You treat your kids in a loving and kind manner because it's the right thing to do. Regardless of what your own parents did.PayJ567 said:Oh ok so by your reasoning if your parents were loving and kind to you, You CAN'T say that its because of your parents that you treat your kids this way. Its the same analogy as your child abuse one the point taken out of context.BonsaiK said:The child abuse analogy works. I'm not saying the two things are related, they obviously are not related and I never said that they were. I'm just saying that "my parents did it to me so I get to pass it on" is no excuse for any behaviour of any kind, under any circumstance. The child abuse analogy is used only to make that point crystal clear.quiet_samurai said:Right.... because making light of a serious issue which you wish to express your opinion on is clearly related to child abuse.BonsaiK said:"Rites of passage" like that are stupid. If you're going to give someone a "rite of passage" make it something meaningful, sensible and worthwhile, not some dumb-ass joke about going on a date that you should have grown out of the minute you decided that having children was an option for you. Also "my parents did it to me, so I get to do it to my kids" is no excuse for anything. Most child abusers were also abused when they were children but that doesn't make child abuse acceptable.quiet_samurai said:I disagree. It's like a rite of passage thing, I had it done to me so I'm damn sure going to do it to him. Also, I remember what was on my mind when I was at that age and an intimate setting like a dance or something made it all the stronger.BonsaiK said:No. I'd never play a joke on anyone in that situation. Stuff like that is stressful and weird enough for young folks without some parent acting like a retarded smartass. Juvenile parents like that (and yes, I have met them) aren't fit to be parents at all.Wardog13 said:You guys got anything funny to say?
And I agree with you on this, yes kids are going to have sex no matter what their parents think... well many will anyways. But as a parent expressing your disagreement on the matter is completely valid.BonsaiK said:Of course kids are going to have sex or have whatever on their mind but acting like moron-out-of-an-American-high-school-movie-parent-101 is not going to help, it's probably if anything going to turn the kid against you. It'll make him or her much more likely to do things that they shouldn't without telling you, because they're scared that if they tell you stuff about their private lives you'll just be a twit and make more retarded idiot jokes about it instead of taking their concerns seriously. Being a kid is alienating enough, you should at least know that your parents are on-side instead of acting the dumbass.
And if I had a child and they came to me with a serious issue and wanted to discuss it I would be all ears with all joking aside. But that is a completely different topic then this threads intention.
Parent expressing disagreement, fine. Parent acting like a dumbass about something that the kid probably is taking very seriously, not fine. Might be okay if the kid also has a fairly relaxed attitude about it and is treating the prom like a big joke, but for any kid who is serious about it, they sure don't need "Dad McSmartass" digging holes in the garden.
You don't abuse your kids because it's not the right thing to do. Once again, regardless of what your own parents did.