Yahtzee is going to murder Saints Row: The Third.

[Something Amyss]

I hardly expcet glowing armiration...but Im having a blast so far

"so much of the good stuff is compeltly gone" could you care to explain that?

and anyway..in the end its just yahtzees opinion..some people take it too seriously

Yeah, I must be missing what's gone. Then again, I'm pretty early in the game.

A lot of the customisation is gone, and I bitched and moaned, but that alone isn't enough to turn me off from the game or really to count as a lot of the game going missing in general.

I don't think he'll hate the game, let alone murder it. And honestly, all I really care about is that his review is amusing. I can't stand the mentality where people love his shtick only until he picks on a game they like.

 

[Something Amyss]

This is the opinion on Yahtzee I dislike. Yes, he's a cynic, but he's also a pro who actually knows what he's talking about. You can't always dismiss everything he says just because he's a cynic, most of his criticism is very valid, and he's just the only person brave enough to bring it up.

And dial back the hyperbole a few degrees.

 

[Ruwrak]

This is the opinion on Yahtzee I dislike. Yes, he's a cynic, but he's also a pro who actually knows what he's talking about. You can't always dismiss everything he says just because he's a cynic, most of his criticism is very valid, and he's just the only person brave enough to bring it up.

I remember an article a while back, a discussion between Yahtzee and a Gearbox guy. Yahtzee brought up the fact that Borderlands was a boring as shit game (for numerous reasons), and the developer just laughed it off with 'oh Yahtzee, you silly cynic'. Thing was, Yahtzee was right.

I hate this type of responces. No matter what I say you're gonna rip on it anyway.

I did not say that Yathzee is bad or evil (though I'm convinced those imps came from somewhere.). What I said was that Yathzee will rip it apart, wether it's good or not.

The 'who cares' thing is not a stab, but who really buys a game because he tells you to? I know I don't. I also know I don't let any review build my opinion on a game. Why? Because fun and a 'good game' is a perspective thing. His (and your) definition of fun is not MY definition of fun. I liked / loved / enjoyed every minute in Borderlands. I honestly did. You did not apparently. What does that say? "F all" it says.

I enjoy his video's just as much as the next person but I see them as entertainment. If I am to take all of his reviews and bad points in the games seriously, I'd still be playing Tetris and Silent Hill 2 all day.

If you can't see the point I am trying to make about reviews, opinions, entertainment, individuality and freedom of opinion then you need to reasses yourself a little. Because come on.. We can't take -everything- in life serious.


Edit: He is a pro indeed, and he knows his stuff but that is not the reason I dismiss him (do I even dismiss him at all?) as a reviewer. I hope you did get that from the past post up here.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Ummm... I think you might want to reassess what you just said there. He only likes the original 3 Prince or Persia games.

He gave 2008's Prince of Persia a recommendation. A tentative one, but he still did.

 

[karloss01]

so much of the good stuff is compeltly gone. yes its more wacky and over the top but too much that made SR2 a great game is gone, making SR3 just a "good" game.

many aspects of SR3 will appeal to him like no other game has but i feel that SR2 will seem the better overall in his eyes.

whats gone? so far i haven't seen any take-aways only improvements.

 

[Jazoni89]

If anyone actually listened to Yahtzee's opinions, no one would play anything except for Silent Hill 2 over and over again.

I would also never of played awesome games like Mirrors edge, or Valkyria Chronicles if i took Yahtzee's opinion seriously.

It's good to have your own opinion about things.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

so much of the good stuff is compeltly gone. yes its more wacky and over the top but too much that made SR2 a great game is gone, making SR3 just a "good" game.

many aspects of SR3 will appeal to him like no other game has but i feel that SR2 will seem the better overall in his eyes.

I don't really know what game you're playing... Have you even done the Genki's Super Ethical Reality Climax? That not over the top enough?
The man-cannon not enough for you? (Ok if you didn't pre-order the game you're outta luck). Or the Johnny Gat bobble-head wagon that breathes fire not enough? How about parachuting into a moving plane you just jumped out of, flying through it at high speeds, grabbing another chute off some unlucky dude and flying back outside to save a friend? Not over the top?
Seriously... I've only put maybe 4 hours in the game and I had to turn it off from sensory overload... and my sides started to hurt from laughing too damn much.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

What, specifically, has been taken out?

 

[BoredRolePlayer]

Wait wait wait, you mean people read reviews to decide to buy a game or not and not based on what they feel?

 

[Zing]

I just want to know why I have to download 1.4 GB straight away even when I bought the discs. Especially retarded when it goes at 50-100 kb/s and stops all the time.

 

[surg3n]

You can't take what he says literally... if we did, then we'd probably never buy a videogame again! - he's hypercritical for comedic effect.

He'll probably rip into GTA5, he kicked my beloved Battlefield3 right in the ovaries - ''hello i am yahtzee and i will review the single player campaign because im in no position to critique the multiplayer aspects of this multiplayer-centric game for comedic effect''
He hasn't liked any games very much recently, even though this year has been the best year for games in a long time IMO. You can't turn to Yahtzee for a serious critical review, nobody should use his reviews as a basis for buying a game or not - and I say that while knowing that his videos are damn funny and I watch them all.

I never got into Saints Row, but actually SR3 looks like a lot of fun to me, a sandbox game that lets you go properly crazy, what's not to like.

