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Da_Schwartz

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As long as they're not yelling beeyotch!! *****!! yo bithc!! uhh !! in my ear every 30 seconds, and committing random acts of violence in the name of videogames then i can care less.
 

Zarthek

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Gotta love the idiots on any voice chat program who don't listen to you just cause you're young, agist bastards. I get one of them in the same game as my they're ALWAYS the first target in my crosshairs, even if they're on my team (No agist comments on PSN, and I don't have any problems with you). Those idiots that swear and act like a douche just make the rest of us teenagers look bad.


Edit: I played the original Doom when I was 5 or so, no mental side effects... I think.
 

War Penguin

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Do I think M-rated games should be kept away from kids? Like what everyone else said that's really for the parents to decide. I hate when the government tries to step in on the games limitation for kids. They'd be doing what the parents should be doing and that would just encourage the parents to let the government handle all their child's problems. I say keep government out of gaming and put parents into it.
That is my thought.
(sorry to if I drifted off topic, somehow)
 

UnkeptBiscuit

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I'm thirteen, I've been playing M- rated games for about 6 months, and you guys are targeting the wrong age. The only place I've really seen idiot kids being stupid is in Halo. All my friends are about my age, and they all act mature. It's the freakin' ten-year-olds (and lower) that are racist, stupid, narcissistic idiots. OT: I think that you shouldn't play violent video games until you're mature. that SHOULD come by twelve, but I know a lot of people my age that would probably act that way on Live, but I haven't played with them, so IDK.
 

Shock and Awe

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I played when I was 12 for a little while, but I didnt act like these little shits(excuse my french)
 

CWestfall

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Age ratings are inherently flawed. I was about as mature as I am now by around the age of 14. Conversely, I have a 25 year old friend who refuses to act above the age of 5. The reason for M ratings is simply so that in a perfect world stores wouldn't sell them to minors, and their parents would have to use some common sense or perhaps judgement and decide if they should have the game or not. (Also in a perfect world, nuclear fission and solar would provide power to most of the world, the LED would have replaced incandescent bulbs, and hydrogen powered cars would have effectively stopped global warming.)

However, as we all know, only in about 10% of all cases do stores comply with the M rating, and in even fewer cases do parents show some common sense, preferring to just give their child whatever they like so they will shut the hell up.
 

Georg8

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Its a matter pertaining to the way they act. I'm not exactly intolerant but I have my limits. As such I do enjoy conversing on any voice chat, whether it be vent or xbox live, but its how or what they say. I can mute but I prefer not to, and the younger the people are I find the less inhibitions they have about using foul language or being incredibly rude. The high voices get annoying because it constantly sounds like they're screaming, but just lowering your headset volume solves that, I find it only becomes a "must mute" if someone else is also talking and that lowering your volume to prevent ear damage makes one unable to hear them.

On the Topic of letting kids play M-rated games. I see no problem in it as long as the parent has reviewed the decision accurately and believes their child is of a proper maturity level.

Never got carpal tunnel or anything and I played (emphasis on playED) Wow for 2 and 1/2 years and my hands are fine, and if anything will mess your hands up that's it.

Man meant to put my 2cents in, looks like I overdrew my account. sorry for the Rant
 

Srkkl

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They're voice is annoying and it's very distracting mainly because the ones I've run into does everything in their power to get a rise out of people(singing, playing music, racist jokes, and cursing) they think the last two make them more mature. I personally believe that children (12 and under) should not be on games like "Call of Duty (4or5)" because they dissrupt the community and make playing terrible for everyone else.
 

Borrowed Time

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Cleril said:
3. I haven't had any hand deformations, been playing since childhood, 16 now, nothing wrong with my hands.
Except for those hairy palms! *badum-tish* Thank you, I'll be here all night! (JK, your palms are actually quite lovely, erm.) Anyway, the parents are the ones who should be making the decisions. I've got a couple boys myself, 10 and 12, and they're limited on what they can play. Some games have subject matter that I really don't feel my kids should be focusing on at that age.

Do I shelter them from violence? Hell no, they watch me blow the head off a raider in Fallout 3 all the time. Do I shelter them from sex? Sure, the hardcore stuff that they shouldn't really even be thinking about at that point. I try to make it a point to not have them watching movies and such with sexually explicite scenes in them, but at the same time when there's, "OMG BOOBIES or OMG A BARE BUTTOCKS!" on screen I don't jump up screaming and cover their eyes. Do they know about sex? Sure, I've talked to them extensively on the subject, reinforced that it is in fact a good thing, that the human body isn't something to be ashamed of. Do they feel that they can come to me with their questions and concerns? Yep, they already have on numerous subjects, including that the oldest actually is starting to be attracted to female classmates.

