you know what escapist, the wii actually is this gens PS2

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

I bought the PS2 recently just because I loved its games so much when I had a different one in the past, and I'm a committed next-gen-er.

The Wii on the other hand, I wouldn't even call next-gen. It also doesn't have that many good games. All I know about is Super Mario Galaxy. Also, how often is the Wii played? I hear about people owning the Wii because it "looked interesting", but then they always follow it up by saying that they left it in a corner of a room, gathering dust.

The same thing happened to mine, whilst I love playing my PS2, and continually find games I need to buy for it.

 

[Julianking93]

...you're kidding right?

 

[McNubbin42]

The PS2 had all the Ratchet and Clank games as well as the Jak and Daxter series. Both of those were (and still are) great in my opinion.

 

[feebstalicious93]

only based on sales

 

[Treblaine]

Umm...the PS2 had some of the best third party support I've ever seen in consoles, the Wii has tons and tons of shovelware and big name developers who don't want to get any where near the system.....how is this again?

Hmm what do you mean by "third party support".

Do you mean that Sony supported and helped many third party companies make games for the PS2 (they didn't do that very much) or that these Third Party developers SUPPORTED the PS2 platform by releasing so many games for it.

Wi's strength this generation is with first party games as it seems that only Nintendo TRULY understands the Wii market, they type of people they are selling to and the type of games they need to sell.

Though third Party has not been a complete failure, consider:
-Red Steel 2
-Resident Evil Chronicles Series
-Resident Evil 4
-Murumasa: Demon Blade
-House of the Dead
-Epic Mickey

But Why can't a console stand alone on first party games? Almost all the games worth getting for the PS3 are published or produced by Sony. One reason I find Xbox 360 such a disappointment is Microsoft's severe lack of first party support, leaning WAY too much on third party games that are inevitably multiplatform and inevitably far better on PC (mass Effect, L4D, MW2, etc).

 

[WaywardHaymaker]

The PS2 kicked ass back in the day. What are you on about?

Come to think of it, the PS2 STILL kicks ass... More ass than the Wii, anyway. Countless great games on the PS2, whereas the Wii's great games are really limited.

 

[Treblaine]

I remember the game 'Black' being the PS2's final hurrah. It was definitely a better console graphically than some people give it credit for.

that game is graphically better than most of the games out this gen.

keyword: most.

the wii doesn't even have HD for christ sake. I know it isn't important, but if you want to play monster hunter tri on a 40 inch HDTV then your going to have problems visually.

How far do you sit from your 40-inch screen? If it is around 11 feet and you won't even be able to see any more detail than 480p no matter how high the resolution on screen is. You need to sit about 8 feet from a 40 inch screen to see 720p ("HD" console resolution) further away you get, the less resolving ability. That's the limit of 20:20 vision. It's all based on the Lechner distance.

For so many people wii's "measly" 480p max-resolution is fine as people sit so far away from some quite moderate sized HDTVs they couldn't appreciate much higher resolution. With a 32-inch - a very popular HDTV screen size - sit only 9 feet away and even 1080p with a 1080p blu-ray, it simply will look no better than a DVD's 480p resolution. This is why DVDs are still selling, why the mass market still don't see the appeal of Blu-ray... their HDTVs are too small and 32 inch is average size of HDTVs sold and average viewing distance is still 9 feet:

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5261817&isnumber=5261733

For example, from a viewing distance of 10 feet you'd need a 75-inch screen (!) to actually resolve all the detail of 1080p blu-ray movie. But not a problem with Desktop PC, short viewing distance means you only need a 20-inch for 1080p.

(another thing to consider about Wii is it's not that Wii game are selling cheaper, it's the "HD consoles" that are selling more expensive! Remember, PS2, Xbox, Gamecube and PC were and remain $45-50 / £25-30 while PS3 and 360 took a chance with pushing it up to +$60 + premium DLC. Wii just stayed where the market had always been at $50-50. Everyone seems all to easy to accept when the heavy hitter corporations set the new standard price for new games but that's not how pricing works in a free market)

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Is anyone else just plain offended by this assertion?

The PS2 is my all-time favorite console. The third party support was unprecedented, and the resulting mass of fantastic and original games is unrivaled in console history.

The Wii is a gimmick fueled by a small handful of legitimately good first party games, which still trade largely on the past successes of Nintendo's eminently recognizable franchises.

I can't think of two more disparate consoles. The only thing they have in common is raw sales success, and even that came from radically different demographics.

 

[zehydra]

The PS2 is still better than the Wii. Can display better graphics too.

What was your point, again?

Wait? Can it really? Source?