Your Music pet peeves

[piinyouri]

Considering you wanted another one, here you go...

Spoiler

Please Don't Kill Me...

I happen to dislike Sunn, and I like atmospheric stuff, that's why I listen to shoegaze, and Similar sounding stuff like the Angelic Process, and Jesu. Which you should probably check out if you are a fan of Sunn by the way.

I rarely like growled vocals, and Sunn has that in spades. Plus they stick to the same style throughout, and don't really change things up a bit. The same with most Drone bands really, not just Sunn. Well, That's just my opinion about Sunn anyway.

It's really not my thing at all, but Apples and Oranges I suppose. Many people seem to like them including you, so what do I know.

Nah it's okay. I just thought was about to devolve into "Sunn isnt music lol" jokes and just wanted to have a nice discussion.
It's cool if you don't enjoy them.

And I apologize it wasn't my intention to make it sound like all people who like atmosphere enjoy Sunn. Just that I do.

I LOVE Jesu. First time I heard Stanlow on the tv randomly it just sort of entranced me.
Mmm I've heard of Angelic Process. I'll check'em out sometime, thank you.

It is true a lot of Sunn songs use very harsh vocals, but I would like to point out they have a number of songs that are purely instrumental. Those are the ones I tend to like best.
Earth is very similar but they tend to go for a less evil atmosphere. Specially with their last album. It was very....eclectic I must say.

I'm not here to attack your music preferences. I like what I like, you do too.
I just wanna talks abouts it in a nice manner. : )

That's okay, most of my original post was satire anyway.

I just love to express my feelings towards the band, everytime someone mentions them.

Also, about their lack of chords.

Did you know they have a Parody band called \\\Maytag.


Hilarious stuff!

I kind of figured it was, but I wasnt sure and didnt want to make the situation worse.

Yup I've heard and seen them. I love how they combined a parody of Sunn and Immortal's video for Call of the Wintermoon.
I imagine Sunn would approve. They dont take themselves too seriously at the end of the day.(their interviews have shown this, despite the super stoic stage shows)

Yeah in my circle of friends we have joke.
"A music discussion isn't truly fun till someone mentions Sunn."
It wasn't intended to rhyme, it just did.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Nope, nor am I a fan of Metal! I'm a Psychedelic Rocker, and one of the best modern day bands is MGMT, people who started off as a band that was Electronic (As well as Psych Rock). though I do prefer Congratulations to Oracular Spectacular. And most of the time, Electronic sounds fake to me. I sort of have this good ear with Music, and when something sounds fake to me, it most likely is.

riiiight...so you didnt like their electronic songs?

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its got NOTHING to do with being "fake" but all about sound and emotion

back to Nine Inch nails


his use of sounds/electronic/distortions is angry and gritty, it sets the mood for the song

or take one of his earlyer songs, composed of nothing but what you call "fake" ness


belive it or not I actually find the music incredibly pleasing to my ears

'Kids' is okay. I prefer songs like 'Metanoia' or 'Siberian Breaks' or 'Congratulations' or 'Alien Days'


Look, to each their own, buddy, but I prefer my music to sound real. If you like that kind of music, be my guest. I just don't like it. Nor do I like those two songs you posted up there.

 

[Vault101]

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Look, to each their own, buddy, but I prefer my music to sound real. If you like that kind of music, be my guest. I just don't like it. Nor do I like those two songs you posted up there.

not saying you had to like any of it any of it (I knew you wouldnt) what I was saying is that there are reasons for using certain techniques/methods....and its got nothing to do with lack of talent/vision or skill

 

[piinyouri]

If you're talking about music being real, isnt it pretty real how Reznor is singing? No programs to tune his voice, nothing.
You can tell by the imperfections in his singing. The music itself is very synthetic, as it's intended.
But then Reznors singing on PHM has always struck me as deeply soulful.

Not knocking MGMT, as I enjoy them from time to time, nor am I disparaging your tastes.
Just bringing up a point/opinion.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

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Look, to each their own, buddy, but I prefer my music to sound real. If you like that kind of music, be my guest. I just don't like it. Nor do I like those two songs you posted up there.

not saying you had to like any of it any of it (I knew you wouldnt) what I was saying is that there are reasons for using certain techniques/methods....and its got nothing to do with lack of talent/vision or skill

Oh, I wasn't saying it was! Or if I did, I didn't mean to and I am sorry. I just don't like it. I understand that it's hard to make a computer to sound like a whole Orchestra, and it's hard for it to play in the correct time and the correct notes. However, it's just as hard as to assemble a real Orchestra and have them really play the music correctly as well.

I just prefer real Orchestras to fake Orchestras. I understand it's hard to do, but it's not my thing. Sorry if I said it was easy, cause it's not, but I just don't like it.