 

[noble cookie]

Well he said what he liked about SR2 was how mental it was, nothing has been removed in the fun department my friend, SR3 won't be worse. Hell no!

 

[Sonic Doctor]

After listening to the Escapist review of it, I do think Yahtzee will not like it more than SR2.

They removed some of the Barbie dress up. Which some people apparently obsess over.

The point on that is that that was one of the big reasons Yahtzee loved SR2, was how amazing the character customization was. It isn't stupid to see less customization in the third game as a flaw. It makes no sense from a development stand point that something as simple as dressing up the playable character gets a cut in the amount of customization in a new installment of a game.

SR3 is a sandbox game, and a sandbox game is only as good as the amount of freedom the player has, and character customization is a part of that freedom.

I'm going to hazard a guess that you are the type of person that goes into a game and when the character customization comes up, you either barely fiddle with it or you just select the default look that is provided.

I actually like SR3 over SR2, mostly because I am not forced to do side missions to go with the main missions.

See I might actually be able to play that game with only having to do those missions ONCE.

I don't get people that play games like that. When I buy a game, I buy it for the whole game. I play the whole game as the developer intended, if they put it in there I do it. Even on all play throughs after the first, I do it all, no matter if I hate certain missions or not, they are part of the game.

Side missions are side missions, but they are part of the game to be played.

It's like how I don't get people that complain that an RPG is short because they beat it in like 17 hours, when on my first play through I got 55 hours out of it. But when I ask those people how they did everything in the game in 17 hours, they say they didn't do everything, they only did maybe 2 of the side quests.

It makes no sense to buy a game and only play maybe 35% of it. It doesn't even make sense if one does that if they did 100% of the game the first time.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Well he said what he liked about SR2 was how mental it was, nothing has been removed in the fun department my friend, SR3 won't be worse. Hell no!

The point is that Yahtzee is big into customization(was a big part of his SR2 review) and it sounds like there is far less in SR3. From the Escapist review, it sounds like there is far less weaponry as well.

I have no doubt that in Yahtzee's review of it, that that will overshadow anything good that stayed the same or got better from the second game, because it is a major development flaw to thin out the amount of customization and useable items from one game to it's sequel.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I've only played a few hours (mostly dicking around with the activities) but the only detraction I can think of compared to SR2 is that it seems smaller: the map is smaller and everybody is saying they finished the campaign already so that sounds like it's really short too.

I'm having fun but considering how he raved about SR2, I can totally see him crucifying 3. I might do that myself if everything got scaled down.

But I don't really care what reviewers say about a game as most of them rave about any sort of crap. Yahtzee at least underrates games rather than overrates them...usually.

One thing that has really disappointed me about it: they implemented online pass. It's a good thing (for them) I didn't find out about that, otherwise I wouldn't have bought SR3.

 

[surg3n]

You can't take what he says literally... if we did, then we'd probably never buy a videogame again! - he's hypercritical for comedic effect.

He'll probably rip into GTA5, he kicked my beloved Battlefield3 right in the ovaries - ''hello i am yahtzee and i will review the single player campaign because im in no position to critique the multiplayer aspects of this multiplayer-centric game for comedic effect''
He hasn't liked any games very much recently, even though this year has been the best year for games in a long time IMO. You can't turn to Yahtzee for a serious critical review, nobody should use his reviews as a basis for buying a game or not - and I say that while knowing that his videos are damn funny and I watch them all.

I never got into Saints Row, but actually SR3 looks like a lot of fun to me, a sandbox game that lets you go properly crazy, what's not to like.

Everything a game does should be open to critisism, if B3 wants to have a Singleplayer, they should make it good, otherwise they might just skip it. If it ain't good, it's no reason to have it there.

Indeed, but I felt that overlooking Battlefield3's epic multiplayer, the reason why people bought it, was a bit daft and petty.
When he reviewed Fable2, he reviewed the single player mode, not the horrific multiplayer mode - it's a well known fact that BF3's single player sucked, he knew that, and prepared his review to please COD fanboys and haters IMO. It's like challenging Stephen Hawkings to a dance off instead of an IQ test. Personally I'd rather hear more opinion from Yahtzee, maybe save the slating for the truly horrible games being released, not games that are flawed but still brilliant.

 

[surg3n]

Indeed, but I felt that overlooking Battlefield3's epic multiplayer, the reason why people bought it, was a bit daft and petty.
When he reviewed Fable2, he reviewed the single player mode, not the horrific multiplayer mode - it's a well known fact that BF3's single player sucked, he knew that, and prepared his review to please COD fanboys and haters IMO. It's like challenging Stephen Hawkings to a dance off instead of an IQ test. Personally I'd rather hear more opinion from Yahtzee, maybe save the slating for the truly horrible games being released, not games that are flawed but still brilliant.

If B3:s multiplayer is brilliant and the singleplayer is awful, they shouldn't have released singleplayer at all. Mind you, TF2 is multiplayer-only and he actually liked that game.

It would be like a second campaign in Skyrim where you're forced to play Too Human. Either you fix the damn singleplayer, or don't have it at all and reduce the prize.

Agreed! - I'd rather they just added a bot mode for the multiplayer maps - was fine for BF2, I actually liked to play against bots for practice, have done with all the other BF games.
I haven't even tried the SP, it's a waste of a DVD