You're never too old... to be an abortion...

[ace_of_something]

This has been big news locally, the shortsightedness of our lawmakers. What?s fascinating is on TV they keep saying how all the senators thought ?The spirit of this law is newborns, but we shouldn?t specify that to the letter, no one would be that horrible.?

We?ve even had people from other states drive great distances to drop their kids off.
This law is basically a preamble to outlaw abortion.
Short little article here:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-09-25-Left-kids_N.htm

You can find more, I?m not your damn search engine.

 

[reaper_2k9]

Why would you raise a child for 15 years and then decide oh i dont want you anymore? These parents should have thought about it long before they started doing the nasty and popping out babies.

 

[Elurindel]

Maybe there should be some sort of screening process to decide whether or not people should have children. Besides the usual biological method, of course...

 

[nimrandir]

Let me preface this with the statement that I have done no further research beyond reading the article linked above. Perhaps I am missing some important element of the law in question.

How could people not have seen this coming? It is all too easy to envision a scenario where a less-than-scrupulous parent could use this as a psychological weapon. When I last checked, lawmakers are not supposed to bank on people's following the 'spirit' of a piece of legislation. These folks would do well to remember the golden rule of gaming: "if it isn't there, it isn't there."

On another note, did anyone else notice that the article and the caption beside it give the senator different first names?

 

[Beowulf DW]

This is FUBAR, in every sense of the acronym.

 

[nimrandir]

Maybe there should be some sort of screening process to decide whether or not people should have children. Besides the usual biological method, of course...

We did that once [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#Eugenics_in_the_United_States_.281890s.E2.80.931978.29], and the results were less than glorious.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

And this is why outlawing abortion is a bad idea, this is also why everyone should be sterilized at birth.

Here are my thoughts on the matter...
ATTENTION HUMANITY! BY BEING TOO FUCKING STUPID AND OVERPOPULATING THE PLANET YOU HAVE LOST YOUR RIGHT TO FREELY REPRODUCE! APPLICATIONS FOR PARENTING WILL BE DISTRIBUTED!

 

[Anarchemitis]

I detest the murder of humans, regardless of incarnations it takes. Which is why I play Half-Life 2; the Combine are not humans any more.

 

[reaper_2k9]

This article sounds like something you would read
Bingo. People get so caught up in sex because it feels good, then are totally surprised when they conceive a child - the primary purpose of sexual intercourse. Why do it if you're not prepared for the consequences?

People really shouldnt be surprised when they have unprotected sex and then whoops i'm pregnant unless they honestley dont know where babies come from

 

[James Raynor]

This has been big news locally, the shortsightedness of our lawmakers. What?s fascinating is on TV they keep saying how all the senators thought ?The spirit of this law is newborns, but we shouldn?t specify that to the letter, no one would be that horrible.?

We?ve even had people from other states drive great distances to drop their kids off.
This law is basically a preamble to outlaw abortion.
Short little article here:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-09-25-Left-kids_N.htm

You can find more, I?m not your damn search engine.

Sounds like abandonment instead of abortion.

 

[Amnestic]

Which is why I play Half-Life 2; the Combine are not humans any more.

While I'm sure your comment was (partially) in jest, I'd like to inquire about your opinions on humans who are in a permanent vegetative state or who lack higher brain functions. I suppose what I'm really asking is "How do you define human?"

I'm not really sure what to think of this to be honest. On the one hand it's detestable thing that a parent can just abandon their child on a hospital doorstep and not face prosecution. On the other hand, perhaps they're doing it for a good reason. I mean, I doubt all of them are. In cases like these [http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/17/toddler_found_in_house_of_filth.html](Old article, one I read a while back) I'd much rather the parent abandon their child as it'll get a better life out of foster care.

That said, I really think we should start making parents take compulsory courses/tests if they want to have kids. As the politicians are always saying "Children are our future!".

*tangent* Oh, and perhaps we could teach sex education which doesn't consist entirely of Abistinence. Sometimes I wonder if the people setting curriculums forget the teenagers want to have sex. A lot. Somehow I've always been under the impression telling them not to won't really do much. */tangent*

 

[nimrandir]

Sounds like abandonment instead of abortion.

