WoW: Could 11 Million People be Wrong?

[CMon]

You know I tried to play WoW but it never got the hook on me. One of my first thoughts was "oh god grind". Other than that it's an alright game with a severe lack of the extraordinary which, (in my opinion, mind you), is far from worth the money they charge you for it.

 

[Ron51]

urgh, EVE is the worst! It's like WoW but with even LESS variety and more time wasting grind.

It takes what, 5-7 months to get a battleship with skills worth flying? and then most PVP is ganking anyway.

 

[Ultrajoe]

urgh, EVE is the worst! It's like WoW but with even LESS variety and more time wasting grind.

It takes what, 5-7 months to get a battleship with skills worth flying? and then most PVP is ganking anyway.

Let's keep this on topic. So far it's remained a semi-discussion, lets not make it a thread for taking shots at MMO's in general.

 

[Flour]

Sure, there are those truly great times when you conquer a new dungeon or drop a boss after having spent the day planning a raid, but are those moments really worth it?

Yes they are. However, now that Blizz is making the game too casual it's slowly becoming less and less worth it.

Everything that once separated the best players/guilds from the rest is gone. Hell, Blizzard can't even develop raid instances fast enough, a week or two after a new raid is released players will have it on farm.(they can clear it in a night or two)

I think the 11 million will change dramatically with the (impending) ban on WoW in china. Also, im quite certain that it means 11 million subscriptions instead of active players. I for one stopped playing half a year ago. But im still counted. And when a gold farmer gets banned, he will simply buy a new account. Theres no telling how often that happens.

Blizzard always gives the active accounts, so it's 11 million. But the banned/inactive accounts will probably reach 20-30 million and most of them will have been trial accounts.

 

[Manji187]

Ahh..the legendary sign of desillusion: "Why am I doing this? spending so much time and money on something virtual. Is it really worth it?"

Yes, 11 million people can be wrong. One billion people can be wrong. The whole world can be wrong. Of course the relativists will fiercely object saying something the likes of: "it is true for them and you should respect that". But just cuz they demand respect doesn't mean they earn/ have earned it.

 

[Fraught]

Well, yes. My brother said that the game isn't very interesting or varied etc, but it's just...addicting. Also, he and when I used to (can't now, it's far too boring of a game for me) played the game, we played on private servers. You don't have to pay a monthly fee, you get experience faster, depending on the server, people can be nicer (and depending on what guild you get into) and you can get faster to level 80, and start going to raids, which actually, in my opinion, are the best part of the game.

But yeah, I agree. Playing retail is too expensive, time-consuming and the community is bad. Also, leveling to me usually was and is a task, rather than a journey in WoW, because I always look forward to hitting 80, and going to raids, since that was one of the only things that interested me in the game.

Mostly because the quests were so bland and uninteresting.

Hate it. Never played, but I know I hate it.

It's like if I said I hate you, although I don't even remember any of your posts. I just know it.

 

[Rolf]

I'm realy starting to belive you are right. I played the game for 2 years before i got to 80. I realy didn't play long time at every go because i find the game boring after a while. then i finaly got to 80 and what did i learn. That i have to get epics before i can raid and to do that i need to find a grupe, run i full heroic instance (A level 80 area you need to be five men to win) get the one epic that dropped and when i final got everything i could play the actual point of getting to level 80.

 

[vickyyfar]

I agree that for the majority of the game, it is quite the grind. However, I think that it's still a better MMORPG than most of the stuff out there. It has an addicting quality to it, and there truly spectacular momentsm like the fall of the Wrathgate, that make up for the onslaught of fetching quests. I've been playing on and off for about a year now, and it's always been quite relaxing to me- killing ten Boars is easy.
I'm very lucky in that I found a Guild that is empty of the twelve year old syndrome, but there are some people out there who annoy the hell out of me.

 

[FightThePower]

Yes, they could be wrong. Just because many people like it does not make it good.

 

[El Poncho]

I agree, I did join just after the release of tbc and my friend had joined a month before, so he did help me through the boring bits, but what kept me playing the games is that even though the PvP was unbalanced, I liked to overcome that and kill all of those people who has chosen the better class, getting revenge on people who unfairly killed you when you were low health. Hunting the horde that killed your alt and getting your friends to kill the raid group on westfall.

I have stopped playing WoW though, it got boring when I realized that once I was 80 I had to be the best to get into any decent guilds and with my lags I couldn't do that.

 

[Jennacide]

Your title is misleading. I thought you where going to prove Blizzards account count number wrong. Lawl, not voice your opinion on the game. I could care less. I think it is a great waste of time.

