Unless Microsoft has an hardline alternative for this such as kiosks or hard copies then they risk losing a massive chunk in sales.
Xbox 720: No disk drive, No used games.
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Perhaps this is just my conspiranoia talking but I have to wonder if all these rumors is just microsoft testing the waters to see what they can get away with before consumers get up in arms. Eventually they'll find something that isnt "invasive enough" to the majority of consumers and then give themselves a monopoly on their system and everything released for them.
Personally I think these suggestions are telling of how far the industry wants to go but I dont think it will go that far. At least not for a very long time.
As for me, considering that the exclusives for the current generation have been IMO pretty lackluster I think with the next generation Im just going to stick to my PC. If companies dont want to support my choice of platform then they wont get my money.
Personally I think these suggestions are telling of how far the industry wants to go but I dont think it will go that far. At least not for a very long time.
As for me, considering that the exclusives for the current generation have been IMO pretty lackluster I think with the next generation Im just going to stick to my PC. If companies dont want to support my choice of platform then they wont get my money.
Macgyvercas said:Okay, developers. Look. We have used markets for music, books, cars, pretty much everything you can think of. Why the hell do you think games should be exempt from that?[/quote
Because those industries have secondary sources of incomes
Music:concerts.
Books:laughably low poduction costs.
Carsbviously better new and comes with free service often.
Movies: dvd's reruns on tv
Its not the industry at large but individual games that suffer.Gamer_152 said:
Every other industry has back-up plans.
But we do not and because it is a data based system stopping wear and tear making new purchases the best product.
And movies and concerts have secondary income sources keeping them afloat.
movies have: Dvd's (example scott pilgrim vs the world flopped at the box office but the dvd made the money back
Cd's:concerts
Games:nothing so untill games have a secondary source of income we will see new ip's dieing very early because of everybody buying it used and thinking "what harm will i do?"
agreed. It would mean that i could live anywhere and not have to worry about my next game. i simply download.FelixG said:
I wouldn't think the country's Internet infrastructure is quite good enough yet to support something like this, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt. If it turns out to be true, though, I'll probably end up passing on the 720. I've gradually become more attached to gaming on my PC over the years, until now I'm at the point where there's literally only two or three games I even play on my Xbox.
My status as a console gamer was hanging by a thread. I think it's safe to say that thread has been cut.
My status as a console gamer was hanging by a thread. I think it's safe to say that thread has been cut.
Welcome to the PCification of consoles. Cake will be served shortly alongside the game licenses, try the punch in the meantime. It's made with Souplex's tears.
We may have to put it away, though, seeing how it's all a rumor at this point... and a pretty far-fetched one at that.
We may have to put it away, though, seeing how it's all a rumor at this point... and a pretty far-fetched one at that.
If it does do this then I am happy with my 360. Also hasn't anyone noticed that Steam already does this?
I don't know with the popularity of COD, Halo, and GOW I don't think it really matters what Xbox does. I'd pay a grand a year for xbox live if that's what it took.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
No used games? Bah who cares, Steam doesn't have used games and that doesn't slow me down at all. If they make new games like 55USD instead of 60 they might be able to get consumers to think of this as a plus.
The biggest downside is the price/size of current hard drives for the Xbox. You can't have a digital sales system focused on selling full scale games en mass with these storage units.
In theory, I should support this, I always like it when my favorite developer get's as much of my spent cash as possible.
But let's think about something, how many people in and out of the gaming industry own and play a Super Nintendo? Now let's consider that this no used games thing had been invented for that system.
If you wanted to play Super Metroid, or Chrono Trigger, or Link to The Past in their intended format, then you would need to shell out tons of cash for a boxed copy, not benefiting the creators in any way.
When I was little, and I got my USED N64, we couldn't afford new games, we had to get used ones.
If this policy had been around then, I would have never even played a video game, and god-knows what I'd be doing now.
But let's think about something, how many people in and out of the gaming industry own and play a Super Nintendo? Now let's consider that this no used games thing had been invented for that system.
If you wanted to play Super Metroid, or Chrono Trigger, or Link to The Past in their intended format, then you would need to shell out tons of cash for a boxed copy, not benefiting the creators in any way.
When I was little, and I got my USED N64, we couldn't afford new games, we had to get used ones.
If this policy had been around then, I would have never even played a video game, and god-knows what I'd be doing now.
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renegade7 said:
The rumor is that it will not use blueray because it is a sony technology and need to pay licensing.
but dvd´s are too old so they probably wont use them it would not suprise if they use some proprietary SD(the ds and vita cartridges)format the size of a disc.
First off, fuck that SR dev. Hes just a whiney ****.
As for the 720. Good. This is a good thing. The industry needs to see a period without used games. They need the painful lesson that the 720 will bring when it fails to move even 1 million units. I have always wanted a 1 console future and it looks like I will get it as long as Sony don't fuck everything up and go all used game retarded like MS.
But honestly, I doubt that rumour is true. MS has to know the risk it will put on them. They will make publishers and devs happy at the risk of losing the vast majority of their users. And I just don't think even MS is stupid enough to put themselves at that sort of disadvantage especially with the PS in such close competition.
As for the 720. Good. This is a good thing. The industry needs to see a period without used games. They need the painful lesson that the 720 will bring when it fails to move even 1 million units. I have always wanted a 1 console future and it looks like I will get it as long as Sony don't fuck everything up and go all used game retarded like MS.
But honestly, I doubt that rumour is true. MS has to know the risk it will put on them. They will make publishers and devs happy at the risk of losing the vast majority of their users. And I just don't think even MS is stupid enough to put themselves at that sort of disadvantage especially with the PS in such close competition.
Of course we noticed. The average PC gamer doesn't particularly care about the Used Wars, as we haven't had used games available to us for YEARS. I don't care about the fate of used games, and people have called me a monster for it, but hey, welcome to my world.Trippy Turtle said:
I hadn't heard that part of the rumors.rolfwesselius said:
That I would be more than OK with. Cartridges have come a long way since the N64 days.
Precisely everything I wanted to say and more.Mr.K. said:
What 12 year old won't be begging his mom for this when it comes out?