Your Music pet peeves

[Vault101]

Creepy screamo/growling instead of singing. I will never understand why people would listen to something they can't understand and sounds silly.

This. A million times this.

Also, I dislike any rap I've heard thus far, it's just a person talking. If I wanted that, I'd listen to poetry readings (and those can actually be pretty cool).

people talking whole maintain flow and rhythm with the music (production can make or break a rap song)

 

[Vault101]

Also, I dislike any rap I've heard thus far, it's just a person talking.

Come on this is just silly. The beats and production are a huge part, as well as the power of the rhythm and how it interacts with the lyrics.

Let me rephrase then.

It's just someone talking with what is almost always one or more synths in the background.

Seriously, I wish people would learn to fucking play instruments rather than getting a keyboard and turning it to the "drums" setting.

Honestly, considering all 50 Cent and Jay-Z and all those other guys talk about is either money or bitches and hoes, they can fuck right off. They have far too much money for what they do.

*sigh*

1."learn to play an instrumant!" is bullshit for a number of reasons..mainly because your missing the point entirely, music does not require instruments that need to be "played" in the tradition sense of the word...talent is talent whatever the medium

2. production actually takes skill to sound good

3. if youre listening to Jay z and 50cents songs about money bitches and hoes then obviously thats the problem..your not listening to stuff with more skill/better subject matter

I also get the impression that your veiw on rap is coming from the "popular" stuff

 

[repeating integers]

Try "A Thousand Suns" by Linkin Park. A concept album about war, corruption and the atomic bomb with great thought given to presentation (like sequencing and production) and lyrics. Caused a massive split straight down the middle of fans and critics - between those that understood it and loved it, and those that only looked at albums as collections of songs rather than a whole. Also, it sounds very, very little like "normal" Linkin Park (nothing remotely metal about it, for starters).

The full thing:

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I actually really liked Thousand suns..didn't get all the hate

and now I associate "The Catalyst" with Mass effect 3....for obvious reasons (seriously it totally fits)

I got all the hate, but just disagreed with it. LP are currently doing a Radiohead and intentionally ditching about half their fanbase (presumably the stereotypical 13-year-old pseudo-metalhead) - the only ones left will be the ones that can handle change, with more varied music tastes. I approve, personally.

 

[Kerboom]

Also, I dislike any rap I've heard thus far, it's just a person talking.

Come on this is just silly. The beats and production are a huge part, as well as the power of the rhythm and how it interacts with the lyrics.

Let me rephrase then.

It's just someone talking with what is almost always one or more synths in the background.

Seriously, I wish people would learn to fucking play instruments rather than getting a keyboard and turning it to the "drums" setting.

Honestly, considering all 50 Cent and Jay-Z and all those other guys talk about is either money or bitches and hoes, they can fuck right off. They have far too much money for what they do.

*sigh*

1."learn to play an instrumant!" is bullshit for a number of reasons..mainly because your missing the point entirely, music does not require instruments that need to be "played" in the tradition sense of the word...talent is talent whatever the medium

2. production actually takes skill to sound good

3. if youre listening to Jay z and 50cents songs about money bitches and hoes then obviously thats the problem..your not listening to stuff with more skill/better subject matter

I also get the impression that your veiw on rap is coming from the "popular" stuff

1: I don't describe it as "music" unless it has a "musical" instrument.

2: If you say so, but I never really said anything about that, so ok?

3: If I want subject matter, I'll go to poetry. It's still going to be some guy sitting there talking, and I'd much rather read poetry than listen to some guy pretend to be talented.

 

[AnarchistFish]

Also, I dislike any rap I've heard thus far, it's just a person talking.

Come on this is just silly. The beats and production are a huge part, as well as the power of the rhythm and how it interacts with the lyrics.

Let me rephrase then.

It's just someone talking with what is almost always one or more synths in the background.

Seriously, I wish people would learn to fucking play instruments rather than getting a keyboard and turning it to the "drums" setting.

Honestly, considering all 50 Cent and Jay-Z and all those other guys talk about is either money or bitches and hoes, they can fuck right off. They have far too much money for what they do.

So those are the only people kind of people you base the genre off of? Well there's your problem.

 

[Vault101]

1: I don't describe it as "music" unless it has a "musical" instrument.

and there your wrong....or if not that a little closed minded

[quote/]2: If you say so, but I never really said anything about that, so ok? [/quote]

usually the refusal to call something "music" for arbitrary reasons imply s you think its "inferior" in some way... maybe this isn't what you ment, ok then

[quote/]3: If I want subject matter, I'll go to poetry. It's still going to be some guy sitting there talking, and I'd much rather read poetry than listen to some guy pretend to be talented.[/B][/quote]

you don't have to like rap...but

subject matter aside do you think the person who wrote the poetry has some kind of talent?

if so then why not the guy who not only wrote it...but delivered it with flow and rhyming skill?

