Wouldn't a Fallout outside of the US not really work?

[The3rdEye]

The title "Fallout" has always been a play on words. It's the result (fallout) of people getting nuked back to the stone-age and the physical/social damage from the aftereffects of the residual nuclear material (fallout).

So, while you would need the style of the original games (dark humor, how people default to their most basic instincts/desires when bereft of authority) to call it a Fallout game, the geographical location really has nothing to do with it.

North America has one of (if not the) biggest audiences for the Fallout series, so while basing the cultural references on the culture of your main demographic may not be necessary, it's financially -required-. A Fallout game can take place anywhere in the world, but the problem is knowing how far the general, global costumer base's knowledge extends to regarding that place's culture, because that will determine exactly how much material you have to work with in order to sew in that dark Fallout-esque humor.

Not having taking place in the americas does mean the lack of certain factions/elements (Enclave, vault co) but in the end those are merely set pieces, simple systems. Fallout has been "yet another" post-apocalyptic game from the start, it just didn't matter because it is a well made game. Period. Having a Fallout game written anywhere but America would no more estrange itself to the "Fallout" series title than losing turn based combat did for #3.

 

[emeraldrafael]

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Thats... wonderful? I dont know. Dont really see where you're going with this, but them again, I'm tired.

 

[spectrenihlus]

Although you wouldn't have those specific names they might have European versions of those things. A german robotic company called Volksrobo perhaps?

True, but that doesn't change the fact that before the great war Europe basically already had a Great War on a smaller scale, e.g. being reduced to a bunch of tiny city states bent on keeping their last resources to themselves then when the Great war happened they nuked themselves to hell and back.

There's also Canonly no Vaults because America was the only country that took steps to protect their citizens (Well at least the citizens thought they were for protection no cruel social experiments..).

Now a new original series that's post apocalyptic would be kick-ass in Europe but it can't be Fallout.

The writers can always retcon it. I mean if tenpenny and moriarty were able to traverse the Atlantic then they must have some industry still in Europe.

 

[spectrenihlus]

Although you wouldn't have those specific names they might have European versions of those things. A german robotic company called Volksrobo perhaps?

True, but that doesn't change the fact that before the great war Europe basically already had a Great War on a smaller scale, e.g. being reduced to a bunch of tiny city states bent on keeping their last resources to themselves then when the Great war happened they nuked themselves to hell and back.

There's also Canonly no Vaults because America was the only country that took steps to protect their citizens (Well at least the citizens thought they were for protection no cruel social experiments..).

Now a new original series that's post apocalyptic would be kick-ass in Europe but it can't be Fallout.

The writers can always retcon it. I mean if tenpenny and moriarty were able to traverse the Atlantic then they must have some industry still in Europe.

again, they left because it was a horrible place. There will always be survivors, but no one wants to be anywhere but America in fallout. Turning on an old boat isn't as hard as it seems. It doesn't mean there is industry in the place. look at fallout 2, it had a working boat but that doesn't mean the NCR built it. the chosen one only found one that can still work.

I guess they can set the game 100 years after New Vegas when the NCR have taken over the entire United States ( lets' face it we all know that is going to happen). The NCR could have it's eyes on Europe now and you are the very first soldier to be able to step foot on European soil. Plus the 100 years would give europe time to fix itself a bit so that it isn;t a total hellhole. You have to first have fallout New York before all this of course. It's amazing that there is no mention on what happens to NYC in the fallout universe.

