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for the past few months I've been on the fence as to whether or not to join the army, something like what you described would be just what I'd need to push me to join.
 

Giantcain

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in the old days they literaly forced you into the army near enough and if didn't want to be there they shot ya but really id go and hide as I learned when I was learning about the somme more people fighting for you does not mean you will win i man were not even sure how the somme actually or how we didnt lose the infantry said they say angels and the germans fled when they could have won that battle there and then so in short id go hide somewhere really dark
 

YouCallMeNighthawk

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I say old chap said:
It is the old question of whether it is good and glorious to die for one's country. Something the Athenians believed in (it is good to die for the city-state), but which is lacking in our consumer society far more concerned with fashions and fads then sacrifice and bravery.

My answer is yes, but only in a war of defence. It is not moral to invade other societies via offensive wars and leave infrastructure and non-combatants destroyed and dead respectively.

Good responses though people. A range of opinions here.
yeah i don't believe in Invading countrys and forcing our way of life onto them. yeah it would be completely defence war! just like WW2 britain was trying to protect herself and france from opression by nazi's.

Yes i'm really enjoying the thread i made, a very diverse set of opinions. which is good because the world would be crap if everyone thought the same, it would be like equilibrium everyone having no emotions!
 

Elf Defiler Korgan

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Glad you are liking it. I think there is good merit in citizens adapting to guerrilla warfare to defeat invaders. Worked for the Spanish against Napoleonic France too.
 

YouCallMeNighthawk

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Giantcain said:
in the old days they literaly forced you into the army near enough and if didn't want to be there they shot ya but really id go and hide as I learned when I was learning about the somme more people fighting for you does not mean you will win i man were not even sure how the somme actually or how we didnt lose the infantry said they say angels and the germans fled when they could have won that battle there and then so in short id go hide somewhere really dark
yeah that's true but power comes in quantity though. basically what i'm trying to say is if we have a ratio of 5:1 in our favour it would bring their morale down going against such a huge force. Also 5 guns shooting at one person more chance of a kill and decreasing their numbers (providing they were trained properly)

And back in them days tactics must not have been in the dictionary! throwing men at the enemy fronline may have worked in the middle ages but that's because they didn't have machine guns and artillery lol Lucky we have evolved from them days so fewer men die.
 

TimeLord

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Depends entirely on why my country would be fighting. If it was in a defensive situation then yes I would fight
 

YouCallMeNighthawk

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I say old chap said:
Glad you are liking it. I think there is good merit in citizens adapting to guerrilla warfare to defeat invaders. Worked for the Spanish against Napoleonic France too.
I thought spain was with Napoleon because he wanted to destroy England?

But yeah geurilla warfare is far more superior to bringing down and army rather than building a wall and hoping the best.
 

IrirshTerrorist

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I'm Irish, we don't join our army, we just wait for the enemy to invade and then we use Guerrilla Warfare until they realise that this country has (in the words of Captain Zap Brannigan); "No strategic value or useful natural resources and poses no threat to us what so ever" and they just leave.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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I would sign up in a heartbeat. There may be things i don't like about my country but i would defend it to the end.
On a side note, i'm planning on joining the TA after i've finished my exams. I go to university in september so once i'm done there i will probably transfer to the proper army
 

oppp7

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Ya, but only for something not too dangerous. I bruise like a banana.
 

Criquefreak

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I know full well that I'd be put up for treason just for applying to any military; I'd ignore commanding officers, shirk any duties assigned to me by these random strangers, refuse to use firearms regardless of the situation, frequently ask why our governmental leaders aren't just mud-wrestling instead of sending innocent people out to die for their petty issues, and I'd be openly telling these things to a recruiter while yawning and blocking out any response they'd have.

Now, if someone threatens a friend or family member personally, it's teeth, nails, and enough dirty fighting to cause a doubletake for anyone who knew me while they question, "She's a pacifist?"
 

DesiPrinceX09

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Ya prolly, I love my country and my cummunity after all. Most of my family is back home so I would do it for my family, my community, and my clan.
 

Gunner 51

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I'd be happy enough to lend a hand, but my body being as weak, frail and unfit as it is - the Armed Forces won't bother looking for me.
 

GBlair88

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I think if it got to the point that I was to be drafted into the army to defend my nation, the UK would be well and truly fucked already.

YouCallMeNighthawk said:
Slightly off tpic here, but i could use your help. I'm going ireland on a holiday and was just wondering where would be good to go? I'm quite interested in it's history and stuff like that.
Should have a look round the north coast, it'd be very nice with the weather we're having. Could try the Ulster museum near the Lanyon building of Queens University in Belfast as they had an exhibition on things such as the troubles and Irish history in general which is probably still there. Or there's the Folk and Transport museum at Cultra and the Ulster American folk park near Omagh.

That's if you're planning on holidaying in the North of course.
 

Zacharine

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I'm already trained and currently in reserves. However, when it comes down to war....

War is almost the worst possible thing on this Earth. I think that whomever goes to war is morally a criminal (this includes me).

The fact that sometimes war is necessary isn't a point in favour of war, it's a point against us as a species.

So yes, I would pick up my rifle, don the uniform and do the job they trained me for. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would do it.
 

Sonicron

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Well, I was already in the service a few years back, and I'm pretty sure that if war came to my country they have a way of drafting me (because I can actually help due to my military training) if I'm not over a certain age. Not much of a choice there, but hey, I was in the navy, so I'd probably get put with the command echelons of a supply/resupply ship again. I'm also an excellent sharpshooter, or at least that's what my decorations say.