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jtesauro

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tharwen said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
A woman cries abuse and shes a victim.

A man cries abuse and hes weak.
However,

A man sleeps with two women and he's a legend.

A woman sleeps with two men and she's a whore.
"You sucked 37 dicks?"!

I'm sorry, I agree with all of this, but I just couldn't help it. :)

-Joey
-Couldn't resist the Kevin Smith reference
 

RatRace123

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Far be it from me to question the bias of the court system, but there is a huge double standard when it comes to men and women in a domestic problem. I guess the image of a huge drunken, thick bearded, barrel chested, angry lumberjack is a more artisically pleasing representation of an evil abusive spouse, rather than a thin, crazy as hell ***** with a knife.

Still with the bias it's entirely possible for a wife to get violent and the husband to go to jail.
 
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Nurb said:

Majority of women approve of violence against men, survey finds.

More than half of women questioned at a Glasgow university said they approved of wives hitting their husbands.

The Glasgow Caledonian students were among 6,500 women surveyed from 36 universities for an international study into attitudes on domestic violence.

Of the 200 women, 60% said it was acceptable for women to hit their husbands while 35% admitted assaulting their partner.

A total o More..f 8% admitted injuring them - the highest rate in the study.

The injured men suffered bruises, cuts or broken bones.

Among European students, only English women were more likely to have carried out assaults, with 41% admitting that they had punched or kicked their partners.

However those inflicting injury was less than in Scotland, at 5%.

Just under a quarter of those in Scotland admitted there were occasions when it would be acceptable for a husband to slap his wife.

Worldwide, more than 4,800 female students approved of assaulting their partner and 2,000 admitted to pushing, shoving, slapping, throwing objects and twisting their partner's arms or hair.

The findings, printed in the Sunday Times, will be published next month in the European Journal of Criminology.

'Bottom line'

Professor Murray Straus, co-author of the study, told the paper there was a need for better rehabilitation programmes for women with violent tendencies.

"This study raises questions about why there's so much violence between partners whether they're married, cohabiting or dating," he said.

"The bottom line is that we need make the same 'big deal' about violence by women as we do about men who behave violently."

In recent years, the Scottish Executive has spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on raising awareness of domestic abuse, including a helpline for victims which received more than 20,000 calls in 2005 - an increase of 38% on the previous year.

David Smith, honorary professor of criminology at Edinburgh university and editor of the European Journal of Criminology, said he found the results "surprising".

"The number of women who admit to assaulting men is interesting as it's well known that men are more violent than woman."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/5092100.stm
Glaswegians having a tendency towards violence is like Irishmen having a tendency to get drunk.

On-topic, most of what I would say has already been covered. I have another story to pull out, though, showing how bad this double standard can get. I lost the link, unfortunately, but it details a man who called 911 while his wife was beating him (with a vase or other glass container, I believe, though I may be misremembering) and the cops showed up. And arrested him, despite both him and his two children saying that she was the one responsible. And the scratches and cuts on his face.
 

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We all know Domestic Abuse is a serious thing and is pretty bad. I'm not trying to detract from that but the way its publiscised is beginning to annoy me.

In any advert that's trying to raise awareness for abusive situations its always the man who is abusing the woman/the children/the pet or whatever else is in the room. But why is it that these adverts never (that I've seen) show the woman being the culprit instead of the victim?

You'd think living in the century that we do that people would realise (especially the awareness raising people) that anyone can be the culprit of domestic abuse, not just angry men. Of course if all adverts are considered one universe then the men could be beating the women because women seem to embarass them at every given oppurtunity, even in situations that if the roles were reversed the man would be considered a monster or, at the very least, a bit of a jerk. I've even hard conversations (by both men and women) that go something along the lines of 'a man being beaten up by a woman? what a pansy' ... I may have used less colourful language but you get the idea.

The point I'm trying to make is that it seems to be a bit of a stigma for men to suffer at the hands of an abusive woman which is insane. This can be applied to any situation where men or women are looked down upon for something which someone of the other gender could do and get away with, if you want to add your own examples, feel free.

I guess I'm wondering if I'm alone in this thought and what you all think.
http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianhealth/a/DVFactsMyths.htm
http://www.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

People in gay relationships can suffer DV too
 

Shoes

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I talked to my friend once about the whole whos sleeping with who, girl being a whore sterotype and we came to this conculsion:

At the end of the day in most situations the woman is the one with the final say in terms of having sex, meaning at any point she can call it off while a man is much more likely to stay the course.

