You've Got To Be Kidding Me (Finding Nemo 2 Seriously)

[Yopaz]

While I agree that Finding Nemo was a movie that felt complete and shouldn't have need for a sequel and that The Incredibles should get one; I still wish that we hadn't already made up our mind about this already. Sure replace Dory's name with Nemo and we got the first one, but that doesn't mean it can't be good.

Personally I would say that Toy Story felt complete when that ended. Then Toy Story 2 came and it was also a great movie which again got a sequel which might just have been the best in the series.

However most of you have already made up your mind that this wont be good regardless so it's no use trying to reason with you. Let the movie speak for itself. It might be bad, but it might be good. I am hoping Pixar can still deliver and be the one company I can trust when it comes to quality.

 

[frizzlebyte]

Well, the way I see it, if Dan Brown can write 3 really popular, fairly-entertaining books with the same plot, Pixar can make 2 movies ("fairly-entertaining" status of #2 TBD) with the same plot. I probably wouldn't watch it unless my (hypothetical) children wanted to see it, but hey, it's their baby.

 

[Nouw]

I will admit it, I laughed when I first saw the poster but I'll give it a chance.

The real question here is will squishy be in it?

I love this post.

 

[BrassButtons]

Eh, I've yet to see a Pixar film I didn't like (I haven't seen Cars 2 but I don't expect to hate it, and I fucking loved Brave) so I'm not worried yet. Yeah these sequels/prequels may not be as amazing as the originals, but I'll probably still be entertained by them. And if doing things this way allows them to make more money for focusing on other, better projects? I'm completely fine with that.

 

[Angie7F]

Well, they have to milk what ever worked in the past...
I mean, I just watched tv advertisement for Hingdom of Hearts 1.5.

 

[verdant monkai]

It's very simple guys...

It would be great if they used some ten year olds fan fiction script imagine how trippy it would be.

 

[Ldude893]

I'm sorry, this is off-topic, but I just had to say that your avatar is fucking hilarious.

Thanks. Made it right after the news of Riccitiello's resignation came out. I might change it to something Lucasarts related soon, though.

 

[Strain42]

Okay, lemme get a few things out of the way because people seem to have trouble grasping these for some reason

1. Planes is being made by Disney...NOT Pixar. The closest thing Pixar has to a hand in it is that Lasseter is producing, but he produces a lot of non-pixar works these days, so it's whatever (and to those assuming it's going to be crap just because it is disney instead of Pixar, just remember that Disney did do wreck-it-ralph)

2. To all the people going "Disney is forcing them to make these sequels!" that's not exactly true either. While it MIGHT be the case for something like Monsters University or this film, it's not the case with Cars 2. Lasseter has said in several interviews that he really likes the Cars universe and he really wanted to do the sequel. So no, Disney didn't force anyone to make that sequel.

Okay, now on topic...I admit, I have very mixed feelings about this. I knew they were making a Finding Nemo sequel, and I was mostly okay with that idea, because I honestly look at Cars 2 and (what I've seen of) Monsters University.

'cause really...look at those two movies. They aren't so much sequels as they are movies just set in the same universe while sharing characters.

I look at Cars 2 and I see it as Pixar's attempt to do a Spy movie (and it wasn't a bad spy movie) first and as a Cars sequel secondly. It just seems like they wanted to do a Spy movie and then decided to have it in the Cars universe, and I personally think it worked pretty well (but I'm one of those weirdos that liked Cars 2 more than Cars 1)

Same with Monsters University. I see it as Pixar wanting to just do a college movie. Their own take on Animal House or Revenge of the Nerds or Van Wilder, just with their own Pixar take on it. Personally, if they wanna do a college movie, I'm actually kinda glad to see it in the Monsters, Inc. universe than if they just tried to do people or something.

And I think that's why I'm (currently) sort of on edge about Finding Dory. After Cars 2 and Monsters University, I figured Pixar used these sequels to mix things up some. To take an existing world, and not just do a sequel to it, but do a new kind of story with it. So I just assumed the sequel we were getting would be Nemo and Friends but on a new type of adventure.

I didn't think they'd be so quick to go back to having a character disappear under freak circumstances and have other characters face the ocean depths to go after them.

Now I'm willing to reserve final judgement until I see more, but from what we've heard, unlike Cars 2 or Monsters University, this seems like their sequel idea is to take the first one and give it a fresh coat of the same paint rather than trying to do something new or interesting with the world it takes place it.

I could go on and on about my thoughts on this matter, but I've said enough for now.

I have to say though, it's actually really nice to talk about this with people.

