Your Top 5 Western RPGs and Your Top 5 JRPGs (Single Player)
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Good question, its a turn based strategy RPG.. But then again, it is a strategy game...Wardog13 said:
idk...If it just had the ability to make a permanant save in combat, that'd go a long way to making it easier.VioletZer0 said:
WRPG:
KoTOR
Mass Effect
Morrowind
Dragon Age:Origins
Fable 1
Neverwinter Nights 1&2
JRPG:
None and would never try.
First of all since i've never tried a JRPG but it seems the developer make obiviously a good story(hence this support). But they overflow interface with flashing multicolored ''CRITICALS'' etc notifications which just turn me off. Oh and graphics: no way. Combat is also not my cup of tea.
KoTOR
Mass Effect
Morrowind
Dragon Age:Origins
Fable 1
Neverwinter Nights 1&2
JRPG:
None and would never try.
First of all since i've never tried a JRPG but it seems the developer make obiviously a good story(hence this support). But they overflow interface with flashing multicolored ''CRITICALS'' etc notifications which just turn me off. Oh and graphics: no way. Combat is also not my cup of tea.
All righty, let me give this a shot:
WRPGs:
Diablo series - A lot of good isometric RPGs out there, but this still rules them all.
Fallout series - Starts off on isometric, and they're great, but the third part of the series is probably the best thing Bethesda ever managed to make.
KOTOR series - When I'd lost all faith in LucasArts, I was still able to enjoy this, since you can always rely on BioWare for a solid, if not great, RPG.
The first Deus Ex - None of the following property.
Quest for Glory Series - Old? You bet your ass. Prepare for some typing. But still one of the best, silliest RPG series out there.
JRPGs:
I'm on board with a lot of the JRPG bashing, but they are with redeeming games, and I can allow myself to get engrossed in them all the same.
Dark Cloud 2 - The first had a bunch of problems, and DC2 fixed them all. Action-based combat, great weapon system, neither protagonist is androgynous, a lot of minigames that actually assist with the game without being so mind-numbing as to detract from it.
Disgaea - Do not play this. I liked it, it's on my list, but I can't imagine anyone really caring about this series unless they are completely enamoured of the concept of level grinding.
Final Fantasy VI and VII - Admittedly, these may be on my list because I didn't know any better when I played them and now they live inside a cocoon of nostalgia. That being said, this was Squaresoft when I liked them: bizarre, anachronistic worlds with interesting design aesthetics and no half-assed American voice acting.
Demon's Souls - Yeah, OK, the game is relentlessly difficult, and this was a pretty recent release, but it's merciless head-stomping good fun with a beautiful world that you don't get enough time to enjoy, what with the constant dying and all.
Mario RPGs - Be they Paper Mario, Mario RPG, or the Mario and Luigi series, the Mario RPGs have always been a bright spot in the vast wasteland of contrived, poorly-executed JRPGs;
WRPGs:
Diablo series - A lot of good isometric RPGs out there, but this still rules them all.
Fallout series - Starts off on isometric, and they're great, but the third part of the series is probably the best thing Bethesda ever managed to make.
KOTOR series - When I'd lost all faith in LucasArts, I was still able to enjoy this, since you can always rely on BioWare for a solid, if not great, RPG.
The first Deus Ex - None of the following property.
Quest for Glory Series - Old? You bet your ass. Prepare for some typing. But still one of the best, silliest RPG series out there.
JRPGs:
I'm on board with a lot of the JRPG bashing, but they are with redeeming games, and I can allow myself to get engrossed in them all the same.
Dark Cloud 2 - The first had a bunch of problems, and DC2 fixed them all. Action-based combat, great weapon system, neither protagonist is androgynous, a lot of minigames that actually assist with the game without being so mind-numbing as to detract from it.
Disgaea - Do not play this. I liked it, it's on my list, but I can't imagine anyone really caring about this series unless they are completely enamoured of the concept of level grinding.
Final Fantasy VI and VII - Admittedly, these may be on my list because I didn't know any better when I played them and now they live inside a cocoon of nostalgia. That being said, this was Squaresoft when I liked them: bizarre, anachronistic worlds with interesting design aesthetics and no half-assed American voice acting.
Demon's Souls - Yeah, OK, the game is relentlessly difficult, and this was a pretty recent release, but it's merciless head-stomping good fun with a beautiful world that you don't get enough time to enjoy, what with the constant dying and all.