 

[Vault101]

Oh, I wasn't saying it was! Or if I did, I didn't mean to and I am sorry. I just don't like it. I understand that it's hard to make a computer to sound like a whole Orchestra, and it's hard for it to play in the correct time and the correct notes. However, it's just as hard as to assemble a real Orchestra and have them really play the music correctly as well.

I just prefer real Orchestras to fake Orchestras. I understand it's hard to do, but it's not my thing. Sorry if I said it was easy, cause it's not, but I just don't like it.

ah..well thats a seperate thing then..as opoased to synthetic methons in music

no harm ment

 

[GartarkMusik]

I hate it whenever a song (primarily metal) starts out with a promising verse, but throws any chance at quality music down the crapper with a banal, boring, flow breaking, shallow, uninteresting, uninspired chorus.

Any particular examples? I'm interested in what you have to say here.

 

[BathorysGraveland]

Constant blast beats. I love death metal, so of course blast beat drumming is a common standard. However, when a band includes nothing BUT blast beats, it becomes so fucking dull and monotonous.

Guitar tones is another big one. For death metal and black metal, if the guitar sound is too clean and sterilized, the whole package just sounds like complete uninspired boring shit (ala Hate Eternal).

They're my two big ones, anyway.

 

[piinyouri]

Here's one: Bedroom black metal

I admit I only have a handful of bands in this genre I like in the first place but...super hazy production + continuous blastbeats under near constant non varied tremolo riffing with that whispering shriek and usually has a violin or string instrument(keys) laying on top of it all is just dull.

Dull dull dull dull.

I'm all for everyone making their own music, but it would benefit us all if you sound like you took more than 5 minutes to arrange the songs.

 

[Iszfury]

Lack of context. I swear, virtually any musical technique, whether it be hazy production (as mentioned), growling, screaming, croaking, repetition, overdubbing, etc., can be used to great and emotional effect, yet only if it's used well and with some kind of taste/direction in mind. Also, whoever claimed Dream Theater can't perform live deserves to be slapped - I went to a show in Washington with Symphony X as an opener - they're practically flawless.
For those that slam on Death/Extreme Metal: the genre includes some of the best-appreciated progressive artists in the entirety of music - Ron Jarzombek, Devin Townsend, Mikael Akerfeldt, and bands such as Cynic/Atheist,etc.... I find that limited exposure is often the greatest contributor to ignorance and a distaste in the genre, as most experiences are usually quite temporal and with generally shit bands (Cradle of Filth, Job for a Cowboy, Lamb of God, most Deathcore).

Bah. I'll let the music do the talking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvVf1C8tGlc

 

[Iszfury]

Here's one: Bedroom black metal

I admit I only have a handful of bands in this genre I like in the first place but...super hazy production + continuous blastbeats under near constant non varied tremolo riffing with that whispering shriek and usually has a violin or string instrument(keys) laying on top of it all is just dull.

Dull dull dull dull.

I'm all for everyone making their own music, but it would benefit us all if you sound like you took more than 5 minutes to arrange the songs.

OH MY GOD ITS THE BLACK SATANS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOibIxl3dLo

 

[piinyouri]

Here's one: Bedroom black metal

I admit I only have a handful of bands in this genre I like in the first place but...super hazy production + continuous blastbeats under near constant non varied tremolo riffing with that whispering shriek and usually has a violin or string instrument(keys) laying on top of it all is just dull.

Dull dull dull dull.

I'm all for everyone making their own music, but it would benefit us all if you sound like you took more than 5 minutes to arrange the songs.

OH MY GOD ITS THE BLACK SATANS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOibIxl3dLo

Ahahaha! Except I'm pretty sure that is a joke band,fully aware of how silly it's being. A parody of black metal.

The bands to which I'm referring are almost always very very serious about their music art and you should be serious and take it serious too.
Because it's so serious.

That could might be another pet peeve of mine. When a band takes themselves so seriously they arn't even up for a little self-deprecating fun.

Spoiler: AND THEY YOIK AND SING

Oh and you shouldn't mention Jarzombek.
He pretty much makes me want to give up playing music because next to him I am the equivalent of a gorilla swatting bees and my hands are made of very awkwardly shaped bricks.

 

[Iszfury]

Here's one: Bedroom black metal

I admit I only have a handful of bands in this genre I like in the first place but...super hazy production + continuous blastbeats under near constant non varied tremolo riffing with that whispering shriek and usually has a violin or string instrument(keys) laying on top of it all is just dull.

Dull dull dull dull.

I'm all for everyone making their own music, but it would benefit us all if you sound like you took more than 5 minutes to arrange the songs.

OH MY GOD ITS THE BLACK SATANS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOibIxl3dLo

Ahahaha! Except I'm pretty sure that is a joke band,fully aware of how silly it's being. A parody of black metal.

The bands to which I'm referring are almost always very very serious about their music art and you should be serious and take it serious too.
Because it's so serious.

