Yeah, I just don't think there's any need to take into account those who have established their dwelling place beneath a mineral aggregate when defining what is and isn't esoteric. To me it's sorta like saying that, just because some people don't know who Nightwish are, that Lacuna Coil should now be deemed esoteric. I see your point though.OhJohnNo said:
"You probably haven't heard of it"
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I usually just tell people regardless of whether I know they know it or not. "You probably haven't heard of it" is such an insulting phrase. You NEVER know what people have or haven't heard of (besides maybe close close friends/family, but even then you might be surprised) and when people say it to me I just get pissed.
"Oh, this thing...you probably haven't heard of it..."
"TRY ME, ASSHAT!!"
I have been surprised by peoples knowledge, and I have on occasion known more about said thing than the person telling me about it. Yeah, up yours hipster douche.
"Oh, this thing is bla bla bla...etc"
"Haven't heard of it."
"Would you like to know more?"
See, simple. Ok, mini rant over.
People of the tubes, don't be condescending to others. Be nice and friendly and maybe one day we'll live in a world where everyone has heard of the Megami Tensei series.
"Oh, this thing...you probably haven't heard of it..."
"TRY ME, ASSHAT!!"
I have been surprised by peoples knowledge, and I have on occasion known more about said thing than the person telling me about it. Yeah, up yours hipster douche.
"Oh, this thing is bla bla bla...etc"
"Haven't heard of it."
"Would you like to know more?"
See, simple. Ok, mini rant over.
People of the tubes, don't be condescending to others. Be nice and friendly and maybe one day we'll live in a world where everyone has heard of the Megami Tensei series.
I watch a lot of movies, and it does get frustrating when I can talk to someone about a movie they saw recently, but when they ask me what I've been watching, they generally haven't heard of it.
Last time this happened was with stalag 17. That is not an obscure movie, it's just kinda old.
And over the next few days whenever someone asks me if I've seen any good movies lately, I'm gonna have to say "Yes I saw an excellent movie called silent running", and then be saddened when they say they've never heard of it.
Last time this happened was with stalag 17. That is not an obscure movie, it's just kinda old.
And over the next few days whenever someone asks me if I've seen any good movies lately, I'm gonna have to say "Yes I saw an excellent movie called silent running", and then be saddened when they say they've never heard of it.
Hrm.....
Depends on who we are talking about.
Bathing?
Parenting?
Context?
Satire and sarcasm as humor?
figurative language?
Personal accountability?
Yeah there are a LOT of things I see people out there simply have never heard of or at the very least behave as such.
Depends on who we are talking about.
Bathing?
Parenting?
Context?
Satire and sarcasm as humor?
figurative language?
Personal accountability?
Yeah there are a LOT of things I see people out there simply have never heard of or at the very least behave as such.
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A more tactful way to phrase the sentence in the OP is to ask them "have you heard of it?", so there's no assumption of whether they know it or not. Sometimes you get surprised, my middle-aged driving instructor is a fan of Basshunter for example.
With people I see on regular basis, being a Trekkie equals hipster. >.<
Now that I think about it, I don't think I ever used this phrase. Not seriously, anyway.
I might be into odd stuff that I realise are quite obscure, but when I talk about it, I either explain straight away what I'm talking about or ask if the person I'm speaking to wish to learn more. I'm all for sharing things I love with others.
And then I come off as a know-it-all...
And lately, I get pissed off if people never heard about my favourite author. It's Mario Vargas Llosa. I usually explained and gifted one of his book to the person. But 2 years ago, he won a Nobel prize. I mean, you should at least know about that?
Or maybe that makes me a snob?
Probably does...
Now that I think about it, I don't think I ever used this phrase. Not seriously, anyway.
I might be into odd stuff that I realise are quite obscure, but when I talk about it, I either explain straight away what I'm talking about or ask if the person I'm speaking to wish to learn more. I'm all for sharing things I love with others.
And then I come off as a know-it-all...
And lately, I get pissed off if people never heard about my favourite author. It's Mario Vargas Llosa. I usually explained and gifted one of his book to the person. But 2 years ago, he won a Nobel prize. I mean, you should at least know about that?
Or maybe that makes me a snob?
Probably does...
Music generally. Its not even that I listen to a load obscure indie bands it just that I little bit older than most of my friends combined with the fact that most of them don't know alot of music outside of the charts so by comparison everything I listen to is an obscure indie band.
Yep. 'Cos the Sex Pistols were definitely singing about the Queen... of America? I'm sure that's right.klown said:
I find myself saying this quite a lot too. I'm a metalhead and since I've come to uni I can't seem to find many others, so whenever I do engage in any discussion of music I have to preface everything with 'you won't know what this is, but hear me out.' Plus the music I like outside of metal tends to be fairly esoteric...
You poor person. I'm lucky enough to have friends who are into Final Fantasy as I am. We went to Distant Worlds earlier this month in London, it was epic. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. And you are very lucky to have a front row ticket, good job!Whatislove said:Yeah.. pretty much in the same boat as the OP being a JRPG fan in Australia.
Random: "What's your favourite game?"
Me: "tales of symphonia"
Random: "What the fuck is that, it sounds gay"
I have yet to meet anybody, friend, aquaintance nor stranger, that has played or even heard of tales of symphonia (or the tales series for that matter).
If I ever meet a girl who knows who kratos aurion is I will marry her on the spot.
What's even worse is that I am going to distant world's on the 24th of this month by myself because when I asked my friends to come to an orchestra playing final fantasy music they all just stared blankly and then said no, not that I really mind, I do have a front row ticket
So as of late I have been saying "You probably haven't heard of it" quite alot lol.
