You've Got To Be Kidding Me (Finding Nemo 2 Seriously)

[Robot Number V]

OK....Let me look at this as empirically as I can....Cars 2 was bad, a pretty obvious cash grab. Brave was better, and not really BAD, but not nearly as good as Pixar's usual stuff. Monsters University seems...Unneeded, but nobody's actually seen it yet, so we don't know. Now we have Finding Dory.

Well....OK. Actually, I watched this movie again recently, and Dory DOES say something about not having any friends or family when she finds Marlowe (that was his name, right?) and it's kind of implied that might have just forgotten them. Honestly, I think there might actually be a story there. That being said, though, Finding Nemo...well...Really doesn't NEED a sequel. She already HAS friends and family by the end of the movie, I really don't see how they can take her character any further, and certainly not in a leading role.

*sigh* I guess we'll see. I'll reserve judgement until I actually know more about it, as well as after I've seen Monsters University.

Oh, and by the way,

Guys guys guys lets not forget about the awesome merch

So, first we had monsters inc 2: Monsters university. I mean, really? Fucking really? I love monsters inc as much as the next guy, but...MONSTERS FUCKING UNIVERSITY?

And now this. THIS PILE OF DOG SHIT.

Oh, and let's not forget "planes". In the universe of cars. The film that sucked first time round, and even more the next time. AND NOW THEY'RE DOING IT AGAIN, WITH FUCKING PLANES.

I give up.

Nope. That's Disney. Pixar's got nothing to do with it.

 

[Xanadu84]

...Ill watch it.

Seriously, it's Pixar. The "Pixar movie that sucks" example is often Brave, which, it needs to be said, was a very good movie. It wasn't Pixar's best and it was a bit rough, but it was still a very enjoyable movie. Few studios risk more on unique IPs, and Toy Story sequels worked. Cars...come on, they need SOME cash cow to sell merch. Thats only fair, and its not even like Cars is abysmal. It's probably better than your average kid flick. So now they make a sequel to an excellent movie, focusing on a different character? And a GREAT character? Maybe it won't stack up to the first, but its still probably going to be great.

 

[MissP]

Ugh. Although Finding Nemo is one of my favorite Pixar movies, this whole idea for a sequel sounds completely forced. Dory was a lot of fun as a character, but the whole "take the comic relief character and make them the star of their own movie" thing always sounds better on paper. It sure didn't work in Cars 2 (oh the pain...).

I wasn't crazy about Brave either, but I'd still rather see more original ideas like that from Pixar than this troubling string of unnecessary sequels. The Toy Story trilogy was great all the way through though, so maybe there's hope.

 

[dfphetteplace]

I don't see a problem with this. I certainly don't want an Incredibles sequel. Don't we have other things to ***** about? Or do you just have such a great life that this is the worse thing that could happen?

 

[Abomination]

I will reserve my judgement until I actually see a result. Pixar are more than capable of making some amazing films and surprising us.

Dreamworks knocked it out of the park with Guardians and most people thought Dreamworks were dead in the water.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Why does nobody ever acknowledge that there already is a sequel to The Incredibles in the form of a PS2 game? I've never played it, so I can't speak to the quality, but as I understand it's about as direct as sequels get, picking up where the last scene of the movie left off, and showing how the heroes deal with that new villain from the last scene of the movie, The Underminer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredibles:_Rise_of_the_Underminer

 

[Risingblade]

The real question here is will squishy be in it?

 

[lacktheknack]

Finding Dory? What?

That's not what it's going to be called, there's no way Pixar could allow themselves to do something that uninspired. Finding Dory sounds like a joke, maybe the name of a bonus 5 minute short released on the Finding Nemo DVD. Anything called Finding 'X' is clearly just leaching off the original movie and not trying to stand alone as it's own story.

And besides it's title, Finding Dory sounds like it'd be terrible. Remember how funny Dory was as a side character who broke the tension and added some comic relief to the otherwise bleak story? Now imagine if the entire movie was about her. Little kids might enjoy it but I doubt anyone else would.

Actually, my eleven-year-old self found Dory to be by far the most unsettling character. She was funny, yes... in much the same way that my Grandma did funny things before her Alzheimer's REALLY took hold and everything went to hell. I'd go so far as to say that her presence made the whole thing even bleaker. (Of course, I'm biased because I had a grandparent who resembled Dory at one point die in the most horrific way imaginable, and I watched Finding Nemo in the middle of it all... but still.)

I, for one, can totally see the sequel having potential, if they can keep the funny bits balanced with the feeling of being permanently lost that she gives out.

 

[soren7550]

Yeaaaaah... this sounds dumb. I mean, Finding Nemo wrapped up nicely with closure. And you're making a sequel for the comic relief character that has short term memory loss? It didn't work when you made Cars 2 focus on the comic relief, and it didn't work for the Ice Age sequels either.

