Your most hated anime cliche

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Arisato-kun

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Inconsistencies in each character's strength. Bleach is the prime example of this. DBZ got it right but Bleach has characters randomly powering up for whatever arbitrary reason Kubo can think of these days. It's kind of upsetting.
 
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Isaac The Grape said:
Nautical Honors Society said:
Isaac The Grape said:
Abedeus said:
NO! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! I CANNOT BE KILLED!!! NOOOOOOOOOO

*blasted in a huge fireball*

Or.

- My ultimate technique!! YOU ARE FINISHED!!!

boom, booom, booooooom

- There's no way he survived, he must've been destroyed!

Within 15 seconds to 3 episodes from now:

- You thought you could defeat me? Insert Cliche Phrase (worst case - "You are too weak to destroy me!", best being "IT'S MY TURN NOW!!").

Also, what Bleach, Dragon Ball, Slayers and others do - show a super-strong character, then show another even more super character, then EVEN STRONGER.

In Slayers:

Oh, no, it's Gaav, the Demon Lord!! We can't defeat him!!

(mysterious character kills him in 5 seconds after appearing)

Oh no, it's the Hellmaster! We totally have no chance now!!!

(5 minutes before the end of the last episode, new power of the protagonist destroys the previous boss)

IT'S THE MOTHER OF DARKNESS, LORD OF NIGHTMARES... this is getting ridiculous, she's the most powerful being in the universe! Or... could she be just under the top... Well, we'll never know.
Ironic considering your avatar is from Gurren Lagann.
Yes, but Gurren Laggen is a parody of these stereotypes.
Uhhh, Gurrren Lagann (the subbed version I have at least) is in no way a parody of the aforementioned stereotypes.
How is it not? Kamina is so over the top ridiculous. I can't see how the creator who make "manly combining" without it being a joke on other animes.
 

Arehexes

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A few things bug me
A)Lets go to the beach (Every anime I watch has this some where it seems)
B)Boobs boobs boobs did you know they have boobs
C)A anime series that was fine on it's own then added sex to "make it better"
D)Filler
E)the DBZ effect(saying they trained for the strongest attack).
 

Serperoth

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megaman24681012 said:
Serperoth said:
I know it doesn't really count but...
The fangirls. The "I know 5 japanese words" and "I'm so edgy I watch fucking NARUTO" and "Oh, thought provoking anime? That's for suckers. Now shut up and let me watch pointless crap" types. There's more, but you get my point. I don't fully respect anime as an art form, since for every one Cowboy Bebop, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Neon Genesis Evangelion etc. there's about 356 Axis Powers Hetalia, Death Note, crap like that. Sorry, Japan, make moar TTGL, THEN we'll talk.
356? thats a random number.
No it's not:) The Porsche 356 is my favourite car:) 42 sounded very low, so yeah.
 

Isaac The Grape

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Nautical Honors Society said:
Isaac The Grape said:
Nautical Honors Society said:
Isaac The Grape said:
Abedeus said:
NO! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! I CANNOT BE KILLED!!! NOOOOOOOOOO

*blasted in a huge fireball*

Or.

- My ultimate technique!! YOU ARE FINISHED!!!

boom, booom, booooooom

- There's no way he survived, he must've been destroyed!

Within 15 seconds to 3 episodes from now:

- You thought you could defeat me? Insert Cliche Phrase (worst case - "You are too weak to destroy me!", best being "IT'S MY TURN NOW!!").

Also, what Bleach, Dragon Ball, Slayers and others do - show a super-strong character, then show another even more super character, then EVEN STRONGER.

In Slayers:

Oh, no, it's Gaav, the Demon Lord!! We can't defeat him!!

(mysterious character kills him in 5 seconds after appearing)

Oh no, it's the Hellmaster! We totally have no chance now!!!

