Yes, I do like turn-base, and I will tell you why.

[Cpt. Sarcastic]

While i was younger i spent a ton of time playing that pokemon games on the gameboy. while it was very fun to play, and had different moves and other things to change the game, it still didnt have much strategy to it. it was just a game of using the strongest attack on your enemy until he died, and occasionally wasting a turn healing, and hell, you always got 6 "lives" (additional pokemon) each battle to defeat your opponent. im sure that other turn based games are more difficult, since pokemon was made for the age 5 - 12 group, but with those games theres still not any more strategy than pausing the game, taking as many days as you like to think out your moves, and then attack. while you arent given as much time in real time games, that doesnt mean it requires less planning or strategy. it simply means you have to think FASTER.

there was this guy earlier making some comparision to chess. while chess is very fun and turn based, you also have a living oponent right next to you that will likely get angry and change a few pieces around if you stop mid game to go make a sandwich and look at some strategy guide. so even then you dont have all the time in the world to play that game. he also said something about a same time version of chess, which sounds very interesting and challenging, if it can be done right.

and come on, you cant wail on starcraft, Zomni42. if you think theres no strategy in that, then you have obviously never played. you get the noobs that want to build up a couple hundred zerglings and rush you in five minutes, and the guys that build complicated fleets that are almost impossible to defeat, and both enemies require much different strategies to be defeated. and the only reason it has only 3 different resources is because it was made by a company working on 3 games at once in the 90s. the fact that the game is still widely played today should be a clue that it is a rather good game.

ok, super long post done.

 

[Dramus]

Well, I think his point was that you couldn't put more resources in Starcraft because then only the super players would have the brain matter necessary to manage them all effectively. He wasn't saying that Starcraft was less strategic, only less complex. As I've said before, different games use different strategies, depending on their engine. Also, people have said that turn based games get boring while waiting for your enemy, but that's not true in the good ones. They all have come up with ways to overcome this. Civ games make the enemy turn last 1 second of processing time, Fire Emblem makes death permanent, so you're on the edge of your seat with your fingers hovering on the soft reset buttons wondering if you're going to survive, Paper Mario (and M&L) have real time input for dodging and countering, etc, etc, etc. As other people have said, just because there are some really boring turn based games out there does not mean the whole genre is devoid of value.

 

[Zomni42]

Hehe, don't get me wrong, I do believe that star craft is a good game, even a great game. I was just pointing out a difference in Depth of strategy between RTS and Turn based strategy. In Star Craft you make a strategy that will pay off in about 10 minutes, tops. In games like Total war, or some JRPG's that no one would care about, you make strategies that will pay off much longer down the road and will make changes in nuances that RTS games don't focus on as much. You never worry that your drone is gonna rebel on you or that your Marine isn't gonna follow your orders to the letter. While whole armies will rebel against you in Total war if you change your religion at a wrong time and if you choose the more RTS Total War's system of battle your units' moral will be affected from both in battle and out of battle situations (their leader being killed in battle is different than having an Inquisition guy have him executed etc.). Also, i can't Play StarCraft for shit. I realize it's a good game, it's just not one i understand very well.

Oh, I have made a sandwich while playing chess with an appropriately patient opponent (i didn't take my eyes off him for a sec and still made the wrong move but i DID IT I TELLZ YOU!)