From what I've heard, Brave wasn't all that good, and while Toy Story 3 was a good movie, I'm not so sure it it was a very enjoyable film. The same could be said for Up. What was before that? WALL-E? Kinda the same as the previous two. Ratatouille? Eh, I only saw it once on tv, and it didn't come off as a very good Pixar film overall. Cars? Blech. The Incredibles? ONE OF THE BEST FILMS OF ALL TIME!!

I haven't really enjoyed a Pixar film since 2004? I must a very bitter, sad soul.

What were we talking about again? Finding Dory?! Man that sounds dumb.

 

[njrk97]

Why does nobody ever acknowledge that there already is a sequel to The Incredibles in the form of a PS2 game? I've never played it, so I can't speak to the quality, but as I understand it's about as direct as sequels get, picking up where the last scene of the movie left off, and showing how the heroes deal with that new villain from the last scene of the movie, The Underminer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredibles:_Rise_of_the_Underminer

From what i have played from it its just endless levels of underground and they blow of pretty much all the other characters to 'handle the civilians' while mr incredible and frozone go in and fight. Not really a proper sequel guys, but remember that i have only played the life first 4 level so i may be wrong.

 

[Ldude893]

One of these days, I look forward to Pixar rising out of the ashes of mediocracy and into a Robert Downey Jr.-esque rebirth.

Still, I'm just going to wait and see how this turns out. I can't see what sequel can come out of Finding Nemo, and I really wished they'd make a sequel out of The Incredibles instead, but I suppose I can be positively surprised.

Though this begs the question: WHO IN DISNEY/PIXAR THOUGHT OF HAVING PIXAR TO PRODUCE NON-TOY STORY SEQUELS IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?. Seriously, it's as if Michael Eisner made a pact with the devil to transfer his soul with that of a current Disney executive.

 

[V da Mighty Taco]

It could be a good movie.

But that doesn't matter apparently. I mean, the internet sure was spot on with the DMC and Tomb Raider reboots.

Carry on, then.

So is your net of counterarguments moving on from just gaming now? Seriously, is it so bad that I am skeptical about a film? It could be good, but I have no idea how they could pull it off. If I remain cautious, then I don't stand to lose anything. If I look forward to it and it sucks, I feel let down. If I stay cautious and it sucks, nothing is lost, but if it is good, I can be pleasantly surprised.

There is a difference between hating on something and staying distant because you have concerns.

Not trying to derail this into a pony thread, but your post is kinda like how I'm approaching Alicorn Twilight in MLP - it's far from guaranteed it'll flop and could actually turn out surprisingly good, but nevertheless I remain skeptical about it due to my concerns about where the show has been heading for quite a while now. A very wait-and-see approach, as it were.

I'll now commence shutting up about ze poniez.

We need a fucking Incredibles sequel. If any Pixar movie warrants one, it's that.

This as well. Incredibles left on a bit of a cliffhanger and the setting has tons of sequel potential. If any Pixar movie should have a sequel, it's that one.

 

[Mark D. Stroyer]

So, obviously Pixar started with some amazing ideas. It just took them until...Toy Story 3 to actually get them all made.

Pixar is dead! Long live Pixar!

 

[Olas]

Finding Dory? What?

That's not what it's going to be called, there's no way Pixar could allow themselves to do something that uninspired. Finding Dory sounds like a joke, maybe the name of a bonus 5 minute short released on the Finding Nemo DVD. Anything called Finding 'X' is clearly just leaching off the original movie and not trying to stand alone as it's own story.

And besides it's title, Finding Dory sounds like it'd be terrible. Remember how funny Dory was as a side character who broke the tension and added some comic relief to the otherwise bleak story? Now imagine if the entire movie was about her. Little kids might enjoy it but I doubt anyone else would.

Actually, my eleven-year-old self found Dory to be by far the most unsettling character. She was funny, yes... in much the same way that my Grandma did funny things before her Alzheimer's REALLY took hold and everything went to hell. I'd go so far as to say that her presence made the whole thing even bleaker. (Of course, I'm biased because I had a grandparent who resembled Dory at one point die in the most horrific way imaginable, and I watched Finding Nemo in the middle of it all... but still.)

I, for one, can totally see the sequel having potential, if they can keep the funny bits balanced with the feeling of being permanently lost that she gives out.

But isn't a character like Dory almost physically incapable of having a character arc? Her STML means she's incapable of developing or growing in any meaningful way and makes it implausible that she cold pursue any sort of objective that takes more than a few minutes to accomplish. She'd have to like write messages on her... OH MY GOD!

Spoiler: Finding Nemo 2: Memento Dory

Somebody get Nolan on the phone.

 

[Mylinkay Asdara]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/andrew-stanton-pixar-finding-nemo-sequel-350267

No, this is not an April Fools joke. They are really making a sequel to Finding Nemo, called Finding Dory. Dory goes on a trip to find her family.