(5 minutes before the end of the last episode, new power of the protagonist destroys the previous boss)

IT'S THE MOTHER OF DARKNESS, LORD OF NIGHTMARES... this is getting ridiculous, she's the most powerful being in the universe! Or... could she be just under the top... Well, we'll never know.
Ironic considering your avatar is from Gurren Lagann.
Yes, but Gurren Laggen is a parody of these stereotypes.
Uhhh, Gurrren Lagann (the subbed version I have at least) is in no way a parody of the aforementioned stereotypes.
How is it not? Kamina is so over the top ridiculous. I can't see how the creator who make "manly combining" without it being a joke on other animes.
I was going to give a list of points on various themes and ideas that appear in the show that point out certain Japanese ideals and the lack of inference of parodying nature that a parody would contain. But I'm not. I can't properly think this late. It is apparent that we have watched different versions of TTGL. I assume that you have watched an English language version. I have watched a fan-subbed Japanese version. I have no doubt in my opinion that TTGL is a full embodiment of the aforementioned stereotypes and all the better for it.
 

Nihilism_Is_Bliss

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I don't really have any...
Any real anime cliché works when done right I think. They can just suck really badly in crap anime or if they're way over done.

Dubs trying to pull of japanese cliché's is what gets my blood a-boilin'.


PaulH said:
This is probasbly going to be mirrored by a million people but its the whiny emo kid that becomes a hero cliche.
This kinda annoys me when people say this.
It seems to be a generally accepted statement as it is said so frequently, but WHEN IS THIS THE CASE?!
Very rarely in anime does this apparent stereotype exist! in fact the only one that springs to mind is evangelion... which doesn't really count. Seems more like an american 'hero' stereotype to me.

And while i'm at it: for the 1000th time, cloud is not a whiney emo kid! Just because he has millions of fangirls and is unfortunately a weeaboo magnet, doesn't make him whiney or emo! :'(
 

airrazr77

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Gundam or GTFO.

But i really hate when anime characters say each others names every other minute. Im not talking about just the first name, oh no. They have to say the first middle last etc. It gets old.
Also every character i want to live ends up dying, and they always seem to kill off the love interests. Mainly in Gundam, it's ridiculously predictable.
 

sketch_zeppelin

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"It can't be helped" go back and watch your fav animes and i gaurante this line will pop up in most of them. Anytime someone makes a mistake or somthing bad happens some one is bound to say "It can't be helped" that exact damn line!

It reminds me of the "shrug" in acting. for those of you who haven't studied acting the shrug is a big acting no no because its ambigous in its meaning and its a sign of bad acting because: It's over used, generic, and doesn't do a good job of telling the audiance what an actor is feeling. "It can't be helped" has a similar feel to me. It's just a generic way of saying "lets move the plot along".
 

Jonluw

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Abedeus said:
Jonluw said:
Abedeus said:
Jonluw said:
Abedeus said:
Isaac The Grape said:
Ironic considering your avatar is from Gurren Laggen.
THAT'S NOT HOW MINDMILLS WORK! I mean, that's not what irony means. It means using the words with different meaning than literal.

Also, Gurren Lagann (..spelling, man) goes over the top the right way.
Well, irony isn't that strictly defined actually. As opposed to sarcasm; which would be what you described. I agree that it is ironic that you complain about Gurren Lagann while having a Gurren Lagann avatar.

If Bender can't explain it, nobody can.

Also, I didn't complain about Gurren Lagann. Especially since whenever they meet a tough opponent, they burst right through him the next episode. Which makes sense, since Gurren Lagann is powered by the controlling pilots' fighting spirits and willpower (Spiral Power, the power of evolution, to be exact).
I still hold that if you were complaining about Gurren Lagann, having a picture from Gurren Lagann as your avatar would be ironic. Let's say it's because your complaining implies that you do not like Gurren Lagann, while your avatar implies you does.

Besides, you can't simply define irony by a dictionary entry, there are even several different kinds, and none of them are very clearly defined. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
No. Saying one thing and doing another is hypocrisy, but once again, I didn't complain about Gurren Lagann. That's basically a PARODY of all those new shounen animes that go over the top for no reason, just to get fanservice and young people attracted to flashy battles and so on.
Note the picture at the top of the wikipedia article. Would you argue that that is not irony? His words do not themselves convey anything other than their literal intention; but the context in which they are presented does. As was the case with your (hypothetical) post.

A dictionary has to define a concept in a short space, and therefore the definition will be narrowed down. A dictionary entry cannot possibly hope to explain irony in its entirety, and therefore needs to make do with a simplified explanation of one of the variants of irony; so Bender reading aloud from the dictionary is sadly irrelevant.

