You are directing Final Fantasy XV. Where do you take the series?

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SimuLord

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Where do I take the series? Out behind the woodshed for an Old Yeller ending.

Then I make a game that could've come directly from Bethesda Game Studios...but with chocobos! And lo and behold, Final Fantasy lives again...better. faster. We can rebuild it. We have the technology.
 

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ahlycks said:
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Final Fantasy XV
The First Person Shooter

Insted of bullets, Firaga though.
umm you do know fi
well, final fantasy 7 di

Wow i was going to say something about your comment but it is so... i dont know so i cant finish my correction. There is no way to contradict that without being rude or wrong.

Anyway,i would make it go back to its routs of final fantasy 10 and below. I miss turn based rpgs... where did they ever go to?
I know there was Dirge of Cerberus, but I also know it was a godaweful Third Person aRail shooter, an idea that was 10 kinds of doomed o fail from the get go, I feel.

And actualy, the more I think about it, the more I realize how terrible an Idea it is anyway.
Bring back the ATB system and make Amano the artist again and I'll be happy. So my "forward" direction is back a few games.
i liked Dirge of Cerberus...

oh god wait that amano guy? dident he make the art for all the games 6 and below? yeah screw that.
I'll admit, I haven't played much of DoC, but what little I played wasn't... pleasant. Albeit I'll submit it was near the end of the game on a friends file, so I was kinda just button mashing.

Six and below and Nine. I like his art, since it has nice flow and relatively realistic looking proportions. Not to say Nomura doesn't, his are actually quite well done, especially recently, but I've never felt the same spark from his as I have from Amano's (save for the XIII designs, since those seem to borrow heavily from Amano, probably owing a little to the art he did from Dissidia.)
I'd actualy like to see someone new take up the FF art, like Ayami Kojima, the Castlevania artist. Or Hideo Minaba who did A.S.H.. Actualy, I'd like to see all the guys who did XII's designs back togeher, since it was like seven guys who made some of my favorite designs in the games.
Hey have you seen the Amano sketches of final fantasy 7? those will make you think twice about it. His artwork consists of undecipherable genders, light tones, and sharp objects. And machines covered in cloth. Whats good about that? That is just what i think. however, his recent sketches found in dissidia(i did not know that those were his. Tell me if i'm wrong) were nice enough(clouds head is on my avatar).

Eh, about XII, the artwork was not that great in my opinion... Well, i take that back. i forgot how awesome the final boss looked. Yeah, even though i did not like how that characters looked that much, the monster design was impressive, excluding all the bangas and whatever the hell those other things are. It ruined the land of Ivalice! (lol the only one that helped its image was ff tactics. Long live FFT!)
Yeah, his VII sketches were truely awful, I think it mostly has to do with him trying to keep Nomura's style integrated into his own. his <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff7-sephiroth3.html>Sephiroth is actually really good, but it'd probably the best, beside the Cloud/Aeris one he did that would have been better WITHOUT Cloud in it. His VIII art is better, except for Squall being blonde in alot of it and having this stupid look on is face in one of them that would otherwise be beautiful. But I wouldn't call the genders indecipherable, his men are just <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/ff6-locke-concept.html>really <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/ff6-locke-cole2.html>really <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff1-ff6-bartz_faris.html>pretty (It's worth noting that the one on the right IS a woman and intentionally ambiguous). Nomura did all the drawings for Dissidia, but some new Amano drawings came up during it, mostly things like Squall drawings and his orginal Cloud of Darkness. The Dissidia designs were mostly combos of Nomura's designs and Amano's arts for the games, which is why everyone is covered in beads and flowy cloth.

XII just has such a massive artstyle shift from the rest of the Ivalice Alliance games, it's a bit ofsetting. But I do guess the slightly cute look of A2/Advanced/War of the Lions wouldn't have rendered all that well. And the Espers were fantastic.
where is this blond squall you speak of? i cant find it
<url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff8-amano-dance.html>With Rinoa <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff8-amano-squall_selphie.html> With Selphie
He looks abit like Zell, so it's an easy mistake. Selphie also looks a bit strange. The dance one is the rediculous face one I mentioned.
 