"I can't next weekend, I'll be in adelaide"
"Why?"
"uhh... it's a thing, you probably haven't heard of it"
...how is this person your friend? >.>Shadowstar38 said:
OT: This happens... sometimes. I am into some things that are pretty out there, so when speaking to people who I know haven't heard of it, I generally try not to mention it, or use more generic terms. No point in complicating a conversation with unnecessary explanations.
Haha..I dunno, perhaps you are a sleeper hipster, an agent sent from the world of hips.. erm..hipstantiople? no that won't do.. um hipsterland, land of the hipster, to infiltrate earth in preparation for an invasion which is totally not an invasion because 'it like..works on this higher level of thought which we mundane people totally..like..wouldnt get, you know? and besides hipsters were into invasions waay before everyone else was doing them' it's quite possible that your superiors wiped your memory so that even you would not realise your true purpose here...Myndnix said:
Im going to ask you a question and the fate of this world may very well depend upon your reply, are you into obscure things for the sake of being into obscure things or are those obscure things just things you happen to like?
same here, if i tell anyone what my favorite show/movie/game/music is they will have no clue 99% of the time. Why is this?
Well i've come up with a theory that explains "average people" and their lack of knowledge on media. these people have no sense of exploration or adventure. they only like what they're told to like. They are only made aware of something if it's the most mainstream thing available and like all the other kids, they will drop their "favorite" thing in a second when the next popular thing comes around.
It's really funny that these people don't know anything i could talk about BUT i know everything they could talk about. it's like they have only been on earth for a few days or some shit. If some guy asked me my favorite game and i say "Star Ocean 3" and he's like "wtf?" and than goes on to tell me his favorite game is "Mass Effect" or "Call of Duty" i'll know exactly what he's talking about.
I've always felt normal people were a completely different species from whatever the hell i am.
Well i've come up with a theory that explains "average people" and their lack of knowledge on media. these people have no sense of exploration or adventure. they only like what they're told to like. They are only made aware of something if it's the most mainstream thing available and like all the other kids, they will drop their "favorite" thing in a second when the next popular thing comes around.
It's really funny that these people don't know anything i could talk about BUT i know everything they could talk about. it's like they have only been on earth for a few days or some shit. If some guy asked me my favorite game and i say "Star Ocean 3" and he's like "wtf?" and than goes on to tell me his favorite game is "Mass Effect" or "Call of Duty" i'll know exactly what he's talking about.
I've always felt normal people were a completely different species from whatever the hell i am.
If you can put up with the gameplay (it really is just a tower defense with occasionally difficult controls), then the story in Lock's Quest is surprisingly good. Interesting and original. At least in what it's willing to put its characters through. Starts off as a very traditional RPG but develops differently from the typical hero quest.CheesyGrin1992 said:
Little King's Story is so full of charm. The mornings were I would bump into villagers holding a funeral for their relatives who were killed at my behest, the art competition with former player's artwork included, religion vs. state, science and the exploration of space, pinball, the drunken king avoiding his wife, beard mountain, killer cows, the boy trapped in the egg wanting to kill his parents. The game has so many memorable moments.
I might have to buy a Vita just to play the new one.
She holds all the qualities of an ideal mother - loyal, protective, supportive, caring, with a feminine desire to be seen as beautiful and useful - all gone horribly wrong, unfulfilled and abused (with tragic consequences). She represents the other side of Muriel if she didn't have her independence and gain an understanding of her own self worth.Vault101 said:
If you say it with a smug sense of superiority, you're a hipster.
If you say it with disappointment, you're a regular person with obscure tastes.
People have begun lumping the second group in with the first group, because "hipster" is one of those labels that poisons everything around it (like "emo" and "furry").
I get called a hipster a lot just because I like traditional/world music (particularly Renaissance era music and stuff from Scandinavia and the Middle East) much more than I like "normal" music, like rock, metal, punk, or pop. I couldn't name a song by most popular bands, and those I could name I couldn't hum. It hurt my feelings at first, but then I just stopped talking to people and the pain mostly went away!
If you say it with disappointment, you're a regular person with obscure tastes.
People have begun lumping the second group in with the first group, because "hipster" is one of those labels that poisons everything around it (like "emo" and "furry").
I get called a hipster a lot just because I like traditional/world music (particularly Renaissance era music and stuff from Scandinavia and the Middle East) much more than I like "normal" music, like rock, metal, punk, or pop. I couldn't name a song by most popular bands, and those I could name I couldn't hum. It hurt my feelings at first, but then I just stopped talking to people and the pain mostly went away!
I love your avatar. Oh yeah and it pisses me off to no end when people who listen to shit like avenged sevenfold and black veil brides complain about "the mainstream".xplosive59 said:
ot: and I get a problem with this band. When someone asks me what my favourite band is/what I'm listening to/who-it-is-I-actually-saw-at-that-gig-I-keep-raving-on-about I can either say "well, you probably don't know them..." (which is almost always true, I've only ever met two people in real life (outside of the gig) who actually listen to them) or sound like a douchebag as I pronounce the most pretentious band name ever to have existed 4 times cos they didn't hear it clearly the first 3 times (making sure they know that there's an exclamation mark in the middle).
Of course cos the phrase "you probably haven't heard of them" has become a caricature of itself I always have to go for the latter option and cringe. It gets even worse if they ask what genre they are. "well, they're, post-rock? it's kinda ambienty and shit"
Thing is that godspeed you! black emperor aren't even obscure for their genre, but problems still come up. Heck, most people I know don't know who Brand New, Bon Iver and The Weeknd are and they're not exactly local pub artists.