Therefore a man having sex with multiple women = "Good job you GOT/CONVINCED multiple people to have sex with you *high five* while for a woman = "Woah you gave it up to multiple people.....

Just my two cents, also Im sorry for any spelling errors im pretty tired :)
 

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Nurb said:

Majority of women approve of violence against men, survey finds.

More than half of women questioned at a Glasgow university said they approved of wives hitting their husbands.

The Glasgow Caledonian students were among 6,500 women surveyed from 36 universities for an international study into attitudes on domestic violence.

Of the 200 women, 60% said it was acceptable for women to hit their husbands while 35% admitted assaulting their partner.

A total o More..f 8% admitted injuring them - the highest rate in the study.

The injured men suffered bruises, cuts or broken bones.

Among European students, only English women were more likely to have carried out assaults, with 41% admitting that they had punched or kicked their partners.

However those inflicting injury was less than in Scotland, at 5%.

Just under a quarter of those in Scotland admitted there were occasions when it would be acceptable for a husband to slap his wife.

Worldwide, more than 4,800 female students approved of assaulting their partner and 2,000 admitted to pushing, shoving, slapping, throwing objects and twisting their partner's arms or hair.

The findings, printed in the Sunday Times, will be published next month in the European Journal of Criminology.

'Bottom line'

Professor Murray Straus, co-author of the study, told the paper there was a need for better rehabilitation programmes for women with violent tendencies.

"This study raises questions about why there's so much violence between partners whether they're married, cohabiting or dating," he said.

"The bottom line is that we need make the same 'big deal' about violence by women as we do about men who behave violently."

In recent years, the Scottish Executive has spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on raising awareness of domestic abuse, including a helpline for victims which received more than 20,000 calls in 2005 - an increase of 38% on the previous year.

David Smith, honorary professor of criminology at Edinburgh university and editor of the European Journal of Criminology, said he found the results "surprising".

"The number of women who admit to assaulting men is interesting as it's well known that men are more violent than woman."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/5092100.stm
That sorta scares me.Knowing that some women are batshit insane like that.
But it's not a gender thing,domestic abuse.It's a mental sickness.
 

skywalkerlion

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Hey now, let's not be too rude to feminists. I'm sure there are sane feminists that aren't retarded. While I agree certain ones, mostly the vocal ones, get very annoying and their points are very biased, not all feminists are femnazis.

If that makes sense, I'm out of it :(

EDIT: Should also add I agree with the OP.
 

Kimjira19

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It's sad that all this shit happens and Women's rights activists still say they get the short end of the stick. I mean for Christs sake, they want everything men have and still keep all their privileges. Despite my last statement, I don't think there's anything a man can do that a woman isn't allowed to do except maybe volunteer to have their cock molded, and even then I bet if the woman was greedy the organization would be in court for sexism.
We get 30% lower pay on average than men working in the same position.
 

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Koganesaga said:
It's sad that all this shit happens and Women's rights activists still say they get the short end of the stick. I mean for Christs sake, they want everything men have and still keep all their privileges. Despite my last statement, I don't think there's anything a man can do that a woman isn't allowed to do except maybe volunteer to have their cock molded, and even then I bet if the woman was greedy the organization would be in court for sexism.
There are plenty of things that women aren't allowed to do that men can. Can't fight as infantry, can be a combat engineer, they're not required to sign up for selective service (be drafted). You may claim that it protects women, but many of us would prefer to be equal in all means, good and bad.

Also, I can't donate sperm (at least not my own). I'm still pissed that I'm missing out on the easy money.
 

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Kimjira19 said:
Koganesaga said:
It's sad that all this shit happens and Women's rights activists still say they get the short end of the stick. I mean for Christs sake, they want everything men have and still keep all their privileges. Despite my last statement, I don't think there's anything a man can do that a woman isn't allowed to do except maybe volunteer to have their cock molded, and even then I bet if the woman was greedy the organization would be in court for sexism.
We get 30% lower pay on average than men working in the same position.
Well that right there is blatant sexism and if you're doing the same amount of work, you're in a position to sue them for that raise, and all the lost wages of the years. Get a lawyer, and get your money.
 

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Kumori_Kio said:
Koganesaga said:
It's sad that all this shit happens and Women's rights activists still say they get the short end of the stick. I mean for Christs sake, they want everything men have and still keep all their privileges. Despite my last statement, I don't think there's anything a man can do that a woman isn't allowed to do except maybe volunteer to have their cock molded, and even then I bet if the woman was greedy the organization would be in court for sexism.
There are plenty of things that women aren't allowed to do that men can. Can't fight as infantry, can be a combat engineer, they're not required to sign up for selective service (be drafted). You may claim that it protects women, but many of us would prefer to be equal in all means, good and bad.

