You're never too old... to be an abortion...

[Flammarion]

Maybe there should be some sort of screening process to decide whether or not people should have children. Besides the usual biological method, of course...

Yes then we could craft the "Master Race", and prevent unwanted peoples from reproducing, muahahahahaha! (sarcasm)

No Eugenics didn't work, here (USA) or in Germany.

What a horiible thought.

Now I see this quoted often actually, and I think it's about time I expressed my opinion on the matter.

Precisely what is wrong with creating an idealised human race? Besides the fact that some people may point to the aryan fiasco and say "That's all Eugenics is" when really it could be so much more and better.

We're not talking about murdering kids here. We're talking about preventing people who can't prove they could be capable parents of having kids. What exactly is so horrible about trying to ensure that every child born will have a 'good' childhood and grow up to be a well-adjusted, productive adult?

Surely what you're suggesting by preventing such a thing is actually causing more child abuse and neglect from parents who can't satisfy the needs of their child. We've bloody well got enough people on this planet already, stopping a few people from having kids isn't exactly a bad thing resource wise either. Isn't that what China is doing with that 1-child per family scheme they've got running?

Huh, that's pretty much my opinion in a nutshell. We have way too many parents who mistreat their children these days. The world is overpopulated, as it is, the last thing we need is unfit parents having families of seven to drain our dwindling resources.

If we determined who would be good parents beforehand, child abuse wouldn?t be nearly as prevalent as it is today.

Throwing the old "THAT'S WHAT HITLER DID" is just a cop-out way to stop any discussion of Eugenics, which if done properly would have a great effect on our society. We don't need to slaughter hundreds of people to do it, we just need to stop neglectful idiots from having children.

 

[jim_doki]

i got both a dildo and a banana in high school

incidentally, what's this sex ed you all keep talking about?

on a more serious note, you know what? I see this as the ultimate cop out

welcome to the world of Gen X

 

[Samurai Goomba]

I was home schooled, so my Sex Ed obviously consisted of... Nothing. I mean, has anyone here EVER gotten good information about sex from their parents? EVER? Just curious. Oh, well, I took a lot of "extracurricular classes" in the subject.

In a sense, the internet is the best Sex Ed tool in the world.

 

[Avatar Roku]

This is FUBAR, in every sense of the acronym.

I've wondered this for a while, what does FUBAR mean.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

This is FUBAR, in every sense of the acronym.

I've wondered this for a while, what does FUBAR mean.

Fucked
Up
Beyond
All
Repair

or at least that's how I've heard it.

 

[Amnestic]

This is FUBAR, in every sense of the acronym.

I've wondered this for a while, what does FUBAR mean.

Fucked
Up
Beyond
All
Repair

or at least that's how I've heard it.

I swap "Repair" for "Recognition" but both work.

 

[nimrandir]

Now I see this quoted often actually, and I think it's about time I expressed my opinion on the matter.

Precisely what is wrong with creating an idealised human race? Besides the fact that some people may point to the aryan fiasco and say "That's all Eugenics is" when really it could be so much more and better.

We're not talking about murdering kids here. We're talking about preventing people who can't prove they could be capable parents of having kids. What exactly is so horrible about trying to ensure that every child born will have a 'good' childhood and grow up to be a well-adjusted, productive adult?

Surely what you're suggesting by preventing such a thing is actually causing more child abuse and neglect from parents who can't satisfy the needs of their child. We've bloody well got enough people on this planet already, stopping a few people from having kids isn't exactly a bad thing resource wise either. Isn't that what China is doing with that 1-child per family scheme they've got running?

Eugenics sounds great in a utopia, but the issue is the definition of the word 'good,' which is inherently subjective. I have a hunch that arriving at a consensus on how to determine who is 'fit' to be a parent would be a logistical nightmare. Note what happened to the Nebraska safe-haven law [also note the desperate attempt to somehow remain connected to the original topic], where the need for political support resulted in absurdity. The sheer number of variables required to determine a 'good' childhood boggles my mind. How important are the grandparents? What sort of damage might be done by other relatives? How much does potential family stability outweigh lesser resources?

