time Picard would use a transporter, it would destroy him and create an exact copy somewhere else, with the exact same thoughts and memories. As far as the people operating the machine are aware, the transporter was a complete success, and the duplicate has no idea that he's not the original.
I don't get why you put "as far as they know it was a complete success" without ever explaining how that would be an incorrect assessment. If he's exactly the same as the original Picard but in a different place in space-time, it's a success.
 

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It's always the same thing at this spot, I'd very much like to recommend a film with that subject, but to do so would be to spoiler that film, which would make the whole enterprise futile.

But to answer the question, I'd have to be convinced that it doesn't destroy your chemical balance or something like that, preferably by talking to someone who did it. But then, I don't see why not, since I don't believe in the concept of a soul or anything like that.
 

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The ethical question I think is:
If I can disassemble myself into my constituent molecules and reassemble myself exactly the same with those or other molecules and have the same conscious, opinions, beliefs, and thoughts and memories as before. Do we really have souls? Or are we simply coincidental arrangements of neurons.

The day we have teleportation is the day religion crumbles. Unless you believe that your soul will seek your body out an indefinite distance and rejoin it at its destination. Then again, what happens when you clone someone? Teleportation is essentially cloning, only that you destroy the original and the clone is an exact copy as the cloned person.
 

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I kind of remember an old science fiction about a guy who tries out a teleporter, and a fly buzzes into the reciever. Not pretty. Mix and match, anyone?

So, unless its 100% safe, and doesn't change anything at all save location... no.
 

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I guess there should be someway to keep you alive, but using a teleporter would solve all my transporting problems!!
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
Probably not, mainly because I would be too scared of the fact that my legs may end up in Beijing while I end up in Berlin.
why not, berlin can be explored by car. also by cars without accelerator pedal.

i think its very interessting to use a teleporter, i would try it.
 

Buizel91

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If we did that wouldn't we have endless resources??

And sure if it was safe, Australia here i come =D
 

Staskala

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HellsingerAngel said:
Staskala said:
It's the same as cloning, for the onlooker it appears as "you" have just moved or are still living, but the real "you", i.e. your consciousness has died. Even if it's an exact copy, it just isn't "you".
Then again, teleporting is just theory, so who knows what we will come up with in the next centuries.

Oh, and is there any quantum physicist here who can answer me what happens with the "old" particle(s) when teleporting? As far as I know it still remains and you only get a new copy at another place, is that right?

That would make teleporting humans a catastrophe.
Incorrect. The basic principle is that it decomplies you (takes all your atoms apart), moves them somewhere, then recomiples you in the exact same arrangement. There's no copying of particles, just the disassembly and reassemly of them.

As for actually using it? So long as it's been tested by a human before me and looks safe, I'm in. Planes take too long and zipping across the Atlantic would be great for my current situation ^^
Well, that's just in fiction, in actual quantum physics nothing gets disassembled. Then again, quantum teleportation isn't really about moving objects either, so I don't know what point I'm trying to make.

Quantum teleportation is however the closest thing to actual teleportation we have. I also do not think that something like disassembly is possible in any way, with or without killing it. Containing and moving atoms, then reassembling them in their original state is preposterous when looking at the scientific aspects.

But yeah, we are talking about something that is 90% fictional, so who cares (except me).
 

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If it was proven safe? Sure.
If there were occurrences where in the words of Dane Cook "My ass didn't come with us". Not so much.
 

Lekonua

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If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go.


Now, if we were talking Half Life style- shoot out into another dimension, then shoot back into ours somewhere else- I'd be okay with that.