 

[Vault101]

I got all the hate, but just disagreed with it. LP are currently doing a Radiohead and intentionally ditching about half their fanbase (presumably the stereotypical 13-year-old pseudo-metalhead) - the only ones left will be the ones that can handle change, with more varied music tastes. I approve, personally.

that's a very interesting way of looking at it

 

[AnarchistFish]

1: I don't describe it as "music" unless it has a "musical" instrument.

This is really really silly.

A lot of hip hop uses instruments anyway

 

[BlackStar42]

Acoustic songs with way too audible guitar squeaks, from the strings or something. To me it sounds like: "Look, I'm playing this acoustically, aren't I sensitive and sophisticated? WELL?! ISN'T IT BRILLIANT?!"

In fairness, sometimes it's hard to stop that happening. I don't understand why anyone would try to do it on purpose though.

My peeve would probably be the media referring to every single performer as an "artist" when a fair few of them didn't even write their own songs. Unless you created art, you're not an artist.

 

[hazabaza1]

Oh, and all dubstep. All of it.

Noooo guy-with-the-stephen-fry-avatar-who-usually-comes-across-as-pretty-cool
Don't fall for it
Not all dubstep is wubwubwub-y.

Unless you actually do hate all dubstep. In which case, oh well.

(I wonder how many times I've linked Burial on this site...)

Eh. That was alright. Just a bit repetitive for my tastes.

 

[David Bjur]

YOU AGAIN.
I'm sorry, but I'll have to agree to this guy, I listen to all kinds of music, but sadly I hang with alot of "metal-heads" who mocks rap, electronic, pop and every mainstream kind of music which makes me a bit sad that somebody can be so ignorant. Oh, and when I try to defend mainstream music, they might start mocking me for having "bad taste".
Hooray for taking entertainment seriously.

Oh, I started often discussions how even some of the most popular artists like Lady Gaga are actually quite skillfull in their professions. Got crazy looks at first because I used to be one of those metalheads but I did not even need to put effort into "winning" the debate. My dang music teacher in school taught us to analyze music and hear certain things out without the need of sheets. Haven't lost that ability yet.

What is also funny if I host a party and some guys ask me after a while about the music that plays because it is so good but they have trouble to put it into a genre or even finding out who the singer is. Love to stun them with the fact that they are enjoying popmusic in this very moment.

"POPMUSIC?! This barely counts as popmusic, it's on the edge of being regular rock. <.<"
Yeah, why don't you just admit that we are diverse creatures that likes separate and several music styles? Unluckily, people has a need to feel different and special, and will thus try to defend their not-so-mainstream music to death. Why can't we all just get along?

 

[lacktheknack]

What I can't stand in music is mostly women screaming nonsense out of tune (I am looking at you, Katy, Christina, Rihanna and actually about 90% of the RnB genre!)

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Katy is a triumph of applied autotune, and keeps her screeching to a minimum, and Rihanna doesn't fit your peeve in the slightest.

(Christina does, although that's her entire schtick.)

Then maybe we have different tresholds for screaming. All I ever hear in Rihanna's songs is whiny screaming, the worst being "Russian Roulette".
And Katy Perry... Well, she is autotuned, but still screams apparently out of tune (or in tune, and the tune is just awful), like in "Firework"

Yes, I heard these two songs often enough to even know their names. I stopped using radio now.

Yeah, choosing their worst examples isn't too helpful.

Katy Perry's "Last Friday Night", "The One That Got Away", and "Hot n Cold" don't fit the "she screams" assertion.

Rihanna's "Man Down", "Take a Bow", "We Found Love", "Umbrella", etc... also don't fit. The only "shrieky" songs of hers I can think of are "Russian Roulette" and "Where Have You Been".

 

[Thaliur]

What I can't stand in music is mostly women screaming nonsense out of tune (I am looking at you, Katy, Christina, Rihanna and actually about 90% of the RnB genre!)

?

Katy is a triumph of applied autotune, and keeps her screeching to a minimum, and Rihanna doesn't fit your peeve in the slightest.

(Christina does, although that's her entire schtick.)

Then maybe we have different tresholds for screaming. All I ever hear in Rihanna's songs is whiny screaming, the worst being "Russian Roulette".
And Katy Perry... Well, she is autotuned, but still screams apparently out of tune (or in tune, and the tune is just awful), like in "Firework"

Yes, I heard these two songs often enough to even know their names. I stopped using radio now.

Yeah, choosing their worst examples isn't too helpful.

Katy Perry's "Last Friday Night", "The One That Got Away", and "Hot n Cold" don't fit the "she screams" assertion.

Rihanna's "Man Down", "Take a Bow", "We Found Love", "Umbrella", etc... also don't fit. The only "shrieky" songs of hers I can think of are "Russian Roulette" and "Where Have You Been".

