You can't hit me, you're the woman!

[BGH122]

This is topic that's bothered me for sometime. Last semester,a girl in my english class wrote a thesis on Domestic Abuse and highlighted how very skewed the perception on it really is and it unnerved me to hear those statistics about female on male abuse.

As for the whole never hit a girl thing, my philosophy is never strike first in any case, no matter what gender your aggressor is, if you hit first, people automaically blame you. I have no qualms about hitting a girl if she struck at me first. If she's my equal then there shouldn't be a problem with me doing so.

What the heck does this have to do with an English class?

That's yet another thing about English Literature education in the UK which annoyed me: I was forced to do a year of analysing anti-racist government propaganda (I'm honestly not racist, but this has fuck all to do with English Literature) and a further year of feminist texts ... Seriously, we may as well just call it a Women's Studies minor.

 

[Disaster Button]

This is topic that's bothered me for sometime. Last semester,a girl in my english class wrote a thesis on Domestic Abuse and highlighted how very skewed the perception on it really is and it unnerved me to hear those statistics about female on male abuse.

As for the whole never hit a girl thing, my philosophy is never strike first in any case, no matter what gender your aggressor is, if you hit first, people automaically blame you. I have no qualms about hitting a girl if she struck at me first. If she's my equal then there shouldn't be a problem with me doing so.

I agree with your pholosophy entirely. Sadly the only girl that sounds like the one you mentioned is my mother.. so yeah.

 

[Disaster Button]

This is topic that's bothered me for sometime. Last semester,a girl in my english class wrote a thesis on Domestic Abuse and highlighted how very skewed the perception on it really is and it unnerved me to hear those statistics about female on male abuse.

As for the whole never hit a girl thing, my philosophy is never strike first in any case, no matter what gender your aggressor is, if you hit first, people automaically blame you. I have no qualms about hitting a girl if she struck at me first. If she's my equal then there shouldn't be a problem with me doing so.

What the heck does this have to do with an English class?

That's yet another thing about English Literature education in the UK which annoyed me: I was forced to do a year of analysing anti-racist government propaganda (I'm honestly not racist, but this has fuck all to do with English Literature) and a further year of feminist texts ... Seriously, we may as well just call it a Women's Studies minor.

Essay writing skills are part of an English Class. I'm guessing that's why he mentioned it, just to frame the point of his story.

 

[BGH122]

This is topic that's bothered me for sometime. Last semester,a girl in my english class wrote a thesis on Domestic Abuse and highlighted how very skewed the perception on it really is and it unnerved me to hear those statistics about female on male abuse.

As for the whole never hit a girl thing, my philosophy is never strike first in any case, no matter what gender your aggressor is, if you hit first, people automaically blame you. I have no qualms about hitting a girl if she struck at me first. If she's my equal then there shouldn't be a problem with me doing so.

I agree with your pholosophy entirely. Sadly the only girl that sounds like the one you mentioned is my mother.. so yeah.

I also agree, although I did once know a gorgeous girl my age who was equally level headed ... Though let's not go down that tract again.

This is topic that's bothered me for sometime. Last semester,a girl in my english class wrote a thesis on Domestic Abuse and highlighted how very skewed the perception on it really is and it unnerved me to hear those statistics about female on male abuse.

As for the whole never hit a girl thing, my philosophy is never strike first in any case, no matter what gender your aggressor is, if you hit first, people automaically blame you. I have no qualms about hitting a girl if she struck at me first. If she's my equal then there shouldn't be a problem with me doing so.

What the heck does this have to do with an English class?

That's yet another thing about English Literature education in the UK which annoyed me: I was forced to do a year of analysing anti-racist government propaganda (I'm honestly not racist, but this has fuck all to do with English Literature) and a further year of feminist texts ... Seriously, we may as well just call it a Women's Studies minor.

Essay writing skills are part of an English Class.

Depends what you mean by 'English Class', English Literature shouldn't just pick random themes unrelated to a specific text. English Language should study semiotics and linguistics, so again this doesn't appear to apply.

EDIT: I'm going to stop lurking this thread now and go to bed. It's been both fun to meet like-minded guys and girls and irritating to meet those whose ideas were ill-formed.

 

[Samcanuck]

Well, in my opinion, any guy beat up by his girlfriend is weak.

If somebodies beating on you, fight back. If its a women, all bets of not hitting a girl are off, and you show her that guy's are physically stronger.

