You Can't Be the Hero If You're the Rapist

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eatdembeanz

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Why can't we just ignore the rape games? It's like a mosquito bite; if you pick at it and attempt to remove it you just get hurt, but if you leave it alone, eventually it just GOES AWAY. That or it actually develops into a more comfortable (justifiable) form, just like the ultra-violent games we have today.
 

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Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lives, so why a one sided view point by many.
Murder victims don't spend years trying to forget the horror that was done to them. Murder victims don't need therapy and they aren't mentally devastated.
 

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Kajin said:
Bottom line, it never happened in real life. Stop getting your knickers in a twist about it.
hmmm... rape's never happened before, that's a new one. I don't mind the games simply because I don't have to play them but rape shouldn't be made into a game. It is already so I'm going to drop it but still....
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
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I give you GTA4. Is cutting down civilians justified? Then maybe they should both be banned.
Depends. Are they pissing me off?

I didn't say either game should be banned. I am fully against censorship, no matter how bad something may be.
I pretty much agree with Maly and his article on this one.

Though I personally have no problem with murder at all. I'm just horrible that way, I suppose.
Murder in games?

....right?
 

Kajin

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Panzer_God said:
Kajin said:
Bottom line, it never happened in real life. Stop getting your knickers in a twist about it.
hmmm... rape's never happened before, that's a new one. I don't mind the games simply because I don't have to play them but rape shouldn't be made into a game. It is already so I'm going to drop it but still....
Actually the moment I posted that I knew I made a mistake in my choice of words, I just couldn't be bothered to fix it. Rape does happen, but unless any one specific party is actually injured by it then their shouldn't be a problem with it.

Sure games like these are tasteless and disgraceful to women, but is anyone actually being forced to play these games? No. No they are not.
 

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Frankly, if you have to ask why should people get so up in arms over rape games when there's so much killing in others, you're either fanatically devoted to that asinine philosophy that everything's a matter of opinion or you're suffering from a brain tumor.

As the above article stated (though I think its tone was slightly cynical), comparing rape to killing isn't really the same because the actions aren't equivalent to each other. Killing is sometimes an unfortunate necessity, while there's never a legitimate reason to violate someone sexually. Perhaps rape can be included in a game as part of the storyline, i.e. a you play a cop trying to catch a rapist or the hero is hunting the antagonist because he raped his girlfriend/wife/loved one, but never as an activity you engage in.

I believe in the freedom of speech and that people should be allowed to say what they wish. But never forget the door swings both ways. The way I see it, everybody has the right to say what they wish, no matter how offensive, just as those they offend have the right to verbally tear them a new one.
 

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Panzer_God said:
Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lives, so why a one sided view point by many.
Murder victims don't spend years trying to forget the horror that was done to them. Murder victims don't need therapy and they aren't mentally devastated.
Well... no, because they're dead.
 

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As a rule. Killing in the game is OK if it achieves some end that "saves the world". Unless by raping little girls your somehow killing Aliens, there's no way to get the ESRB to let it be "kosher". There's a line, however vague, and sometimes people cross it. And then they usually get eaten by sharks.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
Panzer_God said:
Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lives, so why a one sided view point by many.
Murder victims don't spend years trying to forget the horror that was done to them. Murder victims don't need therapy and they aren't mentally devastated.
Well... no, because they're dead.
That's the point, the murder victims don't worry about it anymore, their life is over, which sucks, but a rape victim still needs to live their life and they're all torn up inside.
 

Ziren

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Panzer_God said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
Panzer_God said:
Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lives, so why a one sided view point by many.
Murder victims don't spend years trying to forget the horror that was done to them. Murder victims don't need therapy and they aren't mentally devastated.
Well... no, because they're dead.
That's the point, the murder victims don't worry about it anymore, their life is over, which sucks, but a rape victim still needs to live their life and they're all torn up inside.
So, if your suggesting that death is better than surviving a rape experience you're in favour of euthanasia for them (probably even against their will), right?
And no, that's not what you said, but it can be deducted from your statement.
 

