Your Favorite "Martial Art" Weapon

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Lyiat

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Shadow Law said:
Lyiat said:
The problem by saying "Martial Art" weapon is that the wording is... well, its crap. Martial Arts simply means the art of fighting, so any melee weapon applies. So the weapons for this thread could be any European weapon as well. That said, I'll break it down because I like many weapons.

West: Zweihander
East: Katana
Two-Handed: Naginata
Stealth: Shinobigatana
Was that the nicest way you could put that, I mean really. Anyway I couldn't of just said weapon because thats been done hundreds of times before and people would go straight to guns, I hate guns. Guns have no fair play with them. A man can defend himself from a sword with many different basic weapons such as the staff and it also takes honed skills to use.
The Escapist has no rules against being blunt. It was a very poorly worded question, leading me to question whether or not the OP actually knows the definition of what Martial Arts is. There are plenty of people who are ignorant of this, and my tolerance of "Martial Arts equals crazy kungfo ninjaz!" has dropped to zero.
 

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3rd rung said:
I like the ninjitus kantana is shorter and has a straight blade with a square hilt, looks cool and compact for close quarters
I think you meant the wakizashi
As katana are a main side arm (samurai only used katana in close quarters and prefer to use bows) while the wakizashi is purely used as a side arm, so yeah I think that is what you meant.
As for my faviorite martial arts weapons... THE GLOCK 18!
I might of chosen a rifle, but they are 2 handed weapons, which are harder to hide.
 

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Lyiat said:
Shadow Law said:
Lyiat said:
The problem by saying "Martial Art" weapon is that the wording is... well, its crap. Martial Arts simply means the art of fighting, so any melee weapon applies. So the weapons for this thread could be any European weapon as well. That said, I'll break it down because I like many weapons.

West: Zweihander
East: Katana
Two-Handed: Naginata
Stealth: Shinobigatana
Was that the nicest way you could put that, I mean really. Anyway I couldn't of just said weapon because thats been done hundreds of times before and people would go straight to guns, I hate guns. Guns have no fair play with them. A man can defend himself from a sword with many different basic weapons such as the staff and it also takes honed skills to use.
The Escapist has no rules against being blunt. It was a very poorly worded question, leading me to question whether or not the OP actually knows the definition of what Martial Arts is. There are plenty of people who are ignorant of this, and my tolerance of "Martial Arts equals crazy kungfo ninjaz!" has dropped to zero.
Alright I give, what I should have said was "Weapons traditionally used with different forms of martial arts." Are you happy or are you going to give me crap about this too?
 

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Because I fence foil, I'm going to say that my foil is my favorite martial arts weapon. That said, the Sabre (which I'm terrible with) is probably the better weapon in general, I'm just terrible with it.

In terms of a "real" weapon, late age Sabres are excellent close combat weapons. Quick, more flexible than the bayonet and not overburdened with unnecessary weight or size, which is the problem with Scimitars, Katanas, Rapiers and so forth. In a conflict between unarmored persons, the sabre is THE weapon to bring for close combat.

For duels, I'd probably favor the small sword (the lethal equivalent of the Foil/Epee) because of the sheer speed and flexibility the weapon offers. That said, a battle between a trained sabreist and traditional duelist would be quite the tossup since many of the moves of the sabre have no equivalent with the small sword.
 

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Anomynous 167 said:
3rd rung said:
I like the ninjitus kantana is shorter and has a straight blade with a square hilt, looks cool and compact for close quarters
I think you meant the wakizashi
As katana are a main side arm (samurai only used katana in close quarters and prefer to use bows) while the wakizashi is purely used as a side arm, so yeah I think that is what you meant.
As for my faviorite martial arts weapons... THE GLOCK 18!
I might of chosen a rifle, but they are 2 handed weapons, which are harder to hide.
No no he is talking about the ninjutsu katana. The swords the ninja's used that were poorly made and weren't even very sharp because of that, hence ninjas always stabbed rather than slashed :p I think they look very cool also though :)

My fave would be the wakazashi, I have like 5 katanas, 2 bokkens, 1 wakazashi and 1 tanto, so I need more wakazashi's but they seem hard to get on their own, always sold in sets of 3 with the katana and tanto
 