I have heard of a guy or two being beaten up by there wives, and I just dont understand it, I have never been intimidated by a female. If you can't stick up for yourself, get out of the relationship...simple.

And for both genders, if you are being abused by your spouse or relation, and you don't get out of it, I think you're pathetic in general. Sorry, but these kinds of people need to grow a pair.

Its never as easy to "just get out" as you make it sound. There can be any number of reasons why people can't get out: children, emotional weakness, fear, lack of anywhere to go are just a few reasons why people can't just leave.

And to say men are physically stronger than women is a generalisation. Not all men are physically stronger than women, especially those afflicted with physical conditions.

So how are any of those reasons a compromise to abuse? With all of those, even kid's, an adult can survive just fine in the real world (hell my sister in law moved from England to Canada with her daughter from an emotionally abusive marriage, its called divorce...so did one of my aunts in an abusive relationship and both parties have fully developed and loved children). People live without a spouse with kids throughout the world...so I do not understand your argument. In my opinion they are still very pathetic ESPECIALLY if they keep their children in that enviroment. All your other choice show me no reason on how thats a compromise to abuse what-so-ever.

I guess its a generalisation. I mean their are males who have below average strength or are mentally handycapped. But an average man is going to develope more muscle mass...so my generalisation is not far off. Either way though, those individuals are weak. What, they dont have the mental or physicle fortitude to fight back, stick up for themselves, get help or leave...and they are somehow strong? No, they really arent.

Its not so much a compromise, its more like the person being so terrified or unable to get far enough a way or things like that which prevent a permanent escape.

People will sometimes stay if they have children because they might not think themself able to look after their child by themselves if they leave their partner due to no money and being emotionally weak after the abuse. So instead they stay and protect their child and endure the abuse so their child will still have a home, even if it is a bad one. Its barely the lesser of two evils.

Due to suffering abuse, or maybe a pre existing condition, people may lack the confidence, the will, the strength or the ability to actually stand up for themselves and leave. Deep down they may even believe they deserve the abuse and actually not want to leave.

They could also fear that if they can't get far enough away then their partner will find them and abuse them worse, whether this would actually happen or not is sort of irrelevant as the fear is still there. The one being abused may also fear that if they get out they will have no one to support them. Just because your sister got out to Canada doesn't mean that everyone suffering abuse will, I'm assuming your sister had a family to support her or had money and had the backing of the courts if she was able to divorce her partner. Not everyone has the same situation, and will more often than not lack any support system (familial or monetary) making them unable to leave the situation.

Look, I have never personally been in these situations. I guess I have an eye for seeing the forest for the sleeze. But I also know strong women who have gotten out of these situations. None of your arguments (espcecially the fear one) seem so large that they cannot be overcome in some way, shape or form. We live in a society that openly communicates the options to get out of an abusive situation. If a person can't take one step towards that for their (and possibly there childrens) wellbeing, to me, that is ignorant and very weak.

My sister in law did in fact have her families support (Back in Canada...not in England)...however she compromised on her own for full child custody, just as long as the ex didn't have to pay child support. The point is, its the real world, their are always other options even if its breaking down your own emotional barriers. Your opinion differs from mine, and you probably have some backing behind that, but I can't think of a situation in North America where their are no options to get out of an abusive reletionship that you got yourself into.

It just reaks of pathetic to me, especially if you allow your children to grow up in that enviroment. The question is not however if it is right or not. The question is in how things are perceived. And I feel the perception of weakness (especially in the case of a male) is accurate. Abuse is wrong, and just being submissive to it IS weakness.

Well I'm not getting into an argument about OH MAH GAH YOUR OPINION IS WRONG because that'd be pretty pointless because we clearly have very different opinions on whether or not being abused makes you weak or not. Not letting this devolve into a pointless argument would probably be a good thing for this thread at this point.

Do you really think I'd devolve the conversation into that? Yes, I know our opinions differ...but still, succumbing to fear after a situation has taken place after time for reflection has occured is the definition of weakness to me. I don't understand how it cannot be so. Would you mind then explaining why you feel differently?

I understand your problem may be with non-equality of perception between genders in our society...but we live in an imperfect society where the general consenses is based on the qualities of the average person. I for one follow this perception of weakness for the reasons I have stated. If you are wondering why society see's men being abused by women as weakness, my rational is probably not far off from the reasoning behind the view.