Also, I can't donate sperm (at least not my own). I'm still pissed that I'm missing out on the easy money.
Well the can't serve as infantry and can't be drafted is kinda a equalizer, shouldn't count that one, and you can sell your eggs so that ain't a fast one.
 

Kimjira19

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Koganesaga said:
Kimjira19 said:
Koganesaga said:
It's sad that all this shit happens and Women's rights activists still say they get the short end of the stick. I mean for Christs sake, they want everything men have and still keep all their privileges. Despite my last statement, I don't think there's anything a man can do that a woman isn't allowed to do except maybe volunteer to have their cock molded, and even then I bet if the woman was greedy the organization would be in court for sexism.
We get 30% lower pay on average than men working in the same position.
Well that right there is blatant sexism and if you're doing the same amount of work, you're in a position to sue them for that raise, and all the lost wages of the years. Get a lawyer, and get your money.
I am talking about averages in wage disparity in America. I am fortunate that my part-time job at the YMCA as a lifeguard does not have this issue. I get paid the same as any male lifeguard of equal experience/performance.
 

Kimjira19

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Koganesaga said:
Kumori_Kio said:
Koganesaga said:
It's sad that all this shit happens and Women's rights activists still say they get the short end of the stick. I mean for Christs sake, they want everything men have and still keep all their privileges. Despite my last statement, I don't think there's anything a man can do that a woman isn't allowed to do except maybe volunteer to have their cock molded, and even then I bet if the woman was greedy the organization would be in court for sexism.
There are plenty of things that women aren't allowed to do that men can. Can't fight as infantry, can be a combat engineer, they're not required to sign up for selective service (be drafted). You may claim that it protects women, but many of us would prefer to be equal in all means, good and bad.

Also, I can't donate sperm (at least not my own). I'm still pissed that I'm missing out on the easy money.
Well the can't serve as infantry and can't be drafted is kinda a equalizer, shouldn't count that one, and you can sell your eggs so that ain't a fast one.
True but women should be able to serve as infantry and be able to be drafted. That would make things pretty equal, which is what I am all about.
 

Koganesaga

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Kimjira19 said:
Koganesaga said:
Kumori_Kio said:
Koganesaga said:
It's sad that all this shit happens and Women's rights activists still say they get the short end of the stick. I mean for Christs sake, they want everything men have and still keep all their privileges. Despite my last statement, I don't think there's anything a man can do that a woman isn't allowed to do except maybe volunteer to have their cock molded, and even then I bet if the woman was greedy the organization would be in court for sexism.
There are plenty of things that women aren't allowed to do that men can. Can't fight as infantry, can be a combat engineer, they're not required to sign up for selective service (be drafted). You may claim that it protects women, but many of us would prefer to be equal in all means, good and bad.

Also, I can't donate sperm (at least not my own). I'm still pissed that I'm missing out on the easy money.
Well the can't serve as infantry and can't be drafted is kinda a equalizer, shouldn't count that one, and you can sell your eggs so that ain't a fast one.
True but women should be able to serve as infantry and be able to be drafted. That would make things pretty equal, which is what I am all about.
Well I'll give you that one, but still it's sort of circumstance and opinion. Hell if it was the other way around I'd say keep your right to fight, I ain't riskin' no draft. The only rebuttle I can offer is this, do you really want to serve in the army? If not, then there really isn't much of a point in fighting for a right the majority doesn't want.
Kimjira19 said:
Koganesaga said:
Kimjira19 said:
Koganesaga said:
It's sad that all this shit happens and Women's rights activists still say they get the short end of the stick. I mean for Christs sake, they want everything men have and still keep all their privileges. Despite my last statement, I don't think there's anything a man can do that a woman isn't allowed to do except maybe volunteer to have their cock molded, and even then I bet if the woman was greedy the organization would be in court for sexism.
We get 30% lower pay on average than men working in the same position.
Well that right there is blatant sexism and if you're doing the same amount of work, you're in a position to sue them for that raise, and all the lost wages of the years. Get a lawyer, and get your money.
I am talking about averages in wage disparity in America. I am fortunate that my part-time job at the YMCA as a lifeguard does not have this issue. I get paid the same as any male lifeguard of equal experience/performance.
Well if women choose NOT to pursue their given equal rights in this circumstance, then they will keep that below average wage, if they want to stand up and say "get with the time you miserable old fuck, cough up my owed money and give me that raise or your gonna be living in a goddamn cardboard box cause this shit will be a jury trial".
 