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Put the poor fellow out of his misery. I loved the first seven but it's just dragging its self out refusing to just give up and die, and I'd make that death the most spectacular waste of designer time EVER!
 

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lordlee said:
SimuLord said:
Where do I take the series? Out behind the woodshed for an Old Yeller ending.

Then I make a game that could've come directly from Bethesda Game Studios...but with chocobos! And lo and behold, Final Fantasy lives again...better. faster. We can rebuild it. We have the technology.
Except that taking the archetypal JRPG series (though not, as many people seem to think, the only one) and making it a WRPG would be the biggest mistake possible.
I don't care if it sells (and it wouldn't; the JRPG fans would be angry about the gameplay and the WRPG fans would be like "Final Fantasy? Desu kawaii cosplay get the fuck away from me, you weeaboo" or something to that effect). The question was "You are directing. Where do you take the series?" and my answer to that was "into territory that would make me actually want to play it." To hell with everyone else!
 

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ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
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Final Fantasy XV
The First Person Shooter

Insted of bullets, Firaga though.
umm you do know fi
well, final fantasy 7 di

Wow i was going to say something about your comment but it is so... i dont know so i cant finish my correction. There is no way to contradict that without being rude or wrong.

Anyway,i would make it go back to its routs of final fantasy 10 and below. I miss turn based rpgs... where did they ever go to?
I know there was Dirge of Cerberus, but I also know it was a godaweful Third Person aRail shooter, an idea that was 10 kinds of doomed o fail from the get go, I feel.

And actualy, the more I think about it, the more I realize how terrible an Idea it is anyway.
Bring back the ATB system and make Amano the artist again and I'll be happy. So my "forward" direction is back a few games.
i liked Dirge of Cerberus...

oh god wait that amano guy? dident he make the art for all the games 6 and below? yeah screw that.
I'll admit, I haven't played much of DoC, but what little I played wasn't... pleasant. Albeit I'll submit it was near the end of the game on a friends file, so I was kinda just button mashing.

Six and below and Nine. I like his art, since it has nice flow and relatively realistic looking proportions. Not to say Nomura doesn't, his are actually quite well done, especially recently, but I've never felt the same spark from his as I have from Amano's (save for the XIII designs, since those seem to borrow heavily from Amano, probably owing a little to the art he did from Dissidia.)
I'd actualy like to see someone new take up the FF art, like Ayami Kojima, the Castlevania artist. Or Hideo Minaba who did A.S.H.. Actualy, I'd like to see all the guys who did XII's designs back togeher, since it was like seven guys who made some of my favorite designs in the games.
Hey have you seen the Amano sketches of final fantasy 7? those will make you think twice about it. His artwork consists of undecipherable genders, light tones, and sharp objects. And machines covered in cloth. Whats good about that? That is just what i think. however, his recent sketches found in dissidia(i did not know that those were his. Tell me if i'm wrong) were nice enough(clouds head is on my avatar).

Eh, about XII, the artwork was not that great in my opinion... Well, i take that back. i forgot how awesome the final boss looked. Yeah, even though i did not like how that characters looked that much, the monster design was impressive, excluding all the bangas and whatever the hell those other things are. It ruined the land of Ivalice! (lol the only one that helped its image was ff tactics. Long live FFT!)
Yeah, his VII sketches were truely awful, I think it mostly has to do with him trying to keep Nomura's style integrated into his own. his <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff7-sephiroth3.html>Sephiroth is actually really good, but it'd probably the best, beside the Cloud/Aeris one he did that would have been better WITHOUT Cloud in it. His VIII art is better, except for Squall being blonde in alot of it and having this stupid look on is face in one of them that would otherwise be beautiful. But I wouldn't call the genders indecipherable, his men are just <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/ff6-locke-concept.html>really <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/ff6-locke-cole2.html>really <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff1-ff6-bartz_faris.html>pretty (It's worth noting that the one on the right IS a woman and intentionally ambiguous). Nomura did all the drawings for Dissidia, but some new Amano drawings came up during it, mostly things like Squall drawings and his orginal Cloud of Darkness. The Dissidia designs were mostly combos of Nomura's designs and Amano's arts for the games, which is why everyone is covered in beads and flowy cloth.

