Your opinion on Naked Body Scanning

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Insanum

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Im all for it, At the end of the day it will make sure i dont die horribly due to a bomb. I would object depending on how the picture's we're stored though. I dont want pictures of 100's of people all of a sudden appearing on the net.

Ok, After reading that i know it sounds dim, But you know what i mean.
 

DemonicVixen

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AkJay said:
I think the airport security has gotten a little out of hand... thankfully I'm white enough for them not to suspect me for anything.
Erm i hope that wasnt a racist remark coz it sounded like it. Skin has nothing to do with it.

To be honest, a vague idea of what the person looks like doesn't entirely bother me. Yes its over the top and no i do not like the idea that my "bits" are on show but i guess in the long run it might just be safer. Im suprised they don't just get everyone to come in naked and scan them after that incase of items being shoved in certain places of the body or swallowed.
 

Jacobistheshiz

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The problem with people nowadays is that they believe it's okay for government and big buisness. To frisk them, or scan them with computers. Some people think it's better to be scanned than frisked. But what if we didn't have any of this security.
Most people believe restricting everyones wepons is how we make the world safer. This has not worked. And won't. Because people who want to harm others will find a way to do it because determination is a stud. What if everyone on a plane was carrying a firearm? Then when Crazy Bob and his Terrorist pals hop up and try to highjack the plane. They will be no more powerful then the rest of the passengers. Even if they had AA-12's. A hundred people with handguns are still gonna be able to over come the attackers.
Think about it.
 

clairedelune

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Kuchinawa212 said:
! The metal scanners that cause airport sequirity to deck you if you have even three cents change in your pocket ain't enough? GAH! well yeah I guess it's nice as then they know if your smuggling stuff on or not. So I guess I'm for it

Unless they post naked pictures of me on the internet. Then I gotta punch someone
Apparently not, if that guy was able to get on the Detroit plane on Christmas with the underwear bomb.

PS: Good summary of points here.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/12/point-counterpoint_full-body_s.html

I, too, would like to see George Clooney's wang.
 

Giovanto

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Sounds relatively easy to work around. I doubt many suicide bombers have a problem just hiding something explosive in there ass or stomach. The scanner doesn't help there.
 

AkJay

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DemonicKitten said:
AkJay said:
I think the airport security has gotten a little out of hand... thankfully I'm white enough for them not to suspect me for anything.
Erm i hope that wasnt a racist remark coz it sounded like it. Skin has nothing to do with it.

To be honest, a vague idea of what the person looks like doesn't entirely bother me. Yes its over the top and no i do not like the idea that my "bits" are on show but i guess in the long run it might just be safer. Im suprised they don't just get everyone to come in naked and scan them after that incase of items being shoved in certain places of the body or swallowed.
It was a slightly racist remark, but I'm just poking fun at how all the obvious Muslims (accents, brown skin, turbans, etc.) get stopped for "random" extra screening, where as I am white as a ghost and have never been stopped. Racial profiling is disgustingly wrong, but tell that to the airlines, not me.
 

MrBibblz

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"Unlike the X ray radiation used to scan luggage, this radiation is said to be harmless."

$20 says that 6 months down the road they're going to find out this thing can give you 4 different types of cancer and a crazy strain of the flu that we'll need to run panic over because they don't have any vaccine for.
 

Kuchinawa212

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clairedelune said:
I, too, would like to see George Clooney's wang.
Umm... Well You can look at it. Don't email me the link XD

Thanks for the article, going read it now
 

DemonicVixen

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AkJay said:
DemonicKitten said:
AkJay said:
I think the airport security has gotten a little out of hand... thankfully I'm white enough for them not to suspect me for anything.
Erm i hope that wasnt a racist remark coz it sounded like it. Skin has nothing to do with it.