And because anything a man can do, a women can...they both suffer from the same weakness if the tables were turned (and typically are). But since I am a man, and understand the overpowering physical strength within me, I cannot see a man being anything but weak if they dont do something about an abusive situation (like say, throw a hard right right back into her face when she's beating you up). Savy?

 

[Disaster Button]

This is topic that's bothered me for sometime. Last semester,a girl in my english class wrote a thesis on Domestic Abuse and highlighted how very skewed the perception on it really is and it unnerved me to hear those statistics about female on male abuse.

As for the whole never hit a girl thing, my philosophy is never strike first in any case, no matter what gender your aggressor is, if you hit first, people automaically blame you. I have no qualms about hitting a girl if she struck at me first. If she's my equal then there shouldn't be a problem with me doing so.

What the heck does this have to do with an English class?

That's yet another thing about English Literature education in the UK which annoyed me: I was forced to do a year of analysing anti-racist government propaganda (I'm honestly not racist, but this has fuck all to do with English Literature) and a further year of feminist texts ... Seriously, we may as well just call it a Women's Studies minor.

Essay writing skills are part of an English Class.

Depends what you mean by 'English Class', English Literature shouldn't just pick random themes unrelated to a specific text. English Language should study semiotics and linguistics, so again this doesn't appear to apply.

Essay writing skills apply to both actually. What the essay is on is more likely to be divided into Language and Literature. However Literature does explore themes of texts through the analyisation of symbolism and portrayals. Language explores how different genders converse through the understanding of Gender Theory. Depending on the specifics of the essay written this could have taken place in either of the subject divisions, or in a mixed lesson.

 

[riskroWe]

If a woman starts some physical violence against a man the idea is that he's stronger than her and he can overpower her and restrain her, with no need to come to blows. It's somewhere between a generalisation and a fact. I mean I'm a pretty scrawny guy and I can still overpower most of the women I attack in the street.

 

[BGH122]

This is topic that's bothered me for sometime. Last semester,a girl in my english class wrote a thesis on Domestic Abuse and highlighted how very skewed the perception on it really is and it unnerved me to hear those statistics about female on male abuse.

As for the whole never hit a girl thing, my philosophy is never strike first in any case, no matter what gender your aggressor is, if you hit first, people automaically blame you. I have no qualms about hitting a girl if she struck at me first. If she's my equal then there shouldn't be a problem with me doing so.

What the heck does this have to do with an English class?

That's yet another thing about English Literature education in the UK which annoyed me: I was forced to do a year of analysing anti-racist government propaganda (I'm honestly not racist, but this has fuck all to do with English Literature) and a further year of feminist texts ... Seriously, we may as well just call it a Women's Studies minor.

Essay writing skills are part of an English Class.

Depends what you mean by 'English Class', English Literature shouldn't just pick random themes unrelated to a specific text. English Language should study semiotics and linguistics, so again this doesn't appear to apply.

Essay writing skills apply to both actually. What the essay is on is more likely to be divided into Language and Literature. However Literature does explore themes of texts through the analyisation of symbolism and portrayals. Language explores how different genders converse through the understanding of Gender Theory. Depending on the specifics of the essay written this could have taken place in either of the subject divisions, or in a mixed lesson.

True! However, I cannot imagine a book in Literature which would require the student to make an analysis of real-life domestic violence, this just seems irrelevant. I've never studied language so I can't comment there. Anyway, I'm off now. Ta ta.

If a woman starts some physical violence against a man the idea is that he's stronger than her and he can overpower her and restrain her, with no need to come to blows. It's somewhere between a generalisation and a fact. I mean I'm a pretty scrawny guy and I can still overpower most of the women I attack in the street.

You attack women in the street?! Why!?

 

[Pingieking]

A woman cries abuse and shes a victim.

A man cries abuse and hes weak.

It gets worse when the one being abusive uses this stereotype to their advantage.

We called that double standards.

And as we all know, modern society is all about double standards

 

[Disaster Button]

Well, in my opinion, any guy beat up by his girlfriend is weak.

If somebodies beating on you, fight back. If its a women, all bets of not hitting a girl are off, and you show her that guy's are physically stronger.

I have heard of a guy or two being beaten up by there wives, and I just dont understand it, I have never been intimidated by a female. If you can't stick up for yourself, get out of the relationship...simple.

And for both genders, if you are being abused by your spouse or relation, and you don't get out of it, I think you're pathetic in general. Sorry, but these kinds of people need to grow a pair.