Hypothetical scenario: You ask someone to hit you in the stomach, while you are wearing a piece of armor. Somehow, upon impact a piece of the armor tears loose, cutting and injuring you badly.
Would you not agree that this was ironic? That what you wore for protection ended up hurting you worse than what you were trying to protect yourself against?

That's one example of a scenario that is not covered by the dictionary entry.

Tl;dr: I still think someone with a Gurren Lagann avatar complaining about Gurren Lagann would be ironic. (I realize you didn't, but hypothetically)

But listen: I can not be bothered to discuss this any longer. There are and have been more than enough discussions on this subject and, frankly, I am becoming bored with it.
 

Yosato

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This doesn't annoy me in general but it can fail if it isn't used well: The whole 'start of a new season - let's show how powerful the new foe is by having a main character lose!'

I don't mind it so much but it sucks if it isn't used properly, I mean I recently watched the latest episode of pokemon in which, believe it or not, despite being experienced beyond belief, collecting over 36 gym badges and travelling across 4 different nations, Ash and his no doubt level 100 Pikachu are beaten by a noob. Granted, Pikachu couldn't use electric attacks but seriously!? This guy challenged the pokemon league! 4 times! Pikachu should be able to K.O this grass starter in one quick attack!
 

Jonluw

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sketch_zeppelin said:
"It can't be helped" go back and watch your fav animes and i gaurante this line will pop up in most of them. Anytime someone makes a mistake or somthing bad happens some one is bound to say "It can't be helped" that exact damn line!

It reminds me of the "shrug" in acting. for those of you who haven't studied acting the shrug is a big acting no no because its ambigous in its meaning and its a sign of bad acting because: It's over used, generic, and doesn't do a good job of telling the audiance what an actor is feeling. "It can't be helped" has a similar feel to me. It's just a generic way of saying "lets move the plot along".
I think I only heard that line once in Clannad. And I'd say it was fairly well executed:
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sketch_zeppelin

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Jonluw said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
"It can't be helped" go back and watch your fav animes and i gaurante this line will pop up in most of them. Anytime someone makes a mistake or somthing bad happens some one is bound to say "It can't be helped" that exact damn line!

It reminds me of the "shrug" in acting. for those of you who haven't studied acting the shrug is a big acting no no because its ambigous in its meaning and its a sign of bad acting because: It's over used, generic, and doesn't do a good job of telling the audiance what an actor is feeling. "It can't be helped" has a similar feel to me. It's just a generic way of saying "lets move the plot along".
I think I only heard that line once in Clannad. And I'd say it was fairly well executed:
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but why did he need to say it at all? Why not sure or okay? "It can't be helped" doesn't seem to fit any particular situation. Its just somthing generic they say. I honestly think its a translation thing. like when they use a phrase that has no easy translation into our language they just say "It can't be helped"...makes them sound like robots.
 

Jonluw

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sketch_zeppelin said:
Jonluw said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
"It can't be helped" go back and watch your fav animes and i gaurante this line will pop up in most of them. Anytime someone makes a mistake or somthing bad happens some one is bound to say "It can't be helped" that exact damn line!

It reminds me of the "shrug" in acting. for those of you who haven't studied acting the shrug is a big acting no no because its ambigous in its meaning and its a sign of bad acting because: It's over used, generic, and doesn't do a good job of telling the audiance what an actor is feeling. "It can't be helped" has a similar feel to me. It's just a generic way of saying "lets move the plot along".
I think I only heard that line once in Clannad. And I'd say it was fairly well executed:
<youtube=OmKds9KVBgY>
but why did he need to say it at all? Why not sure or okay? "It can't be helped" doesn't seem to fit any particular situation. Its just somthing generic they say. I honestly think its a translation thing. like when they use a phrase that has no easy translation into our language they just say "It can't be helped"...makes them sound like robots.
I interpret it as "I guess there is no other way..." He will have to take one for the team since there's no other way around it. And it certainly fits Sunohara's character.
 

Jonluw

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The matrix boobs. You know very damn well what I'm talking about:

I like to imagine that Highschool of the dead is satirizing excessive fanservice...
 

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Mine's not limited to anime but I absolutely hate it when the protagonist gets tricked by an Obviously Evil [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ObviouslyEvil] villain into destroying the world or turning everyone into giant scrotums or whatever their plans are.