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Woodsey

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I've seen some very recent screenshots doing the rounds, and they look much improved from everything else I'd seen.

As for: ""No exclusive organization. No saving the world. No ancient evil." (David Gaider)."

That means they're doing something different with the structure, that's hardly worrying, that's refreshing (although I could play a hundred BioWare RPGs and never tire of them).

I was concerned until recently, but seems like the PC version is what it should be, so I'm now officially looking forward to it.

And the less we know the better, I say. I went into Origins knowing nothing about it other than that it was old school, and so everything was fresh for me (I know, the irony).

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Edit:Also from looking at the pics I see they left the intense covered in blood look again after hitting a person once.
Well yeah, but then they are slitting them across the throat with a sword. You'd soon be complaining if there was no blood.
 

ZeoAssassin

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combat seems to be just fine and not butchered compared to DA:O


story seems interesting. not sure how great "interactive framed narrative" will be but its sound interesting non the less.

also those SS look fine to me, little rough around of the edges but completely expected of alpha shots
 

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The screenshots in the OP were released over the summer, they've clearly done a lot since then (especially with the environments). I too thought those first screenshots looks awful.
 

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You are not the only one. I have a huge list of things that I am worried about - in my head, that is, I don't write that stuff down. It appears that Bioware want to streamline this game and make it 'awesome'. Unfortunately, I equate 'awesome' to be equal to 'completely dumbass'.

I'm sure that it will end up being a decent enough game, they are a talented bunch at Bioware but I have a feeling that it won't be a game I will be playing again and again as I did with Origins, which I thought was a wonderful game, one of the best of the last decade.

You may not agree with this, but it worries me that they will do to it what they did to the Mass Effect series. The first game being a brilliant RPG albeit let down technically with things like inventory management, user interface etc. and the second game was so 'streamlined' that it didn't even remain in the same genre and became a dialogue-heavy, third-person shooter. I was very disappointed in many ways with that game, on the other hand it was a pretty good shooter by anyone's standards.

I agree with your comments on the artistic style of DA2. It looks bloody terrible. Also, let's hope that there are some different enemies to chop into small pieces because the Darkspawn look pretty damned comical to me.

The only bit of good news that I have heard recently is that mages will be able to use their staffs for something useful when enemies get all up close and personal i.e. there will apparently be staff bashing! Yay.
 

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D0WNT0WN said:
Dragon Age: Origins is one of my favorite Bioware games but im afraid that the sequel might be crap.

"No exclusive organization. No saving the world. No ancient evil." (David Gaider).
In all honesty, that quote right there has been one of the first good things I've heard about DA2. I am so very sick of being the most powerful member of an ancient/secretive order and the only one that can save the world and defeat the terrifying ancient evil. A more personal, human tale is right up my street than a world too big for me to relate to. Maybe I'll have an emotional connection if they keep the scale small.
 

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I'm just not going to buy it for the reason of no character customization... I want to be me, not Hawks or whoever he/she is.
 

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ZeoAssassin said:

story seems interesting. not sure how great "interactive framed narrative" will be but its sound interesting non the less.
I guess they must've missed Alpha Protocol, which was laid out similarly with an 'interactive framed narrative' and it came out first. Kinda makes them look silly claiming to be the first to do it was Dragon Age 2. =P

That being said, there was nothing about that video that didn't look and sound completely fucking awesome.
 

Irony's Acolyte

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I see only one set of pants in each picture. I don't know what all this talk of pants is about. Dragon Age: Pants

From what I've seen I don't have many worries. Sure the graphics aren't the best (neither were DA:O though) and the story structure has more in common with Mass Effect then DA:O; but this is Bioware, I have faith that they'll make a good game.

And I also don't mind not being "The Chosen One" who has to defeat "The Great Ancient Evil" by grabbing "The Mystical Weapon of MacGuffin" and assembling "The Army of All that is Good and Just" after completing "The Quest of Purity" in "The Mountains of Dread" right next to "The Dismal Marsh". "I" am getting "Carried Away" now...

As always, I'll see when it comes out.
 

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Irony said:
I see only one set of pants in each picture. I don't know what all this talk of pants is about. Dragon Age: Pants

From what I've seen I don't have many worries. Sure the graphics aren't the best (neither were DA:O though) and the story structure has more in common with Mass Effect then DA:O; but this is Bioware, I have faith that they'll make a good game.