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No no he is talking about the ninjutsu katana. The swords the ninja's used that were poorly made and weren't even very sharp because of that, hence ninjas always stabbed rather than slashed :p I think they look very cool also though :)
The purely linear attack is the quickest way to deliver a blade. That is the reason why western swords moved steadily towrds the small sword, where the thrust was so common that the edge existed primarly to dissuade you opponent from grabing your sword. Plus, with a short, light weapon the slash doesn't deliver nearly as much damage as a heavier or longer sword. Also, the cut makes it difficult to rapidly shift a line of attack or defense. Those flaws are essentially what probably lead to the common thrust of the weapon, but keep in mind that's from the perspective of a fencer in the western style.
 

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OneManBand said:
There is no such thing as fair play in true combat, which is what martial arts train you for. I train in use of a rifle to save not only MY life but the lives of the people I deploy with from people who use bombs to attack us. You want to talk about fair? Tell that to the 31 people who didn't make it back from my last deployment because they were killed by roadside bombs. Tell them that using a firearm to protect yourself isn't fair.

That's what I thought.
Mate I don't believe a word of what you are saying. You just seem like a cocky prick. Get over yourself. Oh and your big long post about your rifle. First of all I don't believe you have a rifle, and second, you could have just said 'm4 carbine', practically everyone on this site will know what that is.

Eclectic Dreck said:
The purely linear attack is the quickest way to deliver a blade. That is the reason why western swords moved steadily towrds the small sword, where the thrust was so common that the edge existed primarly to dissuade you opponent from grabing your sword. Plus, with a short, light weapon the slash doesn't deliver nearly as much damage as a heavier or longer sword. Also, the cut makes it difficult to rapidly shift a line of attack or defense. Those flaws are essentially what probably lead to the common thrust of the weapon, but keep in mind that's from the perspective of a fencer in the western style.
You seem to know your stuff :) I admit I don't know much about swords. My post just came from something I read while looking into ninjutsu. Thanks for the info though I will actually remember that :)
 

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Then he should have actually said "other than your hands" because there clearly are styles that focus only on hands or body movements. After learning a martial art, you can be charged of an assault with a deadly weapon.
I'm pretty sure this is just a myth. I can't find any source that says people can actually register their hands as deadly weapons.
 

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Sansetsukon - three pieced wooden or metal flail, similar to nun chucks, but harder to use. But looks cool, both in combat and outside of it.

Flail - Giant metal spiked ball on a chain attacked to a handle? Yes, please. One of the few weapons that you could use while on your horse - it has no recoil after it lands a hit. The bad thing about is - you miss, you must control it, otherwise you might get hit.

But from sharp weapons? I'd go with a katana or a rapier. Elegant and fast weapons.
 

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zoozilla said:
Nun. Chucks.

That or those awesome "tiger claws" from Enter the Dragon.
zoozilla said:
Nun. Chucks.

That or those awesome "tiger claws" from Enter the Dragon.
I believe the correct spelling is Nunchuku... but then again, the final "u" is silent so who cares?
Well for my favirote meilee weapon, the tonfa.
If I wanted to be deadly with it, I'd add a couple blades at the end of the pair of tonfa, also I'd try and have more protection at the handles.
 

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TheNecroswanson said:
ward. said:
Shadow Law said:
And no there is no martial art of the hand and gun
I'm sure there is somewhere, at the very least there would be a correct learn-able technique for pistol whipping.


I'm going to stick with the humble sword on this one.
What about nunchuckguns?
I suspect that the accidental fatality rate would be far to high to produce experts in the use of such a weapon.
 

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I don't know what they're called but its like 3 long metal poles connected with chain loops. The main guy in Fearless uses them.
 

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Let us not forget... Sword-chucks, yo.

KaZZaP said:
I don't know what they're called but its like 3 long metal poles connected with chain loops. The main guy in Fearless uses them.
Three segmented-staff.
 

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HSIAMetalKing said:
sheic99 said:
Then he should have actually said "other than your hands" because there clearly are styles that focus only on hands or body movements. After learning a martial art, you can be charged of an assault with a deadly weapon.
I'm pretty sure this is just a myth. I can't find any source that says people can actually register their hands as deadly weapons.
Well, yeah the only thing that comes up is cops/ military personel shooting unarmed people. I think it would be more for murder than just a simple bar brawl.
 