Now, on the other hand, there are a lot of parents out there who don't take it upon themselves to educate their kids, in many cases because they simply can't be bothered. Do we as a society need to police them? I personally don't feel so. It's tragic that children have to grow up in that atmosphere but at the same time, 200+ years ago, hell even sooner then that time, pre-teens were expected to be more responsible then most 30 year olds now. At the age of fourteen some kids actually had to support their siblings when mommy and daddy died. Actually, that still happens today, especially in less developed countries. Did those children lose their innocence young? Sure they did, but they had to in order for their family to survive. The current younger generation is capable of the same behavior but unfortunately that potential, in many cases, is perverted by the mass media. Once again I'm not saying the government should step in on everything and lock it down. (I personally think the government should GTFO and have as little say on anything as possible, but that's another thread) Instead parents need to step up and actually be parents.

Oh, and yes, the incessantly high pitched whining, cursing, screaming causes my ears to bleed. Parents, please either don't buy your damn kids a mic, or shove it up their nose till they shut up. I'm too busy blowing shit up to mute them. =P
 

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BolognaBaloney said:
A random person said:
I'll just say that most kids I knew since 12 could handle M-rated games just fine. They really aren't that bad.
BolognaBaloney said:
Annoying voices and immaturity abound in the online gaming world, age regardless.
But as far as younger kids, yes they should be kept away from M-rated games.
I don't believe it influences them, but I do believe it can desensitize them.
And what's wrong with that? I never got why desensitization's such a bad thing, especially if it doesn't influence them.

But I agree with you about online gaming, it doesn't really matter how old they are, people will be idiots, especially on Xbox Live.
Because there are some things, namely child-like innocence, that doesn't need to be stripped away by gaming. For once, I agree with the government, I'm glad we have rating systems, because most 12 year olds shouldn't be playing gta 4. With age comes better understanding, and more time to realize your own choices and preferences, when it comes to life or games.
The childhood innocence thing is what gets to me. Childhood innocence is ignorance, plain and simple. People stop being so "innocent" when they're older because they know more about the world and reality. As for the age thing, you have the right idea, but it's experience and learning that gives you a better understanding of yourself, and those don't simply come from age.
 

Madshaw

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Sqeaky voices anoy me personally, i also can't stand it when some jumped up little american brat is having a go at me for being brittish, but then i may well be judging thm all for the sins of the few, but bloody hell they realy do anoy me.

I don't like the way tyhat they refuse to do anything unless it is good for themselves and only themselves, the second it even smells like teamwork they are gone (in my experience), and because of those things i think they should be banned from M rated games because it stands for mature, and they are not
 

Crabturtleking

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BolognaBaloney said:
Worgen said:
BolognaBaloney said:
A random person said:
I'll just say that most kids I knew since 12 could handle M-rated games just fine. They really aren't that bad.
BolognaBaloney said:
Annoying voices and immaturity abound in the online gaming world, age regardless.
But as far as younger kids, yes they should be kept away from M-rated games.
I don't believe it influences them, but I do believe it can desensitize them.
And what's wrong with that? I never got why desensitization's such a bad thing, especially if it doesn't influence them.

But I agree with you about online gaming, it doesn't really matter how old they are, people will be idiots, especially on Xbox Live.
Because there are some things, namely child-like innocence, that doesn't need to be stripped away by gaming. For once, I agree with the government, I'm glad we have rating systems, because most 12 year olds shouldn't be playing gta 4. With age comes better understanding, and more time to realize your own choices and preferences, when it comes to life or games.
there is no government regulation, its the industry self regulating, its against the law for the govt to regulate video games. And child like innocents is a myth, children are the cruelest things around
Wrong on both accounts my friend, stores are required by the government to check i.d. for m rated games. You can indeed get in trouble with the local law enforcement for attempting to buy m-rated games under-aged. Also child-like innocence exists. A child is a clean slate, and anything it learns is through learning by imitation, repetition, or another outside source.
According to the ESRB, their ratings are solely enforced by the distributors of the games, not the government. I could be wrong though.
 

FranzTyphid

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i'm 13 and i dont really see whats the big fuss about kids playing online
the only time i've ever had a fat kid shouting "OHHHHHH YOU F**KIN BA****D YOU"
was when i was playing COD4 and he was American and 8