How is it not? Kamina is so over the top ridiculous. I can't see how the creator who make "manly combining" without it being a joke on other animes.Isaac The Grape said:Uhhh, Gurrren Lagann (the subbed version I have at least) is in no way a parody of the aforementioned stereotypes.Nautical Honors Society said:Yes, but Gurren Laggen is a parody of these stereotypes.Isaac The Grape said:Ironic considering your avatar is from Gurren Lagann.Abedeus said:NO! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! I CANNOT BE KILLED!!! NOOOOOOOOOO
*blasted in a huge fireball*
Or.
- My ultimate technique!! YOU ARE FINISHED!!!
boom, booom, booooooom
- There's no way he survived, he must've been destroyed!
Within 15 seconds to 3 episodes from now:
- You thought you could defeat me? Insert Cliche Phrase (worst case - "You are too weak to destroy me!", best being "IT'S MY TURN NOW!!").
Also, what Bleach, Dragon Ball, Slayers and others do - show a super-strong character, then show another even more super character, then EVEN STRONGER.
In Slayers:
Oh, no, it's Gaav, the Demon Lord!! We can't defeat him!!
(mysterious character kills him in 5 seconds after appearing)
Oh no, it's the Hellmaster! We totally have no chance now!!!
(5 minutes before the end of the last episode, new power of the protagonist destroys the previous boss)
IT'S THE MOTHER OF DARKNESS, LORD OF NIGHTMARES... this is getting ridiculous, she's the most powerful being in the universe! Or... could she be just under the top... Well, we'll never know.
No it's notmegaman24681012 said:356? thats a random number.Serperoth said:I know it doesn't really count but...
The fangirls. The "I know 5 japanese words" and "I'm so edgy I watch fucking NARUTO" and "Oh, thought provoking anime? That's for suckers. Now shut up and let me watch pointless crap" types. There's more, but you get my point. I don't fully respect anime as an art form, since for every one Cowboy Bebop, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Neon Genesis Evangelion etc. there's about 356 Axis Powers Hetalia, Death Note, crap like that. Sorry, Japan, make moar TTGL, THEN we'll talk.
I was going to give a list of points on various themes and ideas that appear in the show that point out certain Japanese ideals and the lack of inference of parodying nature that a parody would contain. But I'm not. I can't properly think this late. It is apparent that we have watched different versions of TTGL. I assume that you have watched an English language version. I have watched a fan-subbed Japanese version. I have no doubt in my opinion that TTGL is a full embodiment of the aforementioned stereotypes and all the better for it.Nautical Honors Society said:How is it not? Kamina is so over the top ridiculous. I can't see how the creator who make "manly combining" without it being a joke on other animes.Isaac The Grape said:Uhhh, Gurrren Lagann (the subbed version I have at least) is in no way a parody of the aforementioned stereotypes.Nautical Honors Society said:Yes, but Gurren Laggen is a parody of these stereotypes.Isaac The Grape said:Ironic considering your avatar is from Gurren Lagann.Abedeus said:NO! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! I CANNOT BE KILLED!!! NOOOOOOOOOO
*blasted in a huge fireball*
Or.
- My ultimate technique!! YOU ARE FINISHED!!!
boom, booom, booooooom
- There's no way he survived, he must've been destroyed!
Within 15 seconds to 3 episodes from now:
- You thought you could defeat me? Insert Cliche Phrase (worst case - "You are too weak to destroy me!", best being "IT'S MY TURN NOW!!").
Also, what Bleach, Dragon Ball, Slayers and others do - show a super-strong character, then show another even more super character, then EVEN STRONGER.
In Slayers:
Oh, no, it's Gaav, the Demon Lord!! We can't defeat him!!
(mysterious character kills him in 5 seconds after appearing)
Oh no, it's the Hellmaster! We totally have no chance now!!!
(5 minutes before the end of the last episode, new power of the protagonist destroys the previous boss)
IT'S THE MOTHER OF DARKNESS, LORD OF NIGHTMARES... this is getting ridiculous, she's the most powerful being in the universe! Or... could she be just under the top... Well, we'll never know.
This kinda annoys me when people say this.PaulH said:This is probasbly going to be mirrored by a million people but its the whiny emo kid that becomes a hero cliche.