XII just has such a massive artstyle shift from the rest of the Ivalice Alliance games, it's a bit ofsetting. But I do guess the slightly cute look of A2/Advanced/War of the Lions wouldn't have rendered all that well. And the Espers were fantastic.
where is this blond squall you speak of? i cant find it
<url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff8-amano-dance.html>With Rinoa <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff8-amano-squall_selphie.html> With Selphie
He looks abit like Zell, so it's an easy mistake. Selphie also looks a bit strange. The dance one is the rediculous face one I mentioned.
Jeez Amano really likes blonds and white haired people.
That, I can't deny. Off the top of my head, every game has atleast one person that fits that, sometimes two. VI had the most, with Locke, Edger, Saban, Celes, Gau, and Umaro, the Yeti. Terra was blonde in her art too, I think
 

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ahlycks said:
Brain_cleanser said:
ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
Brain_cleanser said:
ahlycks said:
Brain_cleanser said:
ahlycks said:
Brain_cleanser said:
ahlycks said:
Brain_cleanser said:
Final Fantasy XV
The First Person Shooter

Insted of bullets, Firaga though.
umm you do know fi
well, final fantasy 7 di

Wow i was going to say something about your comment but it is so... i dont know so i cant finish my correction. There is no way to contradict that without being rude or wrong.

Anyway,i would make it go back to its routs of final fantasy 10 and below. I miss turn based rpgs... where did they ever go to?
I know there was Dirge of Cerberus, but I also know it was a godaweful Third Person aRail shooter, an idea that was 10 kinds of doomed o fail from the get go, I feel.

And actualy, the more I think about it, the more I realize how terrible an Idea it is anyway.
Bring back the ATB system and make Amano the artist again and I'll be happy. So my "forward" direction is back a few games.
i liked Dirge of Cerberus...

oh god wait that amano guy? dident he make the art for all the games 6 and below? yeah screw that.
I'll admit, I haven't played much of DoC, but what little I played wasn't... pleasant. Albeit I'll submit it was near the end of the game on a friends file, so I was kinda just button mashing.

Six and below and Nine. I like his art, since it has nice flow and relatively realistic looking proportions. Not to say Nomura doesn't, his are actually quite well done, especially recently, but I've never felt the same spark from his as I have from Amano's (save for the XIII designs, since those seem to borrow heavily from Amano, probably owing a little to the art he did from Dissidia.)
I'd actualy like to see someone new take up the FF art, like Ayami Kojima, the Castlevania artist. Or Hideo Minaba who did A.S.H.. Actualy, I'd like to see all the guys who did XII's designs back togeher, since it was like seven guys who made some of my favorite designs in the games.
Hey have you seen the Amano sketches of final fantasy 7? those will make you think twice about it. His artwork consists of undecipherable genders, light tones, and sharp objects. And machines covered in cloth. Whats good about that? That is just what i think. however, his recent sketches found in dissidia(i did not know that those were his. Tell me if i'm wrong) were nice enough(clouds head is on my avatar).