To be honest, a vague idea of what the person looks like doesn't entirely bother me. Yes its over the top and no i do not like the idea that my "bits" are on show but i guess in the long run it might just be safer. Im suprised they don't just get everyone to come in naked and scan them after that incase of items being shoved in certain places of the body or swallowed.
It was a slightly racist remark, but I'm just poking fun at how all the obvious Muslims (accents, brown skin, turbans, etc.) get stopped for "random" extra screening, where as I am white as a ghost and have never been stopped. Racial profiling is disgustingly wrong, but tell that to the airlines, not me.
True, you have a valid point, i guessed thats what you meant but just wanted to be sure coz i hate racist remarks :)
I must say it was that kind of thing that started the Toxteth Riots in the Uk years ago. Targeting the "black" community all the time, making them submit to searches e.t.c, arresting them for no reason. If the airports did start targeting the "racial" communities rather then everyone, hell will break out. Its bad enough that issue about turbans and face scarfs causing issue in most countries. I say "when in Rome you do as Rome asks". You come into this country, do as we tell you else sod off. I have nothing against the other religions but i do hate when they argue over our rules. Terrorism is a major issue and yes its true that those with headscarves do often seem to be the ones causing the problem since you can't see their face so the terrorists take advantage and use the scarves also to pass themselves off as being religious (some actually are) and start their killings.
 

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CyberAkuma said:
American Airline security is kind of a giant clusterf*ck right now due to the fact that a terrorist bomber was able to get explosives on board of a U.S flight leaving from Holland to Detroid.

It has been widely regarded that the security measurements taken today at modern airport is not good enough to ensure security.

Some airport to counteract these type of flaws have purchased Body Scanners [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_scan] that are able to display a vague picture of the subject in question naked.


What is your opinion on this?
Some oppose these machines and claim that it violates personal integrity while some others claim that this is the only way of insuring that no explosives get on board of an airplane.

What are your thoughts and ideas regarding naked body scan? Would you have no problems letting someone seeing you naked through a scanner?
Do you think it imposes a threat to personal intergrity?

EDIT: I read that some airports that have Body Scanning allows for passengers that do not wish to be body scanned to be frisked instead.
So, I actually went through one of the scanners, at the San Francisco international airport on my way home to New York City. At the time (this was in July of 2009) I hadn't heard of them yet. Because I'd done rather well earlier in the week in Las Vegas, I was flying 1st class, and got to skip to the head of the security line. When I walked up I noticed that they put me next in line for what was NOT a metal detector. They had me take my shoes off, hold the few items in my pocket up over my head and stand in the chamber - the whole process took less than 10 seconds. I came out and eagerly looked around to see where the image was and couldn't find it, so I started to inquire with the guards there about the machine. I was told that NO ONE there at the security gate gets to see the images at all - the images are displayed only at 1 terminal in a central security room for the airport, and the one person who sees the images then radios in if the passenger is clear or not. I was disappointed because I wanted to see what it looked like, and the guard told me it's nothing special and showed me a sample photo - he told me "You just come out looking like Silver Surfer", and that was as close to the point as possible. Yes, it looks like a person without clothes one, but there are no markings or color on the person, so it almost doesn't even look human.
I'm all for these machines - they're quick, easy, and not nearly as intrusive as people are making them out to be. This is NOT the beginning of an Orwellian state, as some are suggesting here ... that started a long time ago.
 

Pyro Paul

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i'm against it.

as said by one of the US founding fathers: those that give up a little bit of freedom for a little bit of security deserive neither and will lose both.


this is just constant media fear mongering which blow a situation way out of proportion. the underpants bombers... yeah, he was no threat at all. the most damage he would of done was burn a hole through the carpet. but that isn't what you hear... you hear that he could of taken out the whole plane, killed every one, or turned the plane into a massive fire ball above detroit.


in all honosty, these knee jerk responces to things that just happened are nonsensical at best. you could easily create a bomb with Just your phone... or a deadly weapon out of the metal bars inside your average suit case. taking measures like prohibiting water bottles or introducing scanners which peer through clothes are an invasive security measures which serve no purpouse.
 

Giovanto

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Khell_Sennet said:
Years back when these things were first put into limited use I swore I would never go through one, and I hold myself to that promise still. I will not fly, it's that simple. With all the other crap they put you through, it's easy for people to forget that WE are the customer, and there are limits to how much harassment we will put up with when we pay good money for a service. I'll take a train, drive, or just fucking stay home, but you will not get me to give up that last shred of dignity.
I have to second this. Flying might save time (assuming everything goes as it should which it seldom does)but it is cheaper (if your vehicle isn't shit) to drive within a continent. Even if it's all the way from East Coast US to the West Coast, it's not worth the horse shit. You have things like the Pilot and Tahoe that are complete with DVD players and TVs equipped with composite for the kids, comfortable seating and plenty of room and by swapping drivers you could allow the other adult to get some rest. Plan your trip to grandmas house in advance and just drive. Fuck flying. A car doesn't hassle you and (as long as it isn't a shitty car) doesn't DELAY. It just GOES.