And I also don't mind not being "The Chosen One" who has to defeat "The Great Ancient Evil" by grabbing "The Mystical Weapon of MacGuffin" and assembling "The Army of All that is Good and Just" after completing "The Quest of Purity" in "The Mountains of Dread" right next to "The Dismal Marsh". "I" am getting "Carried Away" now...

As always, I'll see when it comes out.
I agree with what you're "saying".
 

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Woodsey said:
I've seen some very recent screenshots doing the rounds, and they look much improved from everything else I'd seen.

As for: ""No exclusive organization. No saving the world. No ancient evil." (David Gaider)."

That means they're doing something different with the structure, that's hardly worrying, that's refreshing (although I could play a hundred BioWare RPGs and never tire of them).
This. I hate that Bioware story chart that is floating around. Its not a Bioware story chart, its a "Most goddamn stories told ever" chart. Also, formula is nice, you know what's expected and though it doesn't give much room to deal with it, it leaves the sequels open to do different stuff.

GiantRaven said:
ZeoAssassin said:

story seems interesting. not sure how great "interactive framed narrative" will be but its sound interesting non the less.
I guess they must've missed Alpha Protocol, which was laid out similarly with an 'interactive framed narrative' and it came out first. Kinda makes them look silly claiming to be the first to do it was Dragon Age 2. =P

That being said, there was nothing about that video that didn't look and sound completely fucking awesome.
Alpha Protocol doesn't exist. It wasn't meant to be made and never was. End of story.

Also it was made by Obsidian, which Bioware has good relations with, so they may have felt comfortable making the claim. Also, one guy said it, not the entire company.
 

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i really hope those pictures are from an early build, but like other people have pointed out, graphics arent everything. and as for no saving ther world and whatnot im actually glad this is the case, i frikkin love all bioware games, but seriously another game where save the world by doing a mission, get a companion, doing a mission get a companion, doing a mission, get a companion.. getting a bit boring

(obviously there's still companions, but i hope its gonna be a little less forced than ME2)
 

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nin_ninja said:
Alpha Protocol doesn't exist. It wasn't meant to be made and never was. End of story.

Also it was made by Obsidian, which Bioware has good relations with, so they may have felt comfortable making the claim. Also, one guy said it, not the entire company.
Ah, just a little ribbing on my part. I think the concept is absolutely fantastic. I hope they can pull it off well.
 

DustyDrB

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nin_ninja said:
Woodsey said:
I've seen some very recent screenshots doing the rounds, and they look much improved from everything else I'd seen.

As for: ""No exclusive organization. No saving the world. No ancient evil." (David Gaider)."

That means they're doing something different with the structure, that's hardly worrying, that's refreshing (although I could play a hundred BioWare RPGs and never tire of them).
This. I hate that Bioware story chart that is floating around. Its not a Bioware story chart, its a "Most goddamn stories told ever" chart. Also, formula is nice, you know what's expected and though it doesn't give much room to deal with it, it leaves the sequels open to do different stuff.

GiantRaven said:
ZeoAssassin said:
I guess they must've missed Alpha Protocol, which was laid out similarly with an 'interactive framed narrative' and it came out first. Kinda makes them look silly claiming to be the first to do it was Dragon Age 2. =P

That being said, there was nothing about that video that didn't look and sound completely fucking awesome.
Alpha Protocol doesn't exist. It wasn't meant to be made and never was. End of story.

Also it was made by Obsidian, which Bioware has good relations with, so they may have felt comfortable making the claim. Also, one guy said it, not the entire company.
Hey, Alpha Protocol was much better than I expected. I just played it (and reviewed it here) and overall liked it. The minigames were a huge drag, though.
 

Dethpixie

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If there's one company I trust to do shit right it's Bioware... or Valve. The "no saving the world" aspect sounds quite refreshing. When was the last time anyone played a fantasy rpg where you weren't the chosen one destined to save the world but were instead treated to a more intimate, character driven storyline (no faulting the original Dragon Age of course I'm just saying the change of pace could be nice)?

As for the screenshots I'm shocked it took as long as it did for people to point out that it is clearly alpha footage.

Alas, this sort of thing seems to happen with every Bioware release, everyone worries that they've done away with everything good from the previous game and then it comes out and, surprise, it's good and everyone is happy... well a few people will complain that it's dumbed down and won't play it but mostly everyone will be happy.
 

Tony2077

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those picture look old so unless you can prove there new ones i wouldn't worry about that part . the no ancient evil thing seems like a plus to me we may still fight dark spawn but at least they won't be the center of the story