Its never as easy to "just get out" as you make it sound. There can be any number of reasons why people can't get out: children, emotional weakness, fear, lack of anywhere to go are just a few reasons why people can't just leave.

And to say men are physically stronger than women is a generalisation. Not all men are physically stronger than women, especially those afflicted with physical conditions.

So how are any of those reasons a compromise to abuse? With all of those, even kid's, an adult can survive just fine in the real world (hell my sister in law moved from England to Canada with her daughter from an emotionally abusive marriage, its called divorce...so did one of my aunts in an abusive relationship and both parties have fully developed and loved children). People live without a spouse with kids throughout the world...so I do not understand your argument. In my opinion they are still very pathetic ESPECIALLY if they keep their children in that enviroment. All your other choice show me no reason on how thats a compromise to abuse what-so-ever.

I guess its a generalisation. I mean their are males who have below average strength or are mentally handycapped. But an average man is going to develope more muscle mass...so my generalisation is not far off. Either way though, those individuals are weak. What, they dont have the mental or physicle fortitude to fight back, stick up for themselves, get help or leave...and they are somehow strong? No, they really arent.

Its not so much a compromise, its more like the person being so terrified or unable to get far enough a way or things like that which prevent a permanent escape.

People will sometimes stay if they have children because they might not think themself able to look after their child by themselves if they leave their partner due to no money and being emotionally weak after the abuse. So instead they stay and protect their child and endure the abuse so their child will still have a home, even if it is a bad one. Its barely the lesser of two evils.

Due to suffering abuse, or maybe a pre existing condition, people may lack the confidence, the will, the strength or the ability to actually stand up for themselves and leave. Deep down they may even believe they deserve the abuse and actually not want to leave.

They could also fear that if they can't get far enough away then their partner will find them and abuse them worse, whether this would actually happen or not is sort of irrelevant as the fear is still there. The one being abused may also fear that if they get out they will have no one to support them. Just because your sister got out to Canada doesn't mean that everyone suffering abuse will, I'm assuming your sister had a family to support her or had money and had the backing of the courts if she was able to divorce her partner. Not everyone has the same situation, and will more often than not lack any support system (familial or monetary) making them unable to leave the situation.

Look, I have never personally been in these situations. I guess I have an eye for seeing the forest for the sleeze. But I also know strong women who have gotten out of these situations. None of your arguments (espcecially the fear one) seem so large that they cannot be overcome in some way, shape or form. We live in a society that openly communicates the options to get out of an abusive situation. If a person can't take one step towards that for their (and possibly there childrens) wellbeing, to me, that is ignorant and very weak.

My sister in law did in fact have her families support (Back in Canada...not in England)...however she compromised on her own for full child custody, just as long as the ex didn't have to pay child support. The point is, its the real world, their are always other options even if its breaking down your own emotional barriers. Your opinion differs from mine, and you probably have some backing behind that, but I can't think of a situation in North America where their are no options to get out of an abusive reletionship that you got yourself into.

It just reaks of pathetic to me, especially if you allow your children to grow up in that enviroment. The question is not however if it is right or not. The question is in how things are perceived. And I feel the perception of weakness (especially in the case of a male) is accurate. Abuse is wrong, and just being submissive to it IS weakness.

Well I'm not getting into an argument about OH MAH GAH YOUR OPINION IS WRONG because that'd be pretty pointless because we clearly have very different opinions on whether or not being abused makes you weak or not. Not letting this devolve into a pointless argument would probably be a good thing for this thread at this point.

Do you really think I'd devolve the conversation into that? Yes, I know our opinions differ...but still, succumbing to fear after a situation has taken place after time for reflection has occured is the definition of weakness to me. I don't understand how it cannot be so. Would you mind then explaining why you feel differently?

I understand your problem may be with non-equality of the perception between genders in society...but we live in an imperfect society where the general consenses is based on the qualities of the average person. I for one follow this perception of weakness for the reasons I have stated. If you are wondering why society see's men being abused by women as weakness, my rational is probably not far off from the reasoning behind the view.

And because anything a man can do, a women can...they both suffer from the same weakness if the tables were turned (and typically are). But since I am a man, and understand the overpowering physical strength within me, I cannot see a man being anything but weak if they dont do something about an abusive situation (like say, throw a hard right right back into her face when she's beating you up). Savy?

I didn't actually mean that any resulting arguement would be your fault, I was actually making a pre emptive move to try and make sure I didn't turn it into that or to make sure it wasn't turned into that by a combinaiton of both of us.