OK, it's getting difficult for me now, because I do not know all the examples you gave (at least not by their titles), but Last Friday Night is definitely an ear-piercing shriek song, and of the Rihanna songs I can only recognise "We Found Love", which is not only unbearably annoying, but also contains a fair amount of unwarranted whiney shrieking, although indeed not as bad as Katy Perry or Christina Aguilera.

 

[lacktheknack]

What I can't stand in music is mostly women screaming nonsense out of tune (I am looking at you, Katy, Christina, Rihanna and actually about 90% of the RnB genre!)

?

Katy is a triumph of applied autotune, and keeps her screeching to a minimum, and Rihanna doesn't fit your peeve in the slightest.

(Christina does, although that's her entire schtick.)

Then maybe we have different tresholds for screaming. All I ever hear in Rihanna's songs is whiny screaming, the worst being "Russian Roulette".
And Katy Perry... Well, she is autotuned, but still screams apparently out of tune (or in tune, and the tune is just awful), like in "Firework"

Yes, I heard these two songs often enough to even know their names. I stopped using radio now.

Yeah, choosing their worst examples isn't too helpful.

Katy Perry's "Last Friday Night", "The One That Got Away", and "Hot n Cold" don't fit the "she screams" assertion.

Rihanna's "Man Down", "Take a Bow", "We Found Love", "Umbrella", etc... also don't fit. The only "shrieky" songs of hers I can think of are "Russian Roulette" and "Where Have You Been".

OK, it's getting difficult for me now, because I do not know all the examples you gave (at least not by their titles), but Last Friday Night is definitely an ear-piercing shriek song, and of the Rihanna songs I can only recognise "We Found Love", which is not only unbearably annoying, but also contains a fair amount of unwarranted whiney shrieking, although indeed not as bad as Katy Perry or Christina Aguilera.

I'm so confused here. You are aware that using your upper vocal register is not "shrieking", right? If anything, "We Found Love" was reserved.

Although if you think this is "shrieky", I'll eat ALL of my hats.

<youtube=J3UjJ4wKLkg>

 

[Exocet]

I hate, HATE! songs that remix the electronica remix of the remix of an 80's song.
Or less specifically, serial remixes.

I like Sweet Dreams by Eurythmics, the Marilyn Manson remix was awesome....but twenty fucking years on, and I'm still hearing remixes.

CUT.THAT.SHIT.OUT

 

[Thaliur]

I'm so confused here. You are aware that using your upper vocal register is not "shrieking", right? If anything, "We Found Love" was reserved.

Although if you think this is "shrieky", I'll eat ALL of my hats.

Sorry, I cannot watch the video, because apparently a german institution is able to block an American webiste for showing music videos by Americans... quite ridiculous...


I am perfectly aware that using the upper vocal registers is not shrieking, but similarly, there is a huge difference between "using" and "abusing". There are people with a voice that is capable of stable sound in such tunes. She is not one of them.

 

[PatrickXD]

I used to hate the whole 'man and his guitar' thing too. But the Mountain Goats changed that for me. It's not about women, it's about life, and John Darnielle is just such a good songwriter that I can't say a bad word about his lyrics. It's 'man and his guitar' music like Ed Sheeran that really grinds my gears.

 

[DustyDrB]

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Not really. But [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8gdqWTgi9s] I [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkBacp4I8qw] do [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkZI7WZWOo] tend [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFHlK8ZXgvE] to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk3mAX5xdxo] like [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFx5tP8JdPI&list=UUIWrFV81IczsKZHR8VKQG9w&index=10&feature=plcp] singers [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyCa35_mOg] with [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4_dqZA4v00] bad [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zpDwfXtFfI] (or really rough [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URp-Dbhr7EU]) voices [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38HomZC_Dds]. Maybe not actually bad...but...flawed in some noticeable way. It's endearing to me. Not that I don't listen to any people who can really sing, but I just like those rough qualities to a person's voice.

Somehow this describes some of my favorite singers or singers with voices I enjoy most. Oddly enough most of those I find in the pop genre.

Spoiler

and

spring to mind.

It also doesn't help that I prefer female singers.

Is pop a genre? I never thought of it as one. If it is, then it has to be just behind "indie" for horribly vague genre names. Anyway, I like that song you embedded. It's folk, and I like folk. You might like Laura Marling (though she can sing very well, actually). I like a good many female singers, but I don't think many fit the "bad singer" category (Kim Gordon might be the closest).

I also didn't mean to make it seem like I only like those kind of singers. In actuality, I'm also a huge fan of old R&B/Soul (Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke, Bill Withers, Al Green) [footnote]And I'm aware that people today who claim to idolize and try to mimic these artists tend to be the ones who me cringe.[/footnote]It's just that the rougher kind of music I linked so much before is where I feel more at home. It connects to me the most.