You've Got To Be Kidding Me (Finding Nemo 2 Seriously)

[Soviet Heavy]

It could be a good movie.

But that doesn't matter apparently. I mean, the internet sure was spot on with the DMC and Tomb Raider reboots.

Carry on, then.

So is your net of counterarguments moving on from just gaming now? Seriously, is it so bad that I am skeptical about a film? It could be good, but I have no idea how they could pull it off. If I remain cautious, then I don't stand to lose anything. If I look forward to it and it sucks, I feel let down. If I stay cautious and it sucks, nothing is lost, but if it is good, I can be pleasantly surprised.

There is a difference between hating on something and staying distant because you have concerns.

All we know is the title and the most basic plot synopsis. I feel like it's a little too early to be making judgments.

That's the same problem I have with the above post talking about how they will only start being concerned if Monster's University turns out to be bad. What is the difference between two bad movies and three bad movies? What is the difference between voicing concerns over a plot synopsis and getting one or two previews?

It's like saying that you aren't allowed to be mad at a game's beta because it isn't indicative of the final product. Sure, it might not be, but are you supposed to withhold all your criticism until a final product is released?

It doesn't work like that with films, there is no beta version where you can try the gameplay and see if you like it. Trailers aren't really indicative of the final product either. I say we just wait and see if it's any good before we say OMG IT SUCKS

And where am I saying that it sucks? I'm just baffled that it is even being made, and I am raising my concerns. But in some people's minds, that is a bad thing.

I don't see a problem with this. I certainly don't want an Incredibles sequel. Don't we have other things to ***** about? Or do you just have such a great life that this is the worse thing that could happen?

Like this guy for example. What the fuck is so wrong with me not being ecstatic about this news? Why is it such a big fucking deal to some people that someone *gasp* has concerns with a film that they feel the need to be snide or start acting like smug jerks because their tastes differ?

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

With this, Cars 1-2, Brave (haven't seen it, but I've heard it to be rather underwhelming), all the re-releases of the classics and the greatness of Wreck-it Ralph (which wasn't made by Pixar), I've finally got to ask: Has Pixar finally dropped the ball? The last unanimously considered great Pixar movie was Toy Story 3, and that was close to 3 years ago. It would seem to be that their position as the unquestioned ruler of the animated movie industry is starting to shake. Especially with Dreamworks animation seeming to be on the rise with How to Train your Dragon, the Kung fu Panda franchise and Rise of the Guardians.

But screw it, we only need to wait until next summer when the two new Studio Ghibli movies come out and be reminded who the true rulers of animated cinema are.

 

[Latinidiot]

I don't know. Does anyone remember Pirates of the Caribean 4: Let's watch someone be wacky for 3 hours? It was bad, and I really did enjoy the first three, the fourth fell apart because it felt like fanservice, and I fear this might go the same way.

 

[Latinidiot]

I don't know. Does anyone remember Pirates of the Caribean 4: Let's watch someone be wacky for 3 hours? It was bad, and I really did enjoy the first three, the fourth fell apart because it felt like fanservice, and I fear this might go the same way.

 

[putowtin]

Disney "We need something to bring in the merchandise money until the next Star Wars is ready. Thoughts?"
Pixar "I dunno, Nemo 2?"
Disney "Genius! Get on it!"

That's how that worked in my mind (and probably in reality too!)

 

[piinyouri]

I am....indifferent.

I'unno, I've just got other things more important right now.

I really enjoyed the original film buuuut...I can't get mad at this.

 

[GameChanger]

Seriously guys. It's gosh darned Pixar! Of all studios! The worst movie they made is still considered to be a pretty good movie. At worst, they are better than average, at best, they make you cry like a big fat baby.

I'm seeing how this could work, and I'm definitely interested and optimistic about it.

Just wait and see what this will be in stead of immediately disregarding it.

 

[flarty]

I can't wait for Toy Story 4: Play Harder

Although I hate all Pixar films, so this dosn't bother me.

You have no soul

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

I'm starting to worry about you Pixar. The last feature film that you did that was both good and not a sequel was 4 years ago now, and coming up we've got more sequels for 2 of your most forgettable movies (Monster's Inc. and Finding Nemo) and fucking Planes! I mean really... Planes!? Not to mention Dory was Finding Nemo's equivalent of Donkey from Shrek, i.e. Works with a limited shelf life as the comic sidekick. Even Dreamworks haven't been dumb enough (yet) to try and make Donkey carry his own movie.