Mario RPGs - Be they Paper Mario, Mario RPG, or the Mario and Luigi series, the Mario RPGs have always been a bright spot in the vast wasteland of contrived, poorly-executed JRPGs;
Western:
Neverwinter Nights 2 and Mask Of The Betrayer. Got Storm Of Zehir but haven't played it, began to, has a very good look, but my interest was grabbed by other games.
KOTOR2, feels shorter than 1, though 1 wasn't so long when I replayed. KOTOR1's good, if it were not because it's a rip off of NWN1, everything is shaked and reordered: SPOILER! start in quarantined place, you find a LG ***** who goes corrupt but I'm sure it just was too tired to pass as goodie, then you have the chance to convert (not back) to goodness... if killing her wasn't much more rewarding, old forgotten race that yadda-yadda (I'm scared to find that element in Mass Effect that I'm just starting to play, crime with all are culprits (though in KOTOR1 is an absurd, making the murderer the wrong one and basing in "he didn't tell me he's cheating his wife with mine and that he's who recorded The Seventh Seal over my original Star Wars tapes"), etc etc
I guess despite that I can add KOTOR1, being a jedi is nice, and is nicer when you finish Taris without having leveled a single time after the initial forced level up to second level (it also makes Bastila a bit less despicable, as that means you get to run around while she does the killing, so yes, this time she's being right about herself enacting the rescue).
NWN1 put me to sleep at the middle of the first chapter, same with HOTU. But SOU may deserve being here as it didn't put me to sleep and I enjoyed it to the end, even though my paladin came up being unbeatable, I don't think she received a hit since level 5.
Japanese:
Chrono Trigger, kind of fun.
Breath of Fire, the one with Nina and Katt.
The second part of the above.
Dragon Knight III aka Knights of Xentar (18+), a fun game.
I forgot the title of one for dreamcast I liked, featured a phoenix, a white haired princess.
Now, I've played little RPGs, so some of the above I just liked, but didn't get to really get drooling over them. The best and who really are that good are NWN2 OC and MOTB. We'll see if Mass Effect joins up there.
Neverwinter Nights 2 and Mask Of The Betrayer. Got Storm Of Zehir but haven't played it, began to, has a very good look, but my interest was grabbed by other games.
KOTOR2, feels shorter than 1, though 1 wasn't so long when I replayed. KOTOR1's good, if it were not because it's a rip off of NWN1, everything is shaked and reordered: SPOILER! start in quarantined place, you find a LG ***** who goes corrupt but I'm sure it just was too tired to pass as goodie, then you have the chance to convert (not back) to goodness... if killing her wasn't much more rewarding, old forgotten race that yadda-yadda (I'm scared to find that element in Mass Effect that I'm just starting to play, crime with all are culprits (though in KOTOR1 is an absurd, making the murderer the wrong one and basing in "he didn't tell me he's cheating his wife with mine and that he's who recorded The Seventh Seal over my original Star Wars tapes"), etc etc
I guess despite that I can add KOTOR1, being a jedi is nice, and is nicer when you finish Taris without having leveled a single time after the initial forced level up to second level (it also makes Bastila a bit less despicable, as that means you get to run around while she does the killing, so yes, this time she's being right about herself enacting the rescue).
NWN1 put me to sleep at the middle of the first chapter, same with HOTU. But SOU may deserve being here as it didn't put me to sleep and I enjoyed it to the end, even though my paladin came up being unbeatable, I don't think she received a hit since level 5.
Japanese:
Chrono Trigger, kind of fun.
Breath of Fire, the one with Nina and Katt.
The second part of the above.
Dragon Knight III aka Knights of Xentar (18+), a fun game.
I forgot the title of one for dreamcast I liked, featured a phoenix, a white haired princess.
Now, I've played little RPGs, so some of the above I just liked, but didn't get to really get drooling over them. The best and who really are that good are NWN2 OC and MOTB. We'll see if Mass Effect joins up there.
I Don't really play JRPG's, So here are my top five WRPG's
Oblivion (and Morrowind to a lesser extent)
Fallout (series, It's too hard picking just one)
Dragon Age Origins
Planescape:Torment
The Baldur's Gate series (although the second one was better, you really need to play them back to back to get the full experience).
Honorable mentions goes to the KOTOR series, Neverwinter Nights, Diablo I&II and the Icewind Dale series ( I probably forgot some, but oh well).
Oblivion (and Morrowind to a lesser extent)
Fallout (series, It's too hard picking just one)
Dragon Age Origins
Planescape:Torment
The Baldur's Gate series (although the second one was better, you really need to play them back to back to get the full experience).
Honorable mentions goes to the KOTOR series, Neverwinter Nights, Diablo I&II and the Icewind Dale series ( I probably forgot some, but oh well).
