XBOX 360 Slim: Dying, scamming and enraging customers already...

[toastmaster2k8]

Hey...my new PS3 didn't come with an HD cable,
either.

Yah, but why would they put something in to make it good and then sour it by taking it out. oh yah its Micro$oft.

 

[Ashsaver]

You do know you can just plug it directly into your tv and have your tv run to sound system. Or you can plug it into something else like a dvdo which is what I do. You really dont need to plug in both an HDMI and AV cable as the AV cable will be doing nothing at all. I have everything plugged into the dvdo and then that goes to my tv. Its a rather simple setup and allows me to have quite a few things hooked up at once.


Why do you want both HDMI and component cables plugged in at the same time anyways? Its not like it actually does anything extra, your just plugging in more stuff then needed.

What if someone want to hook an Xbox360,Xbox360 Slim to an LCD monitor that has HDCP? normally those monitor doesn't have sound system built in.

I have an Xbox360 and a PS3 hooked to the same monitor,I use HDMI to DVI cable for my ps3 and use its RCA cable for sounds,but i can't do the same set up for Xbox360,i have to rely on its VGA cable instead,and suffer a reduced Visual quality compared to the HDMI.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

It's not so much "contempt for the customer", just failure to test thoroughly before release.

It's a side effect of deadlines and expensive pieces of complexity.

Well they did release it right when the anounced it, they really should have tested it. I'm still have my klunky loud old 360, but hey it works like a dream and has never broken a disc XD

 

[nYuknYuknYuk]

Thought they would have sorted this out by now. Why release a new console if it has more problems than the last one?

 

[Mrsoupcup]

It's not like having to buy the headset for the 360 that is only compatible with the 360.

Really? I have gotten my 360 headset and controler to work with my computer... So.... Derp?

 

[MiracleOfSound]

You do know you can just plug it directly into your tv and have your tv run to sound system.

Not if

a) You use Turtle Beaches or stereo connected 'XBOX Compatible' gaming headphones

b) Your TV does not have Audio Out phono jacks

Ummm the whole point of HDMI is that your audio and video run HD through a single cable, minimising clutter. I have my blu-ray player, PC, PS3 and 360 running HDMI straight into my amplifier and then the sound is directed from there. (and it works perfectly) There is no reason to be using HDMI and AV cables.

Also I have had no issues with my slim as of yet... here's hoping it stays that way!!

Not many people have an amplifier dude!

Glad you've had no issues, I'm hoping I can avoid them too.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

You do know you can just plug it directly into your tv and have your tv run to sound system. Or you can plug it into something else like a dvdo which is what I do. You really dont need to plug in both an HDMI and AV cable as the AV cable will be doing nothing at all. I have everything plugged into the dvdo and then that goes to my tv. Its a rather simple setup and allows me to have quite a few things hooked up at once.


Why do you want both HDMI and component cables plugged in at the same time anyways? Its not like it actually does anything extra, your just plugging in more stuff then needed.

What if someone want to hook an Xbox360,Xbox360 Slim to an LCD monitor that has HDCP? normally those monitor doesn't have sound system built in.

I have an Xbox360 and a PS3 hooked to the same monitor,I use HDMI to DVI cable for my ps3 and use its RCA cable for sounds,but i can't do the same set up for Xbox360,i have to rely on its VGA cable instead,and suffer a reduced Visual quality compared to the HDMI.

That's exactly what I have and why it has no audio outs. It's a Samsung LCD monitor.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Why would you ever, EVER touch a system while it's running? You cant even touch a NES without the system locking up and you want to touch something with a disc that's doing thousands of revolutions per minute? That's not a design flaw, unless you want the disc to spin at 1x so your levels can load in 10 minutes.

Look if you want to blame Microsoft, blame them for their shitty Xbox live contracts that scare away some developers, or for the original system for having major RROD issues because they didn't want to hire a company to design the motherboard and they tried to do it in house. You don't even bring a discussion you're already clearly bias for whatever reason. Lets look at the facts, Microsoft is a corporation, just like the other two big companies they want your money and they'll ask for any accessories they can. I don't care about the company so much unless they do really bastard things like Ubisoft and their Nazi like DRM.

As I said earlier... Gamecubes, CD walkmans, DVD players, laptops.... none of these ruin discs when moved.

Also... I have heard Ubisoft are getting rid of thier DRM for PC guys, which is great because now I can stop boycotting them!

 

[MiracleOfSound]

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The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree though. The same people who buy their 4th 360 are the same people who prefer a controller to keyboard and mouse for shooter games.

I'll take comfort over an extra 5% accuracy any day.

 

[Infinatex]

You do know you can just plug it directly into your tv and have your tv run to sound system.

Not if

a) You use Turtle Beaches or stereo connected 'XBOX Compatible' gaming headphones

b) Your TV does not have Audio Out phono jacks

snip!!

Not many people have an amplifier dude!

Glad you've had no issues, I'm hoping I can avoid them too.

Yeah with modern TVs I can see why, I just got a new one for my bedroom and the thing has like 5 HDMI ports on it!