Eh, about XII, the artwork was not that great in my opinion... Well, i take that back. i forgot how awesome the final boss looked. Yeah, even though i did not like how that characters looked that much, the monster design was impressive, excluding all the bangas and whatever the hell those other things are. It ruined the land of Ivalice! (lol the only one that helped its image was ff tactics. Long live FFT!)
Yeah, his VII sketches were truely awful, I think it mostly has to do with him trying to keep Nomura's style integrated into his own. his <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff7-sephiroth3.html>Sephiroth is actually really good, but it'd probably the best, beside the Cloud/Aeris one he did that would have been better WITHOUT Cloud in it. His VIII art is better, except for Squall being blonde in alot of it and having this stupid look on is face in one of them that would otherwise be beautiful. But I wouldn't call the genders indecipherable, his men are just <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/ff6-locke-concept.html>really <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/ff6-locke-cole2.html>really <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff1-ff6-bartz_faris.html>pretty (It's worth noting that the one on the right IS a woman and intentionally ambiguous). Nomura did all the drawings for Dissidia, but some new Amano drawings came up during it, mostly things like Squall drawings and his orginal Cloud of Darkness. The Dissidia designs were mostly combos of Nomura's designs and Amano's arts for the games, which is why everyone is covered in beads and flowy cloth.

XII just has such a massive artstyle shift from the rest of the Ivalice Alliance games, it's a bit ofsetting. But I do guess the slightly cute look of A2/Advanced/War of the Lions wouldn't have rendered all that well. And the Espers were fantastic.
where is this blond squall you speak of? i cant find it
<url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff8-amano-dance.html>With Rinoa <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff8-amano-squall_selphie.html> With Selphie
He looks abit like Zell, so it's an easy mistake. Selphie also looks a bit strange. The dance one is the rediculous face one I mentioned.
Jeez Amano really likes blonds and white haired people.
That, I can't deny. Off the top of my head, every game has atleast one person that fits that, sometimes two. VI had the most, with Locke, Edger, Saban, Celes, Gau, and Umaro, the Yeti. Terra was blonde in her art too, I think
Amano is a chick? lol the person who made this thread owes us because we are keeping his thread alive...
I think Amano's a dude. Yoshitaka's a masculine name.
I know. I'll take my complemetry thread living cookie.
 

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ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
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ahlycks said:
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Final Fantasy XV
The First Person Shooter

Insted of bullets, Firaga though.
umm you do know fi
well, final fantasy 7 di

Wow i was going to say something about your comment but it is so... i dont know so i cant finish my correction. There is no way to contradict that without being rude or wrong.

Anyway,i would make it go back to its routs of final fantasy 10 and below. I miss turn based rpgs... where did they ever go to?
I know there was Dirge of Cerberus, but I also know it was a godaweful Third Person aRail shooter, an idea that was 10 kinds of doomed o fail from the get go, I feel.

And actualy, the more I think about it, the more I realize how terrible an Idea it is anyway.
Bring back the ATB system and make Amano the artist again and I'll be happy. So my "forward" direction is back a few games.
i liked Dirge of Cerberus...

oh god wait that amano guy? dident he make the art for all the games 6 and below? yeah screw that.
I'll admit, I haven't played much of DoC, but what little I played wasn't... pleasant. Albeit I'll submit it was near the end of the game on a friends file, so I was kinda just button mashing.

Six and below and Nine. I like his art, since it has nice flow and relatively realistic looking proportions. Not to say Nomura doesn't, his are actually quite well done, especially recently, but I've never felt the same spark from his as I have from Amano's (save for the XIII designs, since those seem to borrow heavily from Amano, probably owing a little to the art he did from Dissidia.)
I'd actualy like to see someone new take up the FF art, like Ayami Kojima, the Castlevania artist. Or Hideo Minaba who did A.S.H.. Actualy, I'd like to see all the guys who did XII's designs back togeher, since it was like seven guys who made some of my favorite designs in the games.
Hey have you seen the Amano sketches of final fantasy 7? those will make you think twice about it. His artwork consists of undecipherable genders, light tones, and sharp objects. And machines covered in cloth. Whats good about that? That is just what i think. however, his recent sketches found in dissidia(i did not know that those were his. Tell me if i'm wrong) were nice enough(clouds head is on my avatar).