Can any battery of tests really tell you how good a parent someone will be? Even if it can, what are the chances that a child from a 'good' home will still be problematic in society?

 

[sheic99]

I didn't actually read this article, but I saw a mom on the news who did this. She was a single parent and said she left her son there because he got expelled from school and was having worse and worse problems. So, she left his at the hospital to prevent him from getting more fucked up and landing in jail or dead.

 

[ace_of_something]

I would like to take this moment to update a few things:

Nebraska -does in fact- require public schools to teach the use of contraception.

There was a guy who dropped of 9 kids the oldest being 17 because his wife died and he was disabled.

Many of the older kids are being dropped off because they are delinquents, who actually have middle class home lives. They live in perfectly fine and loving homes. The parents just don't know what to do with the little shit.

An 'emergency' state senate meeting was called to fix this
http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/865577.html


I would've updated sooner but I've been busy.

 

[MrPete]

Wow. Er, I'm shocked by how little sex ed you guys apparently got over there.

We get it from about 11 here in Britain.

By the way, in America, if a couple have sex and the guy is 16 and the girl is 15, does the guy get prosecuted? Because me and my girlfriend have been since then... Of course, we've always used contraception, and if it fails, at least there's the morning after pill...

 

[ace_of_something]

By the way, in America, if a couple have sex and the guy is 16 and the girl is 15, does the guy get prosecuted? Because me and my girlfriend have been since then... Of course, we've always used contraception, and if it fails, at least there's the morning after pill...

There is no blanket policy in the united states

Every state in the union is allowed to make it's own laws regarding age of consent.

GENERALLY Unless one of the above parties is above 18 and the other below it: it's pretty much fair game. Keep in mind this is a very broad generalization.

 

[Beowulf DW]

By the way, in America, if a couple have sex and the guy is 16 and the girl is 15, does the guy get prosecuted?

In Pennsylvania, there can be no more than 3 years difference in the ages of the couple if one or both members of the couple are under 18, regardless of gender. So, if one was 13 and another was 17, that would actually count as statutory rape. But 15 and 16 would be just fine.

At least I think that's how it works. And even if I'm right, that's just for Pennsylvania, I can't say anything for the other states.

 

[Simalacrum]

And this is why outlawing abortion is a bad idea, this is also why everyone should be sterilized at birth.

Here are my thoughts on the matter...
ATTENTION HUMANITY! BY BEING TOO FUCKING STUPID AND OVERPOPULATING THE PLANET YOU HAVE LOST YOUR RIGHT TO FREELY REPRODUCE! APPLICATIONS FOR PARENTING WILL BE DISTRIBUTED!

well actualy humanity hasn't really overpopulated the planet... its more about how people are concentrated in single spots, and the distribution of resources... Africa for example could house many more people if it had the resources and the technology to sustain a larger population.
so land wise we're still fine, we just need to spread out our technology and resources.

back to the matter at hand, i think this law is a disastorous idea... and even if they remove it, children have already been abandoned... would a child want to return to their parents once they know that their not wanted?

 

[leafsnail]

Maybe it's supposed to encourage people to abandon new borns, rather than abort them, and as long as there's an adoption process, it will work fine. However, when it comes to older kids...

@Amnestic: Hmm, they used a blue one in our class to. We tried to be mature, but when the demonstrater accidentally knocked it on the floor...

 

[Rankao]

Maybe there should be some sort of screening process to decide whether or not people should have children. Besides the usual biological method, of course...

We did that once [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#Eugenics_in_the_United_States_.281890s.E2.80.931978.29], and the results were less than glorious.

Holy crap they can still sterilize people! That is awesome!

 

[Zeke109]

"They were tired of their parenting role," says Todd Landry of Nebraska's Department of Health and Human Services. He says child behavioral problems, not family financial woes, were a factor in the earlier cases. He says little is known about the three new cases, which are under investigation.

Well, maybe the kids should behave.

No, no.. I'm not that cold...This is just fuckin' WRONG.

 

[PatientGrasshopper]

Ever notice how the stupid people reproduce at a higher rate than smart people? Like the movie Idiocracy. I think we need to educate people.