Your Current Opinion on Rap Today?
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Like any genre of music, there is good rap and there is bad rap.
Unfortunately most of the popular rap nowadays is the bad kind.
Unfortunately most of the popular rap nowadays is the bad kind.
I enjoy it. Not all of it mind you. But there is quite a bit out there that I enjoy.
But then I spent my teen years in a city where 26 inch spinners on a broken down Pontiac are pretty commonplace. So I have been exposed to it for a while. I have some friends who listen to nothing but rap.
Personally I don't think you can say it's all crap anymore than you can say all of any genre is crap. I enjoy some of the old stuff, not all but some. And I enjoy some of the new stuff, not all but some.
It has definitely evolved over the years. If you talk to some of my friends they can go on and on about all the different types of rap, and they can tell by just a few beats which area of the U.S. certain rappers hail from.
But then I spent my teen years in a city where 26 inch spinners on a broken down Pontiac are pretty commonplace. So I have been exposed to it for a while. I have some friends who listen to nothing but rap.
Personally I don't think you can say it's all crap anymore than you can say all of any genre is crap. I enjoy some of the old stuff, not all but some. And I enjoy some of the new stuff, not all but some.
It has definitely evolved over the years. If you talk to some of my friends they can go on and on about all the different types of rap, and they can tell by just a few beats which area of the U.S. certain rappers hail from.
I am so glad I live in the beautiful and noise free Northwest. Thanks though, I really shouldn't ignore such a success story like Soulja Boy just because I dislike him. He really is entertaining, even if it is for all the wrong reasons one would want to be entertaining.Byrn Stuff said:
Oh man, I thought this thread would be full of uneducated bollocks, but wow.
Oooooh... Where to start? Ok, here goes:
1) To quote Scrupulous Pip "Thou shalt remember that guns, bitches and bling were never part of the four elements, and never will be". Not every track is talking about the size of the artist's gat, how many ho's he's slapped up or how "hood" he is. To say that this is the case is (as someone pointed out before me, I believe it was @clipse15, good shout if it was), tantamount to saying that all metal is about satanic worship.
2) You don't like the rap you've heard? That's cool, there's a lot of metal around that I think is screamy crap. The way to handle it isn't "zomg all rap is shite", it's "the rap I've heard is shite". By not saying "all metal is shit", I've ended up with people sending me gems like Less Than Jake and Alestorm. History of a Boring Town by Less Than Jake was even good enough to get a place on my running playlist, which due to the need for heavy-beat songs does contain largely G-Rap or close.
Which leads me nicely on to my next point. Listen carefully, there will be a test at the end:
2) The reason that all the rap you hear is like that is the same reason there is very little decent metal in the commercial setlist. 50 Cent is to Rap as Metallica is to metal (read: Mainstream crap). What you hear is what's known as "Gangsta rap" and "crunk". Try Orchestral Rap (rap with a live orchestral backing[footnote]
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So yeah.... before you strike all rap off, try listening to some of the wider genre.
To the rest? I'd apologise for the massive dump of videos down there, but hell, a lot of you could do with listening to a few of them.
Oooooh... Where to start? Ok, here goes:
1) To quote Scrupulous Pip "Thou shalt remember that guns, bitches and bling were never part of the four elements, and never will be". Not every track is talking about the size of the artist's gat, how many ho's he's slapped up or how "hood" he is. To say that this is the case is (as someone pointed out before me, I believe it was @clipse15, good shout if it was), tantamount to saying that all metal is about satanic worship.
2) You don't like the rap you've heard? That's cool, there's a lot of metal around that I think is screamy crap. The way to handle it isn't "zomg all rap is shite", it's "the rap I've heard is shite". By not saying "all metal is shit", I've ended up with people sending me gems like Less Than Jake and Alestorm. History of a Boring Town by Less Than Jake was even good enough to get a place on my running playlist, which due to the need for heavy-beat songs does contain largely G-Rap or close.
Which leads me nicely on to my next point. Listen carefully, there will be a test at the end:
2) The reason that all the rap you hear is like that is the same reason there is very little decent metal in the commercial setlist. 50 Cent is to Rap as Metallica is to metal (read: Mainstream crap). What you hear is what's known as "Gangsta rap" and "crunk". Try Orchestral Rap (rap with a live orchestral backing[footnote]
So yeah.... before you strike all rap off, try listening to some of the wider genre.
To the rest? I'd apologise for the massive dump of videos down there, but hell, a lot of you could do with listening to a few of them.
Cite your source or else you will be seen as the michael atkinson of rap.DragonChi said:
I don't really like rap, but I'm not at all against rap as a whole.
well, i've always hated rap and the only song i've ever liked EVER that was rap was ( i can never remember the name) is one about religion ( I'm an aithiest btw) and it was actually deep, unlike the rest of the crap about vodka or heroin, or a mixture of the two.
I think that you are making the fallacy of mistaking correlation for causation. Rap doesn't cause people to become criminals, however, due to the culture that it arose from there is a correlation. On the other hand, pretty much everyone I know listens to at least some rap, whereas I don't believe that anyone I know is a criminal.DragonChi said:
... also the other stuff you said is silly.
Agreed.... the glorious days of "bustin' caps ina foo" is over. Now all they rap about is how rich they are.zHellas said:
I never turned down an entire music genre.
In every genre of music, there's always someone who suprises me. If you want to hear some of those people, you have to search for them. Hip-hop and rap managed to give me some nice music. Therefore, spread the love.
In every genre of music, there's always someone who suprises me. If you want to hear some of those people, you have to search for them. Hip-hop and rap managed to give me some nice music. Therefore, spread the love.
could it beScreamSlayer said:
Again, have a peek up there. In particular, check out The Nosebleed Section. Point me out the line where it's talking about how rich they are?quiet_samurai said:
See, this comes up every time Rap is "discussed" on here. I say "discussed" because it's usually people going "lawl bitchez yo!" and thinking that they're oh-so-cool for slamming a genre of music that they've barely scratched the surface on, and even then they've only scratched the surface of what the media says should be popular.
Big man, you learn that one at primary school? Out of interest, where did you get that opinion from? Was it tracks like this:Kungfu_Teddybear said:
If so, do I judge all metal to be the same as this:
No. Of course not. Take a second to think before spewing off some crap that you heard in the schoolyard.