Eh, about XII, the artwork was not that great in my opinion... Well, i take that back. i forgot how awesome the final boss looked. Yeah, even though i did not like how that characters looked that much, the monster design was impressive, excluding all the bangas and whatever the hell those other things are. It ruined the land of Ivalice! (lol the only one that helped its image was ff tactics. Long live FFT!)
Yeah, his VII sketches were truely awful, I think it mostly has to do with him trying to keep Nomura's style integrated into his own. his <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff7-sephiroth3.html>Sephiroth is actually really good, but it'd probably the best, beside the Cloud/Aeris one he did that would have been better WITHOUT Cloud in it. His VIII art is better, except for Squall being blonde in alot of it and having this stupid look on is face in one of them that would otherwise be beautiful. But I wouldn't call the genders indecipherable, his men are just <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/ff6-locke-concept.html>really <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-12/ff6-locke-cole2.html>really <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff1-ff6-bartz_faris.html>pretty (It's worth noting that the one on the right IS a woman and intentionally ambiguous). Nomura did all the drawings for Dissidia, but some new Amano drawings came up during it, mostly things like Squall drawings and his orginal Cloud of Darkness. The Dissidia designs were mostly combos of Nomura's designs and Amano's arts for the games, which is why everyone is covered in beads and flowy cloth.

XII just has such a massive artstyle shift from the rest of the Ivalice Alliance games, it's a bit ofsetting. But I do guess the slightly cute look of A2/Advanced/War of the Lions wouldn't have rendered all that well. And the Espers were fantastic.
where is this blond squall you speak of? i cant find it
<url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff8-amano-dance.html>With Rinoa <url=http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/ff8-amano-squall_selphie.html> With Selphie
He looks abit like Zell, so it's an easy mistake. Selphie also looks a bit strange. The dance one is the rediculous face one I mentioned.
Jeez Amano really likes blonds and white haired people.
That, I can't deny. Off the top of my head, every game has atleast one person that fits that, sometimes two. VI had the most, with Locke, Edger, Saban, Celes, Gau, and Umaro, the Yeti. Terra was blonde in her art too, I think
Amano is a chick? lol the person who made this thread owes us because we are keeping his thread alive...
I think Amano's a dude. Yoshitaka's a masculine name.
I know. I'll take my complemetry thread living cookie.
oh her as in Terra, not amano.

yeah i thought amano was a guy
Yeah, bad wording on my part. Amano's a dude. Most of the named people on the older FFs are.
 

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I'd scratch the "XV" part and make it a prequel to FF10.

I want a story of how Jecht ended up in Spira and the stuff he went through to kill Sin, explain more about his relationship with his kid and when he realised that he could never go home. Also because Jecht is a completely badass ************ who plays volleyball with meteors, I know there would be some epic battles in the game. An ending that shows how Jecht became the Final Aeon to kill and become Sin to save Spira would be freaking awesome.
 

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So what kind of game do you want to make it?
"A game truly worthy of praise"

First, I would kill the main concept of a group, led by the protagonist, going on a quest to save the world from evil. Such a cliche core...it simply has to change. Also, flat characters are a crime punishable by death. Attention will go to their personality, their hopes, dreams, ambitions, fears, quirks....their hairstyle and attire must take the back seat. Emotions will not be conveyed by loud screaming or silently saying a person's name...nor by onion induced tears. You will not be able to enter a stranger's home to loot their cupboards...You will not wield 6 foot swords (unless they are some lightweight alloy..). There will be no prophecies, no "chosen one's", no evil that has been sealed for a long time but managed to break free...

It would be a game anyone could like...not just a Jap or a Japanophile.
 

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ahlycks said:
Funny that you bring up FF Tactics...
Only the first one was good. All the other ones are full with stupid animals.
Long live Final Fantasy Tactics!
Did you even play FFTA2?
 

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no because it has bangaas making it a bad game. And nothing can ever compete with the original final tactics and i don't want that beautiful image ruined.

And have you even played final fantasy tactics?
No I have not. Primarily because I would be playing it on the same console as I play Disgaea and playing it would raise the question "Why am I playing this instead of Disgaea?". But note I didn't make any statements about the quality of FFT, because I don't make comments from ignorance, unlike you.