 

[Ritter315]

I dont know. Thats sort of like saying that Bioshock Infinate is not going to work because certain things in Rapture aren't like they are in Columbia. A bit of a stretch but basically the same.
What I'm saying is that yeah it would be different, but if you keep the technology (Somes of the guns in Fallout are actually from European arms companies), divergant time-line gaining a little more interest in Europe, and new creatures and mutations from European industries and governments (Come you, you can't tell me the Fallout Developers cant put all that German research into nuclear development and scientific experimentation of the 40s and 50s to waste) Seriously, German science comapnies preformed huge very secretive experiements during WWII, can't think of something? Same to the British. Also, in the timeline. Europe isn't completely destroyed just saying.
Europe wouldn't be a horrible choice for an outside US game, but it would be for marketing of course, as new and refreshing no matter how well designed and written, doesnt get the masses off their bland, safe games.
China might not be a bad idea, but it would be a bit of a rougher transition than Europe (Going from West to the Far East here afterall, same marketing problems too)
New ideas can make a game better, even if it IS in an unfamilar world.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

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Meh like FO3 changing cannon things all it takes is a new samey setting outside of the US and you a functional story(even FO3 is iffy on that) and you have a FO game set outside the US.

It easily can be done.

 

[Doomsday11]

In recent topic debates about where the next Fallout should take, many said other countries, like Europe and such but some say it wouldn't be Fallout.

I would say that is mainly because of the feel of the original games. Ok, Fallout 3 took a different take on the Fallout world and totally changed it's vibe (mainly by completely removing the strong undercurrent of humour the originals had), but the original Fallouts played on the idea that after a nuclear war the survivors settled into a rancher/frontiersman stlye of life, strongly remenicient of the Wild West. And the Wild West is a distinctly American phenomenon. With that in mind, it follows that having a Fallout in Paris makes about as much sense as shooting a Western in London.

Another point is the things that make Fallout would disappear. For example, Super Mutants only exist in America as they were genetically engineered there and wouldn't be found elsewhere. Vault-Tec is an American company and so other countries wouldn't have Vaults - they might have Bunkers, or Shelters, but they wouldn't be Vaults. Deathclaws were engineered in America and wouldn't be found elsewhere. The Enclave, as the remenant of the US government, wouldn't exist elsewhere. The Brotherhood of Steel, as the remenant of the US military, wouldn't exist anywhere else (except Afghanistan and Iraq. ZING!). Once you've removed from Fallout everything that makes it Fallout, you just have another post-apocalyptic RPG, so it makes no sense to move Fallout to another country.

However there could be alternative creatures or European versions of super-mutants and death claws?
To be honest I've said this before if the company making a fallout game wants to make it in Europe they'll twist the canon and alter it so it works.

 

[PixelKing]

The UK

 

[Numb1lp]

Ok, so you don't have vaults and supermutants and deathclaws. So what? That doesn't mean there couldn't be other new things other countries in the game could have developed?

 

[Bobic]

There already has been a fallout set outside of the US. It was called S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

 

[TiefBlau]

Pretty sure you could base a historically accurate one in Japan.

Yeah, I'm a dick.

 

[Who Dares Wins]

I think it's time for a prequel !1!!

(Which would probably make everyone who played all the games RAGE, including me)

 

[Cheesus333]

The royal family would have their own private vault. Once the bombs have stopped, surely it would be their first call of duty to return order to London and begin rebuilding the country. Hell, it might go back to total Monarchy.

Ah, see? We've already got our first faction: The Royalists, intent on reimposing the Great British Empire the same way it was established to begin with.

On the bloodied corpses of everyone else.

Then you've got your main opposing faction (the BoS to the Enclave, the NCR to Caesar's Legion), and throw in a few smaller ones who are just trying not to get crushed underfoot. London would make a perfect environment, with all the main landmarks clustered quite closely and a nice sprawling urban area around to explore. A British Fallout, through massively different in atmosphere and style, could work and - furthermore - could work well. I just doubt it would be a popular decision among the fans, particularly the American ones.

 

[gothsheep]

You'd never have a Fallout set outside the US for the same reason you won't have a Grand Theft Auto set outside the US after 3. Because the series has a strong tone of mocking the country it's set in, and if you tried that in France or China, those guys wouldn't stand for it. You'd have protests out the ass and the game would be banned before it even hit the shelves.