 

[MiracleOfSound]

People sometimes move things by accident. It happens. People have kids, pets, narcolepsy, stuff like that y'know?

And beside, I once dropped my Gamecube from a five foot high shelf, it rolled all around the floor and when I looked back, the game was still running perfectly. Consoles can be built to avoid this problem.

Ahh, the Gamecube, I loved that little indestructible box of fun. The Wii is pretty much a Gamecube, just went on a diet and got a paint job. Nintendo had some good console design I'll give them that, except maybe the NES, Virtual boy and the damn sensor bar for the Wii!!! But hey, everybody makes mistakes.

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It may have looked all purple and innocent but it was a an armoured juggernaut!

 

[MiracleOfSound]

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Yeah with modern TVs I can see why, I just got a new one for my bedroom and the thing has like 5 HDMI ports on it!

My problem is that I use an LCD monitor (especially made for gaming and graphic design) and it has no audio out function.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

forum fail.

Post fail.

It was as loud as a chainsaw, and sometimes slightly scratched my discs. After a while it started to have trouble reading discs, and eventually stopped reading them all together. It RROD'd a total of 3 fucking times (and somehow worked still, barely). I just gave up and bought a new one, which works perfectly!

Yowza, that's a lot of problems for one 360.

Ironically, despite all the problems I did have with my old white brick, and all the rage and wasted phone credit it caused me... it lasted 3 years without ever getting RROD. (but I took care of it, let it cool down every 2 hours and kept it away from walls and carpets)

 

[Vilcus]

People sometimes move things by accident. It happens. People have kids, pets, narcolepsy, stuff like that y'know?

And beside, I once dropped my Gamecube from a five foot high shelf, it rolled all around the floor and when I looked back, the game was still running perfectly. Consoles can be built to avoid this problem.

Ahh, the Gamecube, I loved that little indestructible box of fun. The Wii is pretty much a Gamecube, just went on a diet and got a paint job. Nintendo had some good console design I'll give them that, except maybe the NES, Virtual boy and the damn sensor bar for the Wii!!! But hey, everybody makes mistakes.

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It may have looked all purple and innocent but it was a an armoured juggernaut!

When I got my Wii I took my Gamecube and went Hulk on it (It was already broken because one of the cables was busted, the system itself was fine). Took 4 whacks with a hammer before I could see any discernable damage (besides the obvious dents, and the like).

Also, the Gamecube, along with other devices had the CD nub that held them in place. With the 360 it's like a PC. It's held in my ridges, and it's not really secured. Attempting to move it when it's set up like that is guaranteed to destroy your disk. Also, the reason more system aren't designed like that anymore is that spinning the disk causes the system to heat up faster, that's why they stopped making devices that secured disks in the same fashion as the Gamecube.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Firstly, blows my mind that people with a working 360 are queueing up to buy the 360 slim.

Secondly, to explain why people keep getting another 360 after one, or three 360s has died on them, warranties for a start, and also, they'll have invested hundreds of dollars in games and peripherals, all useless without the console to use em on.

It does amaze me that with the reputation MS had for dodgy hardware, that they'd allow their new machine to fail this much too.

They might still be selling a bunch of these, mainly for my above reason, I'd guess, but I sense when the PS4 and Xbox 1080 come out, there's going to be a huge proportion of pissed 360 owners thinking very carefully about whether they want to invest $500 in another round of pass the parcel with MS returns dept.

 

[snogard77]

ok so let me get this straight, neither the new xbox or the new ps3 come with HD cables as standard?

funny, i could swear my 360 came with component cables...seams you need to stop buying the "arcade" version. oh...and get a newer tv...crt tvs are teh suck

 

[mattttherman3]

I just use the cables from my old 360 for hd, they work fine...

 

[Snotnarok]

Why would you ever, EVER touch a system while it's running? You cant even touch a NES without the system locking up and you want to touch something with a disc that's doing thousands of revolutions per minute? That's not a design flaw, unless you want the disc to spin at 1x so your levels can load in 10 minutes.

Look if you want to blame Microsoft, blame them for their shitty Xbox live contracts that scare away some developers, or for the original system for having major RROD issues because they didn't want to hire a company to design the motherboard and they tried to do it in house. You don't even bring a discussion you're already clearly bias for whatever reason. Lets look at the facts, Microsoft is a corporation, just like the other two big companies they want your money and they'll ask for any accessories they can. I don't care about the company so much unless they do really bastard things like Ubisoft and their Nazi like DRM.

As I said earlier... Gamecubes, CD walkmans, DVD players, laptops.... none of these ruin discs when moved.

Also... I have heard Ubisoft are getting rid of thier DRM for PC guys, which is great because now I can stop boycotting them!

Those all have different speeds and handle discs differently And it's generally not a good idea to move any of them when moving (except the CD player obviously)

 

[Hashime]

Not really my phone does not have any moving parts while it is on. In fact the only thing that does is my iPod that I carry around with me. .

..yet my old CD Walkman used to go jogging with me and never skip or scratch discs, despite having numerous moving parts... and that was 10 years ago.

The tech is there to avoid it.

Yes, either a clip for the disk, or one piece of foam.
But they were too cheap to do it.