Western: Kotor 2, Mass Effect, Kotor 1, Dragon Age: Origins, Fable 2 (Edit: Would a MMORPG count in either, or is it a seperate group on its own?)
JRPG's: The World Ends with You, Chrono Trigger, Fire Emblem 7 if it counts as a JRPG, then I can't think of any other enjoyable JRPG's I've played
JRPG's: The World Ends with You, Chrono Trigger, Fire Emblem 7 if it counts as a JRPG, then I can't think of any other enjoyable JRPG's I've played
Wrpg:
Guild wars
Fable 1
Oblivion
There are plenty others I enjoy but don't think are good enough to be on any list: mass effect etc
JRPG
I'm afraid I don't like the manga art style so I stear clear of any games RPG or not that feature it. It isn't even the combat or plots that turn me off, I really enjoy that turn based LOTR game third age I think it was called.
Guild wars
Fable 1
Oblivion
There are plenty others I enjoy but don't think are good enough to be on any list: mass effect etc
JRPG
I'm afraid I don't like the manga art style so I stear clear of any games RPG or not that feature it. It isn't even the combat or plots that turn me off, I really enjoy that turn based LOTR game third age I think it was called.
Almost no one put Gothic on their list, that's actually very sad.
You guys never played the first two parts I assume.
You guys never played the first two parts I assume.
Western-
Bioshock (They say its an RPG, even though it really isent)
Fallout 3
KOTOR 1
Mass Effect
KORTO 2
Japanese-
Final Fantasy 8
Persona 4
Persona 3
Star Ocean: Tell the end of Time
Final Fantasy 10
i love rpgs
Bioshock (They say its an RPG, even though it really isent)
Fallout 3
KOTOR 1
Mass Effect
KORTO 2
Japanese-
Final Fantasy 8
Persona 4
Persona 3
Star Ocean: Tell the end of Time
Final Fantasy 10
i love rpgs
Western:
5:dragon age origens
4:fallout 2
3:morrowind
2
blivion
1:fallout 3
JRPG:
5:secret of mana
4:chrono trigger
3:twewy
2:twewy
1:twewy
5:dragon age origens
4:fallout 2
3:morrowind
2
blivion1:fallout 3
JRPG:
5:secret of mana
4:chrono trigger
3:twewy
2:twewy
1:twewy
I like JRPG's! There, I said it, I'm not taking it back, and I don't care what you think!
WRPG's
KOTOR
KOTOR II
Dragon Age Origins
Mass Effect
Jade Empire
JRPG's
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Star Ocean
Star Ocean The Last Hope
Kingdom Hearts
Shin Megami Tensai - Lucifer's Call
Any Final Fantasy (esp XII and I don't care who knows that either)
Dragon Quest 8
Rogue Galaxy
Digital Devil Saga (shall I go on.......)?
I know that is more than 5 but I am making a point that it really isn't hard to come up with at least 5 good/great JRPG's!
WRPG's
KOTOR
KOTOR II
Dragon Age Origins
Mass Effect
Jade Empire
JRPG's
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Star Ocean
Star Ocean The Last Hope
Kingdom Hearts
Shin Megami Tensai - Lucifer's Call
Any Final Fantasy (esp XII and I don't care who knows that either)
Dragon Quest 8
Rogue Galaxy
Digital Devil Saga (shall I go on.......)?
I know that is more than 5 but I am making a point that it really isn't hard to come up with at least 5 good/great JRPG's!
Western:
Mass Effect
Dragon Age: Origins
Fallout 3
KOTOR II (shut up)
Jade Empire
Japanese:
I don't know. I've never really played any of them, and I haven't really ever had any interest in playing them.
Mass Effect
Dragon Age: Origins
Fallout 3
KOTOR II (shut up)
Jade Empire
Japanese:
I don't know. I've never really played any of them, and I haven't really ever had any interest in playing them.
Sorry, I've been laughing at this for a couple minutes. You, who lists Morrowind and Oblivion as the best, are accusing FF of being generic?imahobbit4062 said:
I love it when WRPG elitists do this, considering you pet-genre is 90% just another rip-off of the LotR/DnD setting in the long, long line of them. And KoTOR is not so much generic as unoriginal. Say what you say about FF, but at least they make their own settings instead of borrowing one from a succesful sci-fi/fantasy movie.
A great game but doesn't work in the favour of your argument here at all.
The plot of KoTOR is likewise: "Save the galaxy from the Dark Lord(TM)".
While JRPG stories are fairly generic, they have some good plot twists and great voice actors for major characters (see Kingdom Hearts and FInal Fantasy XII).