I'd rather you stuck to new ideas, but if we really must have sequels, let's have more Incredibles and Bug's Life (seriously, I know it's been a while but there are loads of interesting places ou could go with a new Bug's Life). You're still good in my book, but don't rest on you laurels.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

With this, Cars 1-2, Brave (haven't seen it, but I've heard it to be rather underwhelming), all the re-releases of the classics and the greatness of Wreck-it Ralph (which wasn't made by Pixar), I've finally got to ask: Has Pixar finally dropped the ball? The last unanimously considered great Pixar movie was Toy Story 3, and that was close to 3 years ago. It would seem to be that their position as the unquestioned ruler of the animated movie industry is starting to shake. Especially with Dreamworks animation seeming to be on the rise with How to Train your Dragon, the Kung fu Panda franchise and Rise of the Guardians.

But screw it, we only need to wait until next summer when the two new Studio Ghibli movies come out and be reminded who the true rulers of animated cinema are.

I'm just gonna drop in on the end of this post and say that I thought 'Rango' was a fucking incredible movie! On par with Pixar at their best, and with animation quality that far surpassed them.

Pixar may still just about be the industry leaders, but they're by no means undisputed anymore.

 

[Something Amyss]

Why do we need a sequel to Cars?

anything that keeps Larry the Cable Guy off the streets is fine by me.

Buuuut seriously, what? This really is the most complete movie they've made. There is literally no need for for a second Nemo move, even if I kinda sorta want one anyway.

 

[itsthesheppy]

Ugh. Sequels, sequels, sequels....

It's getting to the point where I'll shell out for new IP just on principle.

 

[Silvianoshei]

And where am I saying that it sucks? I'm just baffled that it is even being made, and I am raising my concerns. But in some people's minds, that is a bad thing.

You didn't, But you did say:

It's like saying that you aren't allowed to be mad at a game's beta because it isn't indicative of the final product. Sure, it might not be, but are you supposed to withhold all your criticism until a final product is released?

"I don't understand why this movie is even being made" is not criticism.

You shouldn't be "baffled," it's pretty obvious that it's likely very profitable to make this movie. You can't compare it to a game beta because you don't have available content by which to judge it, only knowledge that it's being made. You haven't sampled it, so while you may "criticize" it, all your criticism is baseless.

Honestly, what "concerns" could you possibly have? They haven't even released a trailer yet. Moreover, how on earth would this movie affect you? If you don't want to watch it, you can just pretend that it doesn't exist and declare it non-canon (LOL).

 

[Soviet Heavy]

And where am I saying that it sucks? I'm just baffled that it is even being made, and I am raising my concerns. But in some people's minds, that is a bad thing.

You didn't, But you did say:

It's like saying that you aren't allowed to be mad at a game's beta because it isn't indicative of the final product. Sure, it might not be, but are you supposed to withhold all your criticism until a final product is released?

"I don't understand why this movie is even being made" is not criticism.

You shouldn't be "baffled," it's pretty obvious that it's likely very profitable to make this movie. You can't compare it to a game beta because you don't have available content by which to judge it, only knowledge that it's being made. You haven't sampled it, so while you may "criticize" it, all your criticism is baseless.

Honestly, what "concerns" could you possibly have? They haven't even released a trailer yet. Moreover, how on earth would this movie affect you? If you don't want to watch it, you can just pretend that it doesn't exist and declare it non-canon (LOL).

So essentially "don't like, don't watch"? Yeah, because that will get us anywhere.

 

[Silvianoshei]

And where am I saying that it sucks? I'm just baffled that it is even being made, and I am raising my concerns. But in some people's minds, that is a bad thing.

You didn't, But you did say:

It's like saying that you aren't allowed to be mad at a game's beta because it isn't indicative of the final product. Sure, it might not be, but are you supposed to withhold all your criticism until a final product is released?

"I don't understand why this movie is even being made" is not criticism.

You shouldn't be "baffled," it's pretty obvious that it's likely very profitable to make this movie. You can't compare it to a game beta because you don't have available content by which to judge it, only knowledge that it's being made. You haven't sampled it, so while you may "criticize" it, all your criticism is baseless.

