You can hate Mario games, right?

[Gladion]

That's the problem...I don't know why...They just aren't any fun to me...Some giant hole is missing from the game...Its just a feeling...

You said you love Zelda games? I think I know what it is. You probably enjoy games that you can tie a familiar/epic face to, like Link. Maybe you just don't appreciate the character of Mario, which isn't surprising considering how he's supposed to be a hefty Italian plumber. Take a Mario game. Replace the main character with Link. Is it better now?

Nope. Link could be replaced with Mario in the Zelda series and it'd still like his games. Hell, they'd be better because they'd have a mustache.

Do you admit that Mario 64 defined 3D gaming as we know it today?

How did it do so? Was it the first fully 3D game in development?

Super Mario 64 revolutionized 3D platforming
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Well, then...it was quite revolutionary. It broke the mold, shall we say? But that doesn't make it any good.

Basically, 3D games in general were just shit up until Mario 64 showed everyone how to do it properly (talking about controls, camera, how to use the different altitudes, how to design power ups) - many things had to be redesigned when stepping into the third dimension, and I doubt a game would have had such an impact on the whole industry if it wasn't a very well crafted one, would it?

Noone forces you to like it, but you have to admit it is kinda hard to believe that you cannot enjoy Mario games even though you like platformers.

 

[Shadow Law]

I only like the adventure Mario games rather then the sports or racing related games.

 

[Antiparticle]

Try Super Mario World, on the SNES. If you don't like that one either, there's no helping ya.

 

[KValentine]

I've never enjoyed playing a Mario game from Super to SSBB. Platform jumping never really appealed to me nor did random button mashing.

 

[Strong Intelligent]

The thing is, I really WANT ro hate Mario games, but the gameplay makes up for the characters and "plot".

If Galaxy had a controllable camera I would consider putting it in the "glourious list"

 

[Deacon Cole]

What opinions are you expecting? You don't like the Mario games. Fine. If you have a concrete reason, then there can be a discussion. But you don't really give one other than you don't find the games fun. Well,... okay. Don't play them. Seems simple enough to me.

 

[Mockingjay]

Direct answer:yes.

But why even post this? If you don't like Mario fine. Lot's of people don't. But why ask a question like this? If you know you don't like it the what's the problem?

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I think I've got it! The setting and story of a game have a lot to do with it, right?

Well, that never hooked me in Kirby, either, but the abilities system was very fun to play around with. Which would explain why I did not enjoy Kirby's Dream Land 1.

Spyro and Crash both had great settings with funny characters and dialogue. Story wasn't good, but the dialogue was witty and charming. Mario games lack any sort of real connection with the character. Mario is some dude, a Peach is a useless princess. A Bowser is just a very bad idea for a villain. My cat's litterbox is more evil than Bowser.

Jak & Daxter was a masterfully executed example of how to immerse you in a setting. They did it by not giving you an overworld map. You go somewhere by actually walking there or taking a shortcut of some sort. And the characters were awesome. The sequels were great too, albeit less platforming, but I liked the platforming whenever it reared its head. R&C, well, I actually generally enjoyed the gunplay more than the platforming in the entire series, which explains why I don't like the first one. The controls really were perfected in the second game onward.

EDIT: So, basically, I seem to enjoy three things in games: Immersion, Over-The-Top Action or a sense of progress (like EXP or something, I need to feel like I'm accomplishing something)

 

[Xvito]

I think I've got it! The setting and story of a game have a lot to do with it, right?

Well, that never hooked me in Kirby, either, but the abilities system was very fun to play around with. Which would explain why I did not enjoy Kirby's Dream Land 1.

Spyro and Crash both had great settings with funny characters and dialogue. Story wasn't good, but the dialogue was witty and charming. Mario games lack any sort of real connection with the character. Mario is some dude, a Peach is a useless princess. A Bowser is just a very bad idea for a villain. My cat's litterbox is more evil than Bowser.

Jak & Daxter was a masterfully executed example of how to immerse you in a setting. They did it by not giving you an overworld map. You go somewhere by actually walking there or taking a shortcut of some sort. And the characters were awesome. The sequels were great too, albeit less platforming, but I liked the platforming whenever it reared its head. R&C, well, I actually generally enjoyed the gunplay more than the platforming in the entire series, which explains why I don't like the first one. The controls really were perfected in the second game onward.

I really agree about Jak and Daxter!

Also, Mario games should stay in two dimensions. The best Mario game out there is still Super Mario World.
I never was much of a Mario fan. Super Mario World is the only Mario game that I really enjoyed, although that game is one of my favorite games... Ever!

 

[Jason Danger Keyes]

Honestly, I only liked the Paper Mario on the GC. I just never seemed to have fun with the others.

 

[Strong Intelligent]

My cat's litterbox is more evil than Bowser.

Would make sense, if your cat has similar bowles too mine

 

[EzraPound]

Anyone who says they don't like Mario is trying too hard to be cool, and needs to be trying harder. Though I would suggest trying James Pond if your aversion doesn't subside, as a similar alternative.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

My cat's litterbox is more evil than Bowser.

Would make sense, if your cat has similar bowles too mine ~~~

Well, they might be clones.


People asking why I made this topic: Because I honestly couldn't figure out why, but after much thought, I seemed to have put the puzzle together.

Also, I never played any console Zelda except for the first 30 minutes of Wind Waker, when my friend decided to show me Okami instead. But the handheld games were just so good...Especially Oracle of Seasons...

 

[johnman]

I never liked mario, never played any games where he features as the main character. The character and gameplay just bore me.

 

[Perryman93]

i dislike all mario games apart from super mario and super mario 2 :6 golden coins on the game boy

 

[KamachoMcSagget]

maby you want something with more pazzaz (if thats how it's spelled). when it comes down to it, mario is just running and jumping, and you probably want more.
Also I didn't like Super Mario Galaxy, but that was just because it was too easy.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Anyone who says they don't like Mario is trying too hard to be cool, and needs to be trying harder. Though I would suggest trying James Pond if your aversion doesn't subside, as a similar alternative.

I've heard good things. But I try not to go back a console generation for any reason, unless there's a port. With the exceptions being when I don't have my 360. I did play Okami on my PS2 when my 360 RRoD'd. And Legend of Mana. And I downloaded Wild Arms off of Playstation Network straight to my PSP. (You should get it for your PSP/PS3, if whoever reads this has one)

I just don't want to stop talking with my friends over XBL. Yes, there are people on XBL older than 12 that also aren't assholes. Not many, mind you.

 

[Blow_Pop]

i liked mario brothers and super mario brothers but after that....i stopped playing them. they got boring to me. i'll still play those two occasionally. but its when i find the systems i have them on and the games at the same time.

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I just don't want to stop talking with my friends over XBL. Yes, there are people on XBL older than 12 that also aren't assholes. Not many, mind you.

I know a few people over the age of 21 on XBL some of my best friends. Most of them I went to high school with, but I still won't get a 360