For business travel..well...they'll have to figure something out. As for me, I don't think I will ever fly again. Fuck the airline industry. A lot of them brought stuff on themselves (I'm looking at you, Orbitz) and I have no pity for them.
 

MrBibblz

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DemonicKitten said:
True, you have a valid point, i guessed thats what you meant but just wanted to be sure coz i hate racist remarks :)
I must say it was that kind of thing that started the Toxteth Riots in the Uk years ago. Targeting the "black" community all the time, making them submit to searches e.t.c, arresting them for no reason. If the airports did start targeting the "racial" communities rather then everyone, hell will break out. Its bad enough that issue about turbans and face scarfs causing issue in most countries. I say "when in Rome you do as Rome asks". You come into this country, do as we tell you else sod off. I have nothing against the other religions but i do hate when they argue over our rules. Terrorism is a major issue and yes its true that those with headscarves do often seem to be the ones causing the problem since you can't see their face so the terrorists take advantage and use the scarves also to pass themselves off as being religious (some actually are) and start their killings.
For many people it was a change they they put in to effect one day. Maybe if these countries had always had regulations about the turbans and face vales it wouldn't be so bad but to just one day tell these people can't practice a particular religious belief when youve been allowed to freely do it your entire life will definitely cause some trouble and aggravation.
 

AkJay

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DemonicKitten said:
Not exactly... The headscarves aren't meant to block their face, it's actually a symbol in Muslim religion. They find it disrespectful to show their heads to Allah (The Jewish also find it disrespectful, which is why they were yamacha's). That goes back to what I was saying earlier, they stop Muslims wearing turbans now because it might hide their face, but because the people behind 9/11 were brainwashed Islam fanatics.
 

Giovanto

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Pyro Paul said:
i'm against it.

as said by one of the US founding fathers: those that give up a little bit of freedom for a little bit of security deserive neither and will lose both.


this is just constant media fear mongering which blow a situation way out of proportion. the underpants bombers... yeah, he was no threat at all. the most damage he would of done was burn a hole through the carpet. but that isn't what you hear... you hear that he could of taken out the whole plane, killed every one, or turned the plane into a massive fire ball above detroit.


in all honosty, these knee jerk responces to things that just happened are nonsensical at best. you could easily create a bomb with Just your phone... or a deadly weapon out of the metal bars inside your average suit case. taking measures like prohibiting water bottles or introducing scanners which peer through clothes are an invasive security measures which serve no purpouse.
Here's an idea, when you see someone attempting to carry out a terrorist attack while your on a plane, kick his ass and don't let him. Even if he has a gun, guns aren't that useful in such close quarters and melee weapons like knives are relatively easy to disarm, especially it's one dude vs. an entire airplane of pissed off people.
 

CruelSpider

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I can understand why some people would be offended by it, and it is true that airports are getting a bit out of hand, but it really just is for everyone's safety.
I myself have nothing to hide as I am a generic white male. But I wouldn't mind working one of those things. It'd be pretty...*ahem*...interesting. Though I'd have a co-worker check all the men and fat people.
 

MrBibblz

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Pyro Paul said:
i'm against it.

as said by one of the US founding fathers: those that give up a little bit of freedom for a little bit of security deserive neither and will lose both.


this is just constant media fear mongering which blow a situation way out of proportion. the underpants bombers... yeah, he was no threat at all. the most damage he would of done was burn a hole through the carpet. but that isn't what you hear... you hear that he could of taken out the whole plane, killed every one, or turned the plane into a massive fire ball above detroit.


in all honosty, these knee jerk responces to things that just happened are nonsensical at best. you could easily create a bomb with Just your phone... or a deadly weapon out of the metal bars inside your average suit case. taking measures like prohibiting water bottles or introducing scanners which peer through clothes are an invasive security measures which serve no purpouse.
I agree, it was quite annoying the first time they told me I had to throw away the bottle of water I bought 20ft from the security check point. :/