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TheSear said:
OneManBand said:
There is no such thing as fair play in true combat, which is what martial arts train you for. I train in use of a rifle to save not only MY life but the lives of the people I deploy with from people who use bombs to attack us. You want to talk about fair? Tell that to the 31 people who didn't make it back from my last deployment because they were killed by roadside bombs. Tell them that using a firearm to protect yourself isn't fair.

That's what I thought.
Mate I don't believe a word of what you are saying. You just seem like a cocky prick. Get over yourself. Oh and your big long post about your rifle. First of all I don't believe you have a rifle, and second, you could have just said 'm4 carbine', practically everyone on this site will know what that is.
Practically doesn't mean everyone. Being able to tell you about something I take pride in is no different than anyone gushing over their favorite anime. Like it, hate, I honestly don't give a shit.

And no, I'm not cocky. Just a little tired, a little frustrated, and all around rather annoyed by the statement he made. Now honestly, I don't give a crap what you think of what I say. If it's true or not is something you can try to argue with me until the end of time but I'll stick with what I said. I'm proud of my integrity and will stand by it no matter what. Honestly though, until you've smelled what burnt flesh smells like, and had to help unload charred and blood soaked gear from the wrecked skeleton of what used to be an up-armored HMMWV and even see someone you know wheeled out of the operating room a lot shorter than he was when you last saw him, and then see him taken to a waiting truck to move him to the helipad to airlift him to what counts for a hospital you won't really get it. There is no true honor in combat. There is only doing what you can to protect yourself, your battle buddies, and the innocent civilians in the area. So all this crap about fighting fair, or having no honor in using a firearm is bullshit. Because in the end no one cares about honor out there. They just care about making sure everyone gets home in one piece.
 

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OneManBand said:
TheSear said:
OneManBand said:
There is no such thing as fair play in true combat, which is what martial arts train you for. I train in use of a rifle to save not only MY life but the lives of the people I deploy with from people who use bombs to attack us. You want to talk about fair? Tell that to the 31 people who didn't make it back from my last deployment because they were killed by roadside bombs. Tell them that using a firearm to protect yourself isn't fair.

That's what I thought.
Mate I don't believe a word of what you are saying. You just seem like a cocky prick. Get over yourself. Oh and your big long post about your rifle. First of all I don't believe you have a rifle, and second, you could have just said 'm4 carbine', practically everyone on this site will know what that is.
Practically doesn't mean everyone. Being able to tell you about something I take pride in is no different than anyone gushing over their favorite anime. Like it, hate, I honestly don't give a shit.

And no, I'm not cocky. Just a little tired, a little frustrated, and all around rather annoyed by the statement he made. Now honestly, I don't give a crap what you think of what I say. If it's true or not is something you can try to argue with me until the end of time but I'll stick with what I said. I'm proud of my integrity and will stand by it no matter what. Honestly though, until you've smelled what burnt flesh smells like, and had to help unload charred and blood soaked gear from the wrecked skeleton of what used to be an up-armored HMMWV and even see someone you know wheeled out of the operating room a lot shorter than he was when you last saw him, and then see him taken to a waiting truck to move him to the helipad to airlift him to what counts for a hospital you won't really get it. There is no true honor in combat. There is only doing what you can to protect yourself, your battle buddies, and the innocent civilians in the area. So all this crap about fighting fair, or having no honor in using a firearm is bullshit. Because in the end no one cares about honor out there. They just care about making sure everyone gets home in one piece.
listen Pal, jusT take some time to sleep thiS anger off and go to beD.

For those of you who just read that line, What capital letters?
 

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Shadow Law said:
listen Pal, jusT take some time to sleep thiS anger off and go to beD.

For those of you who just read that line, What capital letters?
Heh. Cute. I'll give you that.

Talk to anyone who has deployed and show me someone without PTSD and I'll show you a liar.

I was never angry though. Annoyed perhaps, but for me that's a far lower rung on the ladder than actual anger. Believe me, anger involves a lot more swearing, then a lapse into a rather calm state where I feel particularly violent. I wasn't even close to that.


And for a more on topic note: fixed blade knives over folding any day.