Technically, it is right now. The 11M playerbase is world wide. 5M of those were in China. WoW-China has been down for over 3 months, and was basically unplayable for 6 months. Realistically they HAD 11M accounts, which is now 6M, and that number is steadily dropping due to the horrible changes Wrath has made, the ever present class imbalances, and impending changes players disagree with. ie: Worgen 'announcement' made all of my friends quit, WoW has officially jumped the shark.

 

[TerribleTerryTate]

I'm realy starting to belive you are right. I played the game for 2 years before i got to 80. I realy didn't play long time at every go because i find the game boring after a while. then i finaly got to 80 and what did i learn. That i have to get epics before i can raid and to do that i need to find a grupe, run i full heroic instance (A level 80 area you need to be five men to win) get the one epic that dropped and when i final got everything i could play the actual point of getting to level 80.

I'm no pro gamer, but two years for level 80? Ouch.
Also, I understand that you got to 80, then had to get epics to enter the likes of Naxx/Ulduar etc, but had you been doing professions that helped your character, you could've made some yourself. If you were plate for example, Blacksmithing + Mining are your friends. You could've made weapons and gear for yourself.

I guess it completely depends on what you view to be a grind, and what you view to be an enjoyable challenge. I do agree though, questing on your own is pretty bland, which is why I make sure I only play with friends. Starting a guild, to watch it grow with friends, is a great experience.

At the end of the day though, the people who play WoW, do it because they enjoy the game. Therefore, they personally can not be wrong. Likewise, those that have played WoW, and have decided it simply isn't for them, can not be wrong. It's all personal preference.

 

[scnj]

No, they're not wrong. They like what they like. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

 

[Ultrajoe]

Also, I understand that you got to 80, then had to get epics to enter the likes of Naxx/Ulduar etc

Just to clarify, you can do Naxx in quest and Heroic blues. It's entry-level, and then some.

That said, still a really fun raid.

 

[TerribleTerryTate]

Also, I understand that you got to 80, then had to get epics to enter the likes of Naxx/Ulduar etc

Just to clarify, you can do Naxx in quest and Heroic blues. It's entry-level, and then some.

That said, still a really fun raid.

Oh yeh definitely. However, I unfortunately find many people now on my server ask for the Epic achievement, where your gear needs to all have a certain gear score, effectively disallowing blue gear. I am fortunate enough to be a Holy Priest, so I probably could be in greens and people would bite my hands off (we have a severe Healer shortage on the server I am playing on.)

You're completely correct though, it is still very possible to run the likes of Naxx in blue gear.

 

[Elivercury]

See i agree with it. And i think a few people have missed the point, it's not that there isn't alot of stuff you can do in WoW. It's an MMO, if i could complete it in 5 days then i wouldn't need to pay monthly for it. But in comparison to other MMO's i find it's rather mediocre. The main problem i find with WoW is they try to do too much in terms of gameplay.

Most MMO's pick PvE or PvP, as combining the two is near impossible (as they have proved by doing what is probably a decent attempt, but still rather poor, as the most overpowered class just varies from month the month). Guildwars in my opinion does PvP better than any other MMO, and thus if i want to beat heads in i play that. On the other hand for PvE i play lotro, which even aside from an argueably better storybase, i find the ingame mechanics and general flow of the game much more interesting than WoW (which could just be personal opinion).

But yeah i agree the major issue with WoW is that how casual it is attracts dipshits of the highest calibre. The other thing that makes me feel WoW is mediocre, is how much service they get for their cash. Wow is the standard price for MMO's, yet lots of other MMO's release regular free content, e.g. Lotro - generally release a full expansion of free stuff before they actually release an actual expansion, City of Heroes/Villans, They've only ever released the villians expansion/seperate game and everything else has been free expansions, and i'm certain there are other MMO's i'm just not familiar with that do the same.

But at the end of the day, if people enjoy it, then good for them.

 

[Usagi_dono]

Well, from my experience one of the key elements in wow is the social parts of the game. Playing it alone is'nt very extraordinairy, but get into a nice guild and suddenly it gets really fun.

Although I quit the game around christmas this year I have lots of found memories with the guilds i Joined. (And not so found with the gay stalker I managed to get ingame, scary shit)

Just saying that you "hate the game" without playing it (as many people seems to do... a lot) is not really an answer, its just using a cheap excuse. But thats just me I guess

 

[ShakyFiend]

I thought the point of wow was that it was MMOORPG, and a key component of these games has and always will be a certain amount of grind. What wow does so brilliantly is make the grind incredibly varied. Incedently some people seem to be under the impression that you have to have the expansions to play the game

Then a new expansion comes out, and you have to pay for that too.

You dont have to, if you are thinking of buying wow may I suggest that you buy basic for £10 (which is cheap for a game) and then buy the expansions if you like it.