Well, you have a lot of rhetorical questions there, so I'll let most of them be, but I may try to put out my point of view a bit if that's alright (and I assume it is because this is the internet after all). As for the question you actually did ask: misanthropy I would classify as bad because it would necessarily mean that you hate yourself, and doing that is absolutely silly. Humans are beautiful (maybe not to ourselves, and my next argument is slightly counter-intuitive/can't be made I suppose?) I think if looked at from aesthetics that are removed from our understanding of them (except we technically can't see something from outside of ourselves). I think the bottom line I'm trying to get down to is that if you sit and think about anything for too long, it starts to lose its meaning and starts to seem disgusting, I think. So when we sit and think about the human condition as humans, we start to see it as disgusting and unsettling and then start to hate it because we quite literally cannot escape it. Dying is only a cessation, it's not an escape because sensing nothing is not the same as sensing things and caring/thinking nothing about them.tomtom94 said:Okay, seriously, when did we as a community collectively become so emo?
I swear we've had more topics in the last month about teenagers, and especially teenage relationships, pretty much existing so that people can go on and feel smug and superior while belittling them.
This is bullshit.
There is a subtle difference between a stupid idea (a girl getting pregnant at 14 on purpose / as a result of alcohol) and unfortunate circumstances (a girl getting pregnant at 14 because her boyfriend was a prick who didn't use contraception). It really angers me when people fail and at times even refuse to make this distinction.
There was one particular thread on "young love" that especially annoyed me (can't remember the name though), because half of it was filled with people moaning about unrequited crushes and much of the other half with people saying that it was pointless because it never worked out and wishing people would stop. By far the worst one though is that people assume it only happens to stupid people who can't control their feelings. (I'm paraphrasing but sense this is not an uncommon viewpoint)
I've spent this weekend trying to comfort a female friend of mine who split up from her boyfriend of two years or so. Now, maybe it's because she hasn't gone through it before, and maybe it's because her body isn't able to deal with all the hormones and issues of a break-up, but that doesn't make it any less real and it certainly doesn't mean she can just stop feeling it. People at a young age need to experience things like this, and as they do so they'll need support, which is why it needs offering.
More to the point, this girl is 17 next month and got A*s in most of her GCSEs. She is not stupid and to assume that youngsters in love are is childish. She is just dealing with something unknown that carries with it, as Cracked.com are frequent to relate, withdrawal symptoms similar to those of cocaine.
TL; dr: PLEASE can we just cheer the fuck up as a community? I know we tend to attract the nerdy types with all the nerd stereotypes attached but it's been really bad recently.
Oh, and for discussion value, um... Misanthropy, good or bad?
Oh, definitely. And sadly, they give everyone else a bad name.OmniscientOstrich said:Ah yes, fair enough, although rather than nihilists/misanthropists I think those people are much more easily defined as arseholes.Ironic Pirate said:I don't mind Nihilists/misanthropists necessarily, I hate the ones that spout on about it for now reason. Like, I was having a conversation about the best time to pet a cat (after they've been lying in the sun about they're all sleepy and warm) and someone else started going off about how we shouldn't be happy, and that there wasn't a point to it. It's like as soon as he saw happiness he was like "well fuck, I'm bad at being happy, so you shouldn't be, either", and it was annoying.
When did nerd become bad? And you do realise you're complaining about people complaining all the time?tomtom94 said:TL; dr: PLEASE can we just cheer the fuck up as a community? I know we tend to attract the nerdy types with all the nerd stereotypes attached but it's been really bad recently.
Misanthropy, for lack of a better word, is good. It is right. It works. It clarifies, cuts through, and captures, the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Misanthropy, in all of its forms; for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge of mankind and misanthopy, you mark my words, will not only save the Escapist, but that other malfunctioning product called the Internet.Oh, and for discussion value, um... Misanthropy, good or bad?