I... just... what? Of all the Pixar films that need a sequel, why do they keep going for the ones with the most complete stories? Why do we need a prequel to Monsters Inc? Why do we need a sequel to Cars? Why the hell have we not gotten an Incredibles 2, yet we have Finding Dory coming up?

Finding Nemo is one of my favorite Pixar films after Ratatouille, and this still baffles me. I hope that it will be good, but I'm just at a loss for ideas on what they will come up with.

Personally, I too am skeptical. I like a lot of Pixar stuff, not so much the sequels, but...

Reality check - movies for kids. I don't know why this site's community in particular has a problem grasping that they are not the intended market for everything they happen to like. Pixar is great about including adults in their perspective, but at the end of the day they make movies for smaller humans with relatively short consumer windows and sequels let them capitalize on all the small people who were infants 5 years ago, get the 10 year olds who were 5 then back into a theater seat, one or both parents to escort them + whoever else (ages taken arbitrarily for ease of example for all the particular people around here).

And yeah, probably got Disney on the trigger here, sure - because they have the cashing in on kids model down cold.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

Personally, I too am skeptical. I like a lot of Pixar stuff, not so much the sequels, but...

Reality check - movies for kids. I don't know why this site's community in particular has a problem grasping that they are not the intended market for everything they happen to like. Pixar is great about including adults in their perspective, but at the end of the day they make movies for smaller humans with relatively short consumer windows and sequels let them capitalize on all the small people who were infants 5 years ago, get the 10 year olds who were 5 then back into a theater seat, one or both parents to escort them + whoever else (ages taken arbitrarily for ease of example for all the particular people around here).

And yeah, probably got Disney on the trigger here, sure - because they have the cashing in on kids model down cold.

Your post reminded me of a quote.

"Your dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway."

Walt Disney said that, I just wished that Pixar and the current suits controlling Disney remembered that. It was that philosophy that drove both companies to such incredible heights.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

NEMO! We GOTS to find you... AGAIN!

It's Pixar, have a little faith. Though, very true, I'd rather see them do something new.

What with all the love for The Incredibles? That movie sucked.

 

[Silvianoshei]

It could be a good movie.

But that doesn't matter apparently. I mean, the internet sure was spot on with the DMC and Tomb Raider reboots.

Carry on, then.

So is your net of counterarguments moving on from just gaming now? Seriously, is it so bad that I am skeptical about a film? It could be good, but I have no idea how they could pull it off. If I remain cautious, then I don't stand to lose anything. If I look forward to it and it sucks, I feel let down. If I stay cautious and it sucks, nothing is lost, but if it is good, I can be pleasantly surprised.

There is a difference between hating on something and staying distant because you have concerns.

All we know is the title and the most basic plot synopsis. I feel like it's a little too early to be making judgments.

That's the same problem I have with the above post talking about how they will only start being concerned if Monster's University turns out to be bad. What is the difference between two bad movies and three bad movies? What is the difference between voicing concerns over a plot synopsis and getting one or two previews?

It's like saying that you aren't allowed to be mad at a game's beta because it isn't indicative of the final product. Sure, it might not be, but are you supposed to withhold all your criticism until a final product is released?

It doesn't work like that with films, there is no beta version where you can try the gameplay and see if you like it. Trailers aren't really indicative of the final product either. I say we just wait and see if it's any good before we say OMG IT SUCKS

 

[Casual Shinji]

Oh God, please no Incredibles sequel.

That movie has nowhere else to go without repeating itself, and no villain go ever match let alone top Syndrome. Mind you this is mainly fear talking, as I fucking LOVE The Incredibles and would hate to see it ruin its nearly perfect score with a possibly bad sequel.

As for Finding Dory. I guess even Pixar can't resist taking a look back in the ol' junkbox. After Brave sucking as hard as it did, they're probably seeking comfort with something reliable.

I don't know, the Incredibles was pretty much a Watchmen Spoof. What if they did something like The Dark Knight Returns deal with an old enemy of Mr Incredible being released and starting a new wave of panic?

I never saw it as a Watchmen spoof honestly. It had plenty of interesting things to say about superheroes and society on its own. Especially regarding the whole "everyone's a winner" mentality, for which the movie was initially critisized.

I think if anything, the movie was kind of a James Bond spoof.

Also the emotial drive of the movie was this family struggling with its own (secret) identity, but by the end they more or less sort themselves out and are allowed to be superheroes again. The characters' arcs are complete. So I don't think a sequel would have anything real to offer other than shenanigans. The types of shenanigans we see in the epiloge of The Incredibles, which to me is the only blemish the movie has.

 

[Nazulu]

Yeah, this one seems like a pointless sequel other than hanging off a popular name. Though I have to say most great films/whatever have had shitty sequels or remakes that raped the franchise and I just ignore them out of existence automatically now.

I'm going to save my shit throwing till I see a teaser or something showing us how terrible the writing is.