Honestly, what "concerns" could you possibly have? They haven't even released a trailer yet. Moreover, how on earth would this movie affect you? If you don't want to watch it, you can just pretend that it doesn't exist and declare it non-canon (LOL).

So essentially "don't like, don't watch"? Yeah, because that will get us anywhere.

Where exactly are you trying to go? Also, boiling my argument down to a tangential point (indicated by the word "moreover") is not really an adequate response.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

And where am I saying that it sucks? I'm just baffled that it is even being made, and I am raising my concerns. But in some people's minds, that is a bad thing.

You didn't, But you did say:

It's like saying that you aren't allowed to be mad at a game's beta because it isn't indicative of the final product. Sure, it might not be, but are you supposed to withhold all your criticism until a final product is released?

"I don't understand why this movie is even being made" is not criticism.

You shouldn't be "baffled," it's pretty obvious that it's likely very profitable to make this movie. You can't compare it to a game beta because you don't have available content by which to judge it, only knowledge that it's being made. You haven't sampled it, so while you may "criticize" it, all your criticism is baseless.

Honestly, what "concerns" could you possibly have? They haven't even released a trailer yet. Moreover, how on earth would this movie affect you? If you don't want to watch it, you can just pretend that it doesn't exist and declare it non-canon (LOL).

So essentially "don't like, don't watch"? Yeah, because that will get us anywhere.

Where exactly are you trying to go? Also, boiling my argument down to a tangential point (indicated by the word "moreover") is not really an adequate response.

I'm trying to point out why I'm concerned about this film's existence, while people yell at me for having concerns in the first place. Why must I withhold my judgement until I see more? Yes, when more details are revealed, I will elaborate on my thoughts, but at this point in time, I am not very optimistic about the film.

And then you have people coming in and saying "well, if you don't like it, you can just ignore it like it's non canon!" I'm sorry, but I don't do that. If I dislike something, I'll make my stance clear. I don't pretend something doesn't exist, because that is the same thing as ignoring criticism, only in reverse.

 

[Silvianoshei]

I'm trying to point out why I'm concerned about this film's existence, while people yell at me for having concerns in the first place. Why must I withhold my judgement until I see more? Yes, when more details are revealed, I will elaborate on my thoughts, but at this point in time, I am not very optimistic about the film.

I'm not yelling.I'm not optimistic either, but neither am I pessimistic. My question remains, how can you formulate an opinion on something you have no information about other than, "it's a thing?"

And then you have people coming in and saying "well, if you don't like it, you can just ignore it like it's non canon!" I'm sorry, but I don't do that. If I dislike something, I'll make my stance clear. I don't pretend something doesn't exist, because that is the same thing as ignoring criticism, only in reverse.

Again, how can you dislike something when you don't know anything about it? I'm not taking issue with your ability to have a stance, I'm wondering why you have a stance at all.

 

[Furioso]

Wow, you guys are really hopping on the shit bandwagon way too early, so far the only "bad" Pixar movie (in my opinion) has been Cars 2, and they managed to get 2 fantastic sequels out of Toystory, so if anyone can pull this off it will be Pixar.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

I'm trying to point out why I'm concerned about this film's existence, while people yell at me for having concerns in the first place. Why must I withhold my judgement until I see more? Yes, when more details are revealed, I will elaborate on my thoughts, but at this point in time, I am not very optimistic about the film.

I'm not yelling.I'm not optimistic either, but neither am I pessimistic. My question remains, how can you formulate an opinion on something you have no information about other than, "it's a thing?"

And then you have people coming in and saying "well, if you don't like it, you can just ignore it like it's non canon!" I'm sorry, but I don't do that. If I dislike something, I'll make my stance clear. I don't pretend something doesn't exist, because that is the same thing as ignoring criticism, only in reverse.

Again, how can you dislike something when you don't know anything about it? I'm not taking issue with your ability to have a stance, I'm wondering why you have a stance at all.

Because I'm allowed to have a stance? Because I loved Finding Nemo and their recent track record leaves me worried that they will fuck up this sequel somehow? That I feel Finding Nemo doesn't need a sequel?

There are a number of reasons to have a stance.