Note the picture at the top of the wikipedia article. Would you argue that that is not irony? His words do not themselves convey anything other than their literal intention; but the context in which they are presented does. As was the case with your (hypothetical) post.Abedeus said:No. Saying one thing and doing another is hypocrisy, but once again, I didn't complain about Gurren Lagann. That's basically a PARODY of all those new shounen animes that go over the top for no reason, just to get fanservice and young people attracted to flashy battles and so on.Jonluw said:I still hold that if you were complaining about Gurren Lagann, having a picture from Gurren Lagann as your avatar would be ironic. Let's say it's because your complaining implies that you do not like Gurren Lagann, while your avatar implies you does.Abedeus said:Jonluw said:Well, irony isn't that strictly defined actually. As opposed to sarcasm; which would be what you described. I agree that it is ironic that you complain about Gurren Lagann while having a Gurren Lagann avatar.Abedeus said:THAT'S NOT HOW MINDMILLS WORK! I mean, that's not what irony means. It means using the words with different meaning than literal.Isaac The Grape said:Ironic considering your avatar is from Gurren Laggen.
Also, Gurren Lagann (..spelling, man) goes over the top the right way.
If Bender can't explain it, nobody can.
Also, I didn't complain about Gurren Lagann. Especially since whenever they meet a tough opponent, they burst right through him the next episode. Which makes sense, since Gurren Lagann is powered by the controlling pilots' fighting spirits and willpower (Spiral Power, the power of evolution, to be exact).
Besides, you can't simply define irony by a dictionary entry, there are even several different kinds, and none of them are very clearly defined. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
I think I only heard that line once in Clannad. And I'd say it was fairly well executed:sketch_zeppelin said:"It can't be helped" go back and watch your fav animes and i gaurante this line will pop up in most of them. Anytime someone makes a mistake or somthing bad happens some one is bound to say "It can't be helped" that exact damn line!
It reminds me of the "shrug" in acting. for those of you who haven't studied acting the shrug is a big acting no no because its ambigous in its meaning and its a sign of bad acting because: It's over used, generic, and doesn't do a good job of telling the audiance what an actor is feeling. "It can't be helped" has a similar feel to me. It's just a generic way of saying "lets move the plot along".
but why did he need to say it at all? Why not sure or okay? "It can't be helped" doesn't seem to fit any particular situation. Its just somthing generic they say. I honestly think its a translation thing. like when they use a phrase that has no easy translation into our language they just say "It can't be helped"...makes them sound like robots.Jonluw said:I think I only heard that line once in Clannad. And I'd say it was fairly well executed:sketch_zeppelin said:"It can't be helped" go back and watch your fav animes and i gaurante this line will pop up in most of them. Anytime someone makes a mistake or somthing bad happens some one is bound to say "It can't be helped" that exact damn line!
It reminds me of the "shrug" in acting. for those of you who haven't studied acting the shrug is a big acting no no because its ambigous in its meaning and its a sign of bad acting because: It's over used, generic, and doesn't do a good job of telling the audiance what an actor is feeling. "It can't be helped" has a similar feel to me. It's just a generic way of saying "lets move the plot along".
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I interpret it as "I guess there is no other way..." He will have to take one for the team since there's no other way around it. And it certainly fits Sunohara's character.sketch_zeppelin said:but why did he need to say it at all? Why not sure or okay? "It can't be helped" doesn't seem to fit any particular situation. Its just somthing generic they say. I honestly think its a translation thing. like when they use a phrase that has no easy translation into our language they just say "It can't be helped"...makes them sound like robots.Jonluw said:I think I only heard that line once in Clannad. And I'd say it was fairly well executed:sketch_zeppelin said:"It can't be helped" go back and watch your fav animes and i gaurante this line will pop up in most of them. Anytime someone makes a mistake or somthing bad happens some one is bound to say "It can't be helped" that exact damn line!
It reminds me of the "shrug" in acting. for those of you who haven't studied acting the shrug is a big acting no no because its ambigous in its meaning and its a sign of bad acting because: It's over used, generic, and doesn't do a good job of telling the audiance what an actor is feeling. "It can't be helped" has a similar feel to me. It's just a generic way of saying "lets move the plot along".
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I like to imagine that Highschool of the dead is satirizing excessive fanservice...Mordwyl said:The matrix boobs. You know very damn well what I'm talking about:
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