Yeah, and I'm fully aware of the fact that it's a parody. Problem is the vast majority of bedroom black metal is utter tripe, and this is...welll... indistinguishable to the point where I, at first, was convinced it was totally legit. I do enjoy some Black Metal along the lines of Melechesh (just for fun), but I'm really more into Death/Thrash. Ah well.

Perfect self-deprecation right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj2EzOurU7Y
He has a big..

"Oh and you shouldn't mention Jarzombek..."
No problem. He practically hands out musically-oriented emotional breakdowns. My self-esteem will never fully self-repair...

 

[Rickolas Walrus]

My pet peeves would be sounding too much like other groups, the one guy with an acoustic guitar singing the same song with the same chords just with different words, most (but not all) acoustic renditions of non-acoustic songs, excessive use of autotune, and concept albums (although I can still like songs off a concept album). I mean, I like the IDEA of a concept album, but hardly anyone ever does it correctly. They usually end up being completely random songs with vaguely similar/related lyrics. I think the only concept albums I've liked are done by Dream Theater

Creepy screamo/growling instead of singing. I will never understand why people would listen to something they can't understand and sounds silly.

I concur with this TO A DEGREE, im not going to outlaw all screaming, because when used as a musical tool to add strength/meaning to certain points in a song thats fine. Its the constant stuff i don't understand,

I'm with you on this on. I can handle growls and screams perfectly fine. But I simply don't get why they would do it constantly. Most growlers (at least in the local scene) are hardly qualified to be diverse with their vocals and it just makes metal bland most of the time ;S

I guess for the rest I don't really have any pet peeves. I'm also into pop so... yeah.

I think it's just the fact that so many screaming/growling vocalists sound the same. I mean I like music like this, but I REALLY like the bands that have distinct voices. August Burns Red, older Thrice, Eluveitie, and Maximum the Hormone all have really distinct voices in my opinion and I feel like that sets them apart from everyone else

Captcha: that hurts. Indeed, it can if done incorrectly

 

[piinyouri]

I do enjoy some Black Metal along the lines of Melechesh (just for fun), but I'm really more into Death/Thrash. Ah well.

-snip-

Perfect self-deprecation right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj2EzOurU7Y
He has a big..

Spoiler: Thrashy death mayhaps?

Heavy Devy is a god among men.
He can do no wrong. Except killing the skullet, but he even made that work in the end.

 

[Iszfury]

I do enjoy some Black Metal along the lines of Melechesh (just for fun), but I'm really more into Death/Thrash. Ah well.

-snip-

Perfect self-deprecation right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj2EzOurU7Y
He has a big..

Spoiler: Thrashy death mayhaps?

Heavy Devy is a god among men.
He can do no wrong. Except killing the skullet, but he even made that work in the end.

Yes, and I'm appalled at the utter lack of gospel in his namesake. The man is severely underappreciated, the eclectic genius of Modern Prog Rock, par say. Also, a master producer, but that's an entirely distinct subject ^^"

Hmmmm...awesome sample.
Perhaps Progressive Industrial Thrash?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbfXHMAt34
You may need to enhance the quality and turn the volume up a tad to get it to full effect, the track is rather muted.

ED: Coroner is from Switzerland. As am I. This brings great joy to my heart ...

 

[Vault101]

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Year Zero (Ninch Inch Nails) is awsome..I don't have much experience with concept albums (being part of the download generation)

but the songs "meanings" become more clear when given context (not that they are non-sencial on their own) it has a very strong narrative (and aparently one crazy ARG at the time)

I even think year Zero reminds me of ME3

 

[Iszfury]

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Year Zero (Ninch Inch Nails) is awsome..I don't have much experience with concept albums (being part of the download generation)

but the songs "meanings" become more clear when given context (not that they are non-sencial on their own) it has a very strong narrative (and aparently one crazy ARG at the time)

I even think year Zero reminds me of ME3

I quite like Industrial! I just wish I had more exposure ....any suggestions?

Yeah, it's also quite unfortunate concept albums have gone down the toilet, considering the trend towards the DL of individual songs as opposed to the recognition of the album as the prime listening format...it behaves as a reducing agent for the context of the art as a whole and totally downplays the significance of the listening experience.

 

[Vault101]

I quite like Industrial! I just wish I had more exposure ....any suggestions?

Yeah, it's also quite unfortunate concept albums have gone down the toilet, considering the trend towards the DL of individual songs as opposed to the recognition of the album as the prime listening format...it behaves as a reducing agent for the context of the art as a whole and totally downplays the significance of the listening experience.

unfortunatly Nine Inch Nails is all I know
there is Skinny Puppy..

I did like to buy albums and "discover" them...but its just to hit and miss for me..I'll usually go witht he safer bet of downloading stuff induvidually