SO wait.... the upward surge in humanity is noooot because we all started working together in society and stopped slaving people and declaring crusades but because we all started hating each other a little bit more? Is this how we cure aids? Nice? Misanthropes probably think and or want people to see them like this.The_root_of_all_evil said:When did nerd become bad? And you do realise you're complaining about people complaining all the time?tomtom94 said:TL; dr: PLEASE can we just cheer the fuck up as a community? I know we tend to attract the nerdy types with all the nerd stereotypes attached but it's been really bad recently.
Misanthropy, for lack of a better word, is good. It is right. It works. It clarifies, cuts through, and captures, the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Misanthropy, in all of its forms; for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge of mankind and misanthopy, you mark my words, will not only save the Escapist, but that other malfunctioning product called the Internet.Oh, and for discussion value, um... Misanthropy, good or bad?
I had the strong urge to mindlessly insult you. But i wont. And im sorry for even considering it. Im going to take a deep breath. And ask a few honest questions. Maybe im wrong about misanthropes. Can you help me a bit here?Immortallix said:I think your example is a bit bad. I'm a misanthrope because of other shit not related to your example of teen bullshit. These reasons aren't all that much personal, as much as a look at people and humanity as a whole. So you could also say that I'm a cynic & nihilist too. Our governments suck, and we are destroying the planet. People HAVE to prove themselves.
What does hate cause? Wars.BiscuitTrouser said:SO wait.... the upward surge in humanity is noooot because we all started working together in society and stopped slaving people and declaring crusades but because we all started hating each other a little bit more?
That's for Greed. Just think of how much those people will pay not to die.Is this how we cure aids?
So you hate people like that? Wouldn't it be a better world if we got rid of all THOSE people? THOSE people just take up our houses and our jobs, they should go back to where THEY came from.But i tend to see them more like this.
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It helps the misanthropes. Something that "caring" doesn't do. "Caring" is what made them taht way.Misanthropy doesnt help anyone,
Must be pretty bad then if it's driving us to become more misanthropic. Possibly because everyone's CARING so much. Like everyone else you're CARING about misanthropy. They can't BEAR to leave the misanthropes to their own, they just have to CARE for them.We live better then we ever have and people are getting more misanthropic because people who have everything like to... what? Complain.
Because some of them need the soup.These people say mankind sucks. Well i sure as hell bet no one ever saw them down at the soup kitchen, why dont they pick up a goddam ladle.
What are you doing at the moment?People who call all 7 billion on this planet people dicks need to take a long look at that statement and think about how we define those that pointlessly and randomly insult and make assumptions about others.
This is when the thread should have stopped existing. Give me a 100 slightly negative threads over one complaining about it. Every week a new dictator of the forum starts a thread declaring too many threads on such and such. "oh it's this thread again"Mr.K. said:Oh the sweet sweet irony, well if nothing else OP you made me laugh
You also may wan't to check out threads like: "Why I hate haters", "I'm here to complain about complaining", ... all very amusing.
But seriously if you haven't noticed people on the internetz tend to exaggerate, you really need to take it with a grain of salt... or a truck load.
That's for Greed. Just think of how much those people will pay not to die.
So you hate people like that? Wouldn't it be a better world if we got rid of all THOSE people? THOSE people just take up our houses and our jobs, they should go back to where THEY came from.
And you wonder why they're angry?
What are you doing at the moment?
I honestly see none of this.zelda2fanboy said:I think the real issue at hand is misogyny. I'm not arguing that "gamers" or this community in particular are misogynistic, but society as a whole. It knows no boundaries, no race, and no religion. Do yourself a favor and seek out James Tiptree's short story "The Screwfly Solution" or the Masters of Horror television adaptation. It's chilling in its ongoing relevance. These threads don't seem to be about "dumb little hormonal boys," but rather "bitches, whores, sluts, nymphomaniacs, prudes" and whatever derogatory female stereotype one can come up with. It's all "her" fault because she's crazy and because she's female.
Did you get a little offended at my use of "boys" to describe male teenagers? Imagine being referred to as a "girl" 24/7 until you were 40.
Not too difficult. Im a happy misanthrope, and I find it to make perfect sense.SixWingedAsura said:I'm what you'd call a happy misanthrope.
Yeah, make sense of THAT!![]()