I've explained why I don't see as succumbing to abuse as weakness but you don't see it the same way I do because of different experiences or beliefs, that's not to say that's a bad thing either. Developing a fear in this situation is usually after a long duration of heavily sustained emotional and physical abuse which effectively cripples any rational thought and would prevent the person from thinking straight regardless of how level headed they were previously. This coupled with the fact that the abusive partner may seek them out would be terrifying for the victim, regardless of gender. This will prevent a lot of introspection or reflection and may even twist it to the point where the victim truly believes they deserve the treatment they are recieving.

While you may see the person as being weak for being scared I see it as a normal response and understand that because of the fear they experience that they won't be able to escape either because of fears caused by broken thinking (caused by the abuse) or fears of what will actually happen.

I guess in a sense they are weak, but its more of having weakness forced upon them due to the humiliation, pain and cirppling effects of the abuse than being weak because they are unable to stop the abuse.

 

[hittite]

Spoiler

If any of you thought it was inappropriate for me to inject humor into an otherwise very serious conversation, sue me, it's what I do.

OT: There's no justification for abuse, either physical or psychological, no matter how many X chromosomes they have.

 

[Samcanuck]

Well, in my opinion, any guy beat up by his girlfriend is weak.

If somebodies beating on you, fight back. If its a women, all bets of not hitting a girl are off, and you show her that guy's are physically stronger.

I have heard of a guy or two being beaten up by there wives, and I just dont understand it, I have never been intimidated by a female. If you can't stick up for yourself, get out of the relationship...simple.

And for both genders, if you are being abused by your spouse or relation, and you don't get out of it, I think you're pathetic in general. Sorry, but these kinds of people need to grow a pair.

Its never as easy to "just get out" as you make it sound. There can be any number of reasons why people can't get out: children, emotional weakness, fear, lack of anywhere to go are just a few reasons why people can't just leave.

And to say men are physically stronger than women is a generalisation. Not all men are physically stronger than women, especially those afflicted with physical conditions.

So how are any of those reasons a compromise to abuse? With all of those, even kid's, an adult can survive just fine in the real world (hell my sister in law moved from England to Canada with her daughter from an emotionally abusive marriage, its called divorce...so did one of my aunts in an abusive relationship and both parties have fully developed and loved children). People live without a spouse with kids throughout the world...so I do not understand your argument. In my opinion they are still very pathetic ESPECIALLY if they keep their children in that enviroment. All your other choice show me no reason on how thats a compromise to abuse what-so-ever.

I guess its a generalisation. I mean their are males who have below average strength or are mentally handycapped. But an average man is going to develope more muscle mass...so my generalisation is not far off. Either way though, those individuals are weak. What, they dont have the mental or physicle fortitude to fight back, stick up for themselves, get help or leave...and they are somehow strong? No, they really arent.

Its not so much a compromise, its more like the person being so terrified or unable to get far enough a way or things like that which prevent a permanent escape.

People will sometimes stay if they have children because they might not think themself able to look after their child by themselves if they leave their partner due to no money and being emotionally weak after the abuse. So instead they stay and protect their child and endure the abuse so their child will still have a home, even if it is a bad one. Its barely the lesser of two evils.

Due to suffering abuse, or maybe a pre existing condition, people may lack the confidence, the will, the strength or the ability to actually stand up for themselves and leave. Deep down they may even believe they deserve the abuse and actually not want to leave.

They could also fear that if they can't get far enough away then their partner will find them and abuse them worse, whether this would actually happen or not is sort of irrelevant as the fear is still there. The one being abused may also fear that if they get out they will have no one to support them. Just because your sister got out to Canada doesn't mean that everyone suffering abuse will, I'm assuming your sister had a family to support her or had money and had the backing of the courts if she was able to divorce her partner. Not everyone has the same situation, and will more often than not lack any support system (familial or monetary) making them unable to leave the situation.

Look, I have never personally been in these situations. I guess I have an eye for seeing the forest for the sleeze. But I also know strong women who have gotten out of these situations. None of your arguments (espcecially the fear one) seem so large that they cannot be overcome in some way, shape or form. We live in a society that openly communicates the options to get out of an abusive situation. If a person can't take one step towards that for their (and possibly there childrens) wellbeing, to me, that is ignorant and very weak.