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Koganesaga said:
Well I'll give you that one, but still it's sort of circumstance and opinion. Hell if it was the other way around I'd say keep your right to fight, I ain't riskin' no draft. The only rebuttle I can offer is this, do you really want to serve in the army? If not, then there really isn't much of a point in fighting for a right the majority doesn't want.

Well if women choose NOT to pursue their given equal rights in this circumstance, then they will keep that below average wage, if they want to stand up and say "get with the time you miserable old fuck, cough up my owed money and give me that raise or your gonna be living in a goddamn cardboard box cause this shit will be a jury trial".
Hmmm. I do not agree with some of the conflicts we are currently involved in. However, if my country needed me to serve, then I would not hesitate to defend our ideals of equality and personal liberty. I would hope that most American women would want to preserve this country's ideals for the following generations.
True enough, if you do not pursue equality you will not get it. However, keep in mind that some of the work places this disparity occurs in are highly competitive or are positions that are "easily replaceable" and thus negotiations could end in the loss of your job.
 

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Koganesaga said:
Well I'll give you that one, but still it's sort of circumstance and opinion. Hell if it was the other way around I'd say keep your right to fight, I ain't riskin' no draft. The only rebuttle I can offer is this, do you really want to serve in the army? If not, then there really isn't much of a point in fighting for a right the majority doesn't want.

Well if women choose NOT to pursue their given equal rights in this circumstance, then they will keep that below average wage, if they want to stand up and say "get with the time you miserable old fuck, cough up my owed money and give me that raise or your gonna be living in a goddamn cardboard box cause this shit will be a jury trial".
I am in the military and I wanted to be a combat engineer. Can't do that simply because I'm female. What's so wrong with a woman willingly putting herself in harm's way so she can blow things up and make impromptu bridges?

And in my job, I didn't so much get paid less than my counterpart...as I didn't have a counterpart and they didn't want to part with their precious pennies...oh, I got my raise, all right....
 

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Kumori_Kio said:
Koganesaga said:
Well I'll give you that one, but still it's sort of circumstance and opinion. Hell if it was the other way around I'd say keep your right to fight, I ain't riskin' no draft. The only rebuttle I can offer is this, do you really want to serve in the army? If not, then there really isn't much of a point in fighting for a right the majority doesn't want.

Well if women choose NOT to pursue their given equal rights in this circumstance, then they will keep that below average wage, if they want to stand up and say "get with the time you miserable old fuck, cough up my owed money and give me that raise or your gonna be living in a goddamn cardboard box cause this shit will be a jury trial".
I am in the military and I wanted to be a combat engineer. Can't do that simply because I'm female. What's so wrong with a woman willingly putting herself in harm's way so she can blow things up and make impromptu bridges?

And in my job, I didn't so much get paid less than my counterpart...as I didn't have a counterpart and they didn't want to part with their precious pennies...oh, I got my raise, all right....
Well ok then I'll concede this one, if you really want to be combat engineer. As a defense to the U.S. military, I'm sure their problem is with the fact that not many women would want to, and with a whole bunch of men that haven't seen their wives and girlfriends in months......well you put two and two together and see that they'll have to deal with some legal issues.
 

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Koganesaga said:
Well ok then I'll concede this one, if you really want to be combat engineer. As a defense to the U.S. military, I'm sure their problem is with the fact that not many women would want to, and with a whole bunch of men that haven't seen their wives and girlfriends in months......well you put two and two together and see that they'll have to deal with some legal issues.
It's only the same legal issues that exist everywhere else in the military. There aren't large numbers of women and anyone stationed overseas is going to be away from their wives or girlfriends for months. I'm the only female in a commo section with over 20 people, that's not any less risky (sexually) than being with an infantry unit.
 

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Kumori_Kio said:
It's only the same legal issues that exist everywhere else in the military. There aren't large numbers of women and anyone stationed overseas is going to be away from their wives or girlfriends for months. I'm the only female in a commo section with over 20 people, that's not any less risky (sexually) than being with an infantry unit.
Well I haven't the slightest ides what a commo is unless it's a communications section, and even if it is 20+ people you're not overseas are you? I won't elaborate until I'm sure of which.
 

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tharwen said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
A woman cries abuse and shes a victim.

A man cries abuse and hes weak.
However,

A man sleeps with two women and he's a legend.

A woman sleeps with two men and she's a whore.
Sadly if a man cries abuse he is a weak, course a man isn't a man if he can't suck it up, and hence the stigma of society. Also I wouldn't call that woman a whore, I'd call her eager and see if she felt like gettin' funky.