I concur that the title is a tad misleading.

What I find fascinating is that most people would call a safe-haven surrender an act of abandonment. I can see how the (properly structured) law can avoid situations of total abandonment, such as ditching a stroller in a store, but many people I know would decry consigning a child to the foster care system.

My wife and I are in the process of adopting domestically, and I was surprised to learn about the resources available to birthmothers if they know where to look. To be honest, I would prefer that a person considering a safe-haven surrender make an adoption plan.

 

[NewClassic_v1legacy]

I once wrote a satirical article [http://fictaddict.blogspot.com/2007/05/texas-considering-anonymous-drop-off.html] about this. How in the hell did something so satirical ever come to pass?

Dear God, humans... If you keep this up, I'll call RAKtheUndead up, and we'll take the world over by sundown.

 

[James Raynor]

I once wrote a satirical article [http://fictaddict.blogspot.com/2007/05/texas-considering-anonymous-drop-off.html] about this. How in the hell did something so satirical ever come to pass?

Dear God, humans... If you keep this up, I'll call RAKtheUndead up, and we'll take the world over by sundown.

You two would probably do a better job then the current leaders anyway. =/

 

[Baby Tea]

I am so disgusted by the 'parents' who would do this. Imagine your parents just saying 'screw it!' and leaving you in a hospital. Where is the conscience? The love?

What's worse is you have to wonder how terrible their home-life must have been with parents so willing to abandon them. And when I go home tonight I'm going to turn on the news and have the media ***** about the state of the youth and how video games and movies and music are corrupting them.

What a wonderful world we live in.

 

[TheGreatGonzo26]

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say. As awful and traumatic it must be for those kids to be left at a hospital by their "parent", hopefully now they'll go into a good home where someone will be there to show them the kind of love and support they need to succeed in life.

Personally, this is only encouraging me to become a foster parent.

 

[nimrandir]

I am so disgusted by the 'parents' who would do this. Imagine your parents just saying 'screw it!' and leaving you in a hospital. Where is the conscience? The love?

What's worse is you have to wonder how terrible their home-life must have been with parents so willing to abandon them. And when I go home tonight I'm going to turn on the news and have the media ***** about the state of the youth and how video games and movies and music are corrupting them.

What a wonderful world we live in.

You assume much, and assumption is a dangerous beast.

If the parents in such a situation surrender a child in order to have more time to go to the movies, most would call their action selfish. If they have lost their jobs and are days from losing their home, is the same action selfish? Does a loving parent consign his or her child to homelessness? When the choice is to buy food for your children or to buy the medicine which keeps you alive to be with your children, what does conscience demand?

As I said above, I think adoption is a better alternative than an outright surrender, yet demanding a biological parent keep a child in a wretched situation over matters of conscience looks slightly draconian from my seat.

 

[Baby Tea]

I am so disgusted by the 'parents' who would do this. Imagine your parents just saying 'screw it!' and leaving you in a hospital. Where is the conscience? The love?

What's worse is you have to wonder how terrible their home-life must have been with parents so willing to abandon them. And when I go home tonight I'm going to turn on the news and have the media ***** about the state of the youth and how video games and movies and music are corrupting them.

What a wonderful world we live in.

You assume much, and assumption is a dangerous beast.

If the parents in such a situation surrender a child in order to have more time to go to the movies, most would call their action selfish. If they have lost their jobs and are days from losing their home, is the same action selfish? Does a loving parent consign his or her child to homelessness? When the choice is to buy food for your children or to buy the medicine which keeps you alive to be with your children, what does conscience demand?

As I said above, I think adoption is a better alternative than an outright surrender, yet demanding a biological parent keep a child in a wretched situation over matters of conscience looks slightly draconian from my seat.

I stand corrected, point well made. Although my family has always been on the 'lower rung' of the income ladder (Nothing like living off of peanut butter and bread), and I would have NEVER wanted to leave my family if the option arose.

I do, however, see your point and I did assume much. One can sometimes only see the worst in people when that is all one is given glimpses of. Let's hope that these parents did this out of such a need rather then out of selfish greed (Almost rhymed).