My sister in law did in fact have her families support (Back in Canada...not in England)...however she compromised on her own for full child custody, just as long as the ex didn't have to pay child support. The point is, its the real world, their are always other options even if its breaking down your own emotional barriers. Your opinion differs from mine, and you probably have some backing behind that, but I can't think of a situation in North America where their are no options to get out of an abusive reletionship that you got yourself into.

It just reaks of pathetic to me, especially if you allow your children to grow up in that enviroment. The question is not however if it is right or not. The question is in how things are perceived. And I feel the perception of weakness (especially in the case of a male) is accurate. Abuse is wrong, and just being submissive to it IS weakness.

Well I'm not getting into an argument about OH MAH GAH YOUR OPINION IS WRONG because that'd be pretty pointless because we clearly have very different opinions on whether or not being abused makes you weak or not. Not letting this devolve into a pointless argument would probably be a good thing for this thread at this point.

Do you really think I'd devolve the conversation into that? Yes, I know our opinions differ...but still, succumbing to fear after a situation has taken place after time for reflection has occured is the definition of weakness to me. I don't understand how it cannot be so. Would you mind then explaining why you feel differently?

I understand your problem may be with non-equality of the perception between genders in society...but we live in an imperfect society where the general consenses is based on the qualities of the average person. I for one follow this perception of weakness for the reasons I have stated. If you are wondering why society see's men being abused by women as weakness, my rational is probably not far off from the reasoning behind the view.

And because anything a man can do, a women can...they both suffer from the same weakness if the tables were turned (and typically are). But since I am a man, and understand the overpowering physical strength within me, I cannot see a man being anything but weak if they dont do something about an abusive situation (like say, throw a hard right right back into her face when she's beating you up). Savy?

I didn't actually mean that any resulting arguement would be your fault, I was actually making a pre emptive move to try and make sure I didn't turn it into that or to make sure it wasn't turned into that by a combinaiton of both of us.

I've explained why I don't see as succumbing to abuse as weakness but you don't see it the same way I do because of different experiences or beliefs, that's not to say that's a bad thing either. Developing a fear in this situation is usually after a long duration of heavily sustained emotional and physical abuse which effectively cripples any rational thought and would prevent the person from thinking straight regardless of how level headed they were previously. This coupled with the fact that the abusive partner may seek them out would be terrifying for the victim, regardless of gender. This will prevent a lot of introspection or reflection and may even twist it to the point where the victim truly believes they deserve the treatment they are recieving.

While you may see the person as being weak for being scared I see it as a normal response and understand that because of the fear they experience that they won't be able to escape either because of fears caused by broken thinking (caused by the abuse) or fears of what will actually happen.

I guess in a sense they are weak, but its more of having weakness forced upon them due to the humiliation, pain and cirppling effects of the abuse than being weak because they are unable to stop the abuse.

Well, I can see where you are coming from. I am fine with agreeing to disagree since it is (as we've both said) just a perception. Fair enough...well, gotta go, good talking with yah.

 

[Roxas1359]

Spoiler

If any of you thought it was inappropriate for me to inject humor into an otherwise very serious conversation, sue me, it's what I do.

OT: There's no justification for abuse, either physical or psychological, no matter how many X chromosomes they have.

Rooster Teeth shows the message very well.

 

[Master_of_Oldskool]

People have and always will think that men have to be stronger than women. Even in today's enlightened society (shyeah, right), these gender stereotypes will remain, because people are just too fragging stupid to give them up. In fact, I'm going to go one step further and say that, since we're increasingly aware of the fact that women can abuse men, we're holding onto these steretypes purely for the sake of being able to humiliate people more often.

 

[dodo1331]

There's a lot of these double standards. A woman abusing a man is always the man's fault or is ignored entirely.

A man sexually harassing a woman? This gets falsely accused all the time. I've seen people lose their jobs because of things they never did because a girl wanted to get back at them. But a woman sexually harassing a man? No one cares.

Men also never get kids in custody cases unless the woman is insane.

The fact is that the 21st century has not gotten rid of racism and sexism. It has just turned the tables onto the race and gender that has been dishing out the racism and sexism for centuries, which happens to be white and male. Good thing I'm only one of those, or else I'd be in deep trouble.

 

[Zedzero]

A woman cries abuse and shes a victim.

A man cries abuse and hes weak.

This. Um...to add more to avoid mods on my ass for short answer. Space filler? That good, good. I'm done. Seriously that is what I would say. I don't need to say more do I. Oh come on now, I need a real answer...fine.....um...abuse is bad mmmkay.