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Panzer_God said:
Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lives, so why a one sided view point by many.
Murder victims don't spend years trying to forget the horror that was done to them. Murder victims don't need therapy and they aren't mentally devastated.
Murder victims never get to smile again, infact murder victims never do any thing again.

That and any one who is bring up the fact that killing people can be necessary at time just stop. There are more than enough games where you kill people who you don't need too or even just for the fun off it. Was the bomb in Megaton necessary? Any one ever killed an npc just to get a certain bit of loot? Like the boots of speed in Morrowind? Should all of this be removed? It is all well and good to say killing can be just but when games have to nuking towns how do we justify that? How is this "murder simulator" argument any different from the rape sim argument?
 

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Ziren said:
Panzer_God said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
Panzer_God said:
Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lives, so why a one sided view point by many.
Murder victims don't spend years trying to forget the horror that was done to them. Murder victims don't need therapy and they aren't mentally devastated.
Well... no, because they're dead.
That's the point, the murder victims don't worry about it anymore, their life is over, which sucks, but a rape victim still needs to live their life and they're all torn up inside.
So, if your suggesting that death is better than surviving a rape experience you're in favour of euthanasia for them (probably even against their will), right?
And no, that's not what you said, but it can be deducted from your statement.
Um... How could you derive that from anything I said? Where in your twisted little mind did you decide that I wanted to kill rape victims? I want to kill rapists, not the victims, they need help. My entire position is that I would rather be murdered then raped.
 

Panzer_God

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Worsle said:
Panzer_God said:
Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lives, so why a one sided view point by many.
Murder victims don't spend years trying to forget the horror that was done to them. Murder victims don't need therapy and they aren't mentally devastated.
Murder victims never get to smile again, infact murder victims never do any thing again.

That and any one who is bring up the fact that killing people can be necessary at time just stop. There are more than enough games where you kill people who you don't need too or even just for the fun off it. Was the bomb in Megaton necessary? Any one ever killed an npc just to get a certain bit of loot? Like the boots of speed in Morrowind? Should all of this be removed? It is all well and good to say killing can be just but when games have to nuking towns how do we justify that? How is this "murder simulator" argument any different from the rape sim argument?
It isn't, I don't care about the game because I don't have to play it. Your entire argument was based in fantasy while mine are in reality so our argument won't do anything.
 

Worsle

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Panzer_God said:
Ziren said:
Panzer_God said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
Panzer_God said:
Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lives, so why a one sided view point by many.
Murder victims don't spend years trying to forget the horror that was done to them. Murder victims don't need therapy and they aren't mentally devastated.
Well... no, because they're dead.
That's the point, the murder victims don't worry about it anymore, their life is over, which sucks, but a rape victim still needs to live their life and they're all torn up inside.
So, if your suggesting that death is better than surviving a rape experience you're in favour of euthanasia for them (probably even against their will), right?
And no, that's not what you said, but it can be deducted from your statement.
Um... How could you derive that from anything I said? Where in your twisted little mind did you decide that I wanted to kill rape victims? I want to kill rapists, not the victims, they need help. My entire position is that I would rather be murdered then raped.
No you are claiming people would be better of dead than raped, so he is asking if you think we should kill them. I mean you said they would be better of did you not? Really what is it, better of dead or alive?
 

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Worsle said:
Panzer_God said:
Um... How could you derive that from anything I said? Where in your twisted little mind did you decide that I wanted to kill rape victims? I want to kill rapists, not the victims, they need help. My entire position is that I would rather be murdered then raped.
No you are claiming people would be better of dead than raped, so he is asking if you think we should kill them. I mean you said they would be better of did you not? Really what is it, better of dead or alive?
Yes they are, but that's not up to me. Alive and unraped would be preferable however.
 

Ziren

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Panzer_God said:
Um... How could you derive that from anything I said? Where in your twisted little mind did you decide that I wanted to kill rape victims? I want to kill rapists, not the victims, they need help. My entire position is that I would rather be murdered then raped.
Summarizing what you said: You're better off dead than having to live after being raped. That seems pretty clear to me.
Which is of course a stupid to say, as you can't possibly rate that since you're obviously alive. People can recover from a rape experience. I've yet to see someone recover from death.

Edited for bad English.