 

[Gatx]

I'm willing to keep an open mind about this. Now, I'm in the intended age group for the Toy Story series - came out when I was a kid, 3 came out when I started my first year of college, that whole thing was pretty much perfect but I didn't expect it to be. I thought 2 was just okay so when 3 came out I thought it was a bit of a cash grab move on their part, though after watching it, I can see that it was planned all along (though 2 is still kind of random).

Now with Monsters Inc. and University, the generation that grew up with that is younger than the Toy Story one, and it has it's own fans. Plus it's been 12 years since Monsters Inc came out and it's just about about time for those fans to go to college, yes?

I'm willing to trust Pixar that Finding Nemo 2, or Finding Dory or w/e, will have a reason for existing.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Why does nobody ever acknowledge that there already is a sequel to The Incredibles in the form of a PS2 game? I've never played it, so I can't speak to the quality, but as I understand it's about as direct as sequels get, picking up where the last scene of the movie left off, and showing how the heroes deal with that new villain from the last scene of the movie, The Underminer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredibles:_Rise_of_the_Underminer

It's like admitting there is a fourth Indiana Jones movie, or that there was another Final Fantasy game with a female protagonist (FFX-2 doesn't count)

OR that reboot of Spiderman people keep telling me about.

And having a sequel on a completely different medium to the original is weird.

 

[The Funslinger]

Oh God, please no Incredibles sequel.

That movie has nowhere else to go without repeating itself, and no villain go ever match let alone top Syndrome. Mind you this is mainly fear talking, as I fucking LOVE The Incredibles and would hate to see it ruin its nearly perfect score with a possibly bad sequel.

As for Finding Dory. I guess even Pixar can't resist taking a look back in the ol' junkbox. After Brave sucking as hard as it did, they're probably seeking comfort with something reliable.

I don't know, the Incredibles was pretty much a Watchmen Spoof. What if they did something like The Dark Knight Returns deal with an old enemy of Mr Incredible being released and starting a new wave of panic?

Well, it ended with the mole people attacking, so I assumed that was the sequel hook.

 

[Dangit2019]

the whole "take the comic relief character and make them the star of their own movie" thing always sounds better on paper.

Really? I can't think of one instance where that didn't work; I mean-

Spoiler: ...oh.

Many others of course, but that's the one that springs to mind when a sequel is revealed to lack the core main characters.

 

[Ishal]

I will reserve my judgement until I actually see a result. Pixar are more than capable of making some amazing films and surprising us.

Dreamworks knocked it out of the park with Guardians and most people thought Dreamworks were dead in the water.

Was that the Owl movie?

OT: I think I'll remain optimistic. I see it as something to tide me over until they make something on par with "UP". I know they will too, its just a matter of time.

Though I never liked the character of Dory. Guess I'm a humbug

 

[Bleidd Whitefalcon]

Oh, and let's not forget "planes". In the universe of cars. The film that sucked first time round, and even more the next time. AND NOW THEY'RE DOING IT AGAIN, WITH FUCKING PLANES.

I give up.

Wait, seriously? They're doing a film called Planes with the same theme as Cars?

Shoot me now.

OT: I liked finding Nemo, and I have a friend who's super excited about it, so there's no doubt I'm going to end up seeing it.

I'm trying to stay neutral, I don't think it'll be great, but hopefully it'll have enough funny moments to not feel like a waste of time. :/

Unfortunately yes. It's not even Pixar doing it - it's Disney's in-house studio.

OT: I was hoping that it was an april fool's joke... Nemo doesn't need a sequel. Especially not with Dory as the main since she can't have an arc. She'll forget everything within half an hour >.>

 

[Bobic]

Oh jesus are we really going to do the fucking "life is beautiful, so stop being so negative man!" hippie crap now? I didn't realize that the opinions of one person on the internet could piss off so many people, but there you go. Take your own advice and live your amazing life, and stop complaining about another person who doesn't affect you in the slightest on the internet.

When you see death and dying people every day at work, I guess you start to appreciate shit a bit more and don't have time to complain about movies on the internet. When you have done CPR on a 10 year old in the middle of a road, the sequel to a Pixar movie hardly seems worth the energy to complain about. If you think it is something worth arguing over, feel free.

Don't have time to complain about movies on the internet but do have time to complain about people complaining about the movies on the internet. Dude, this is the guys free time, if he enjoys discussing movies, their merits and failings on the internet, then just fucking let him.

@Soviet Heavy. Jesus, I would never have predicted this thread would go so badly, Sorry dude. For what it's worth, I too, think Finding Dory is a bad idea, Finding Nemo was fine on it's own, and I just don't see how a movie based around Dory would work (Then again, I'm not much of a Dory fan, and the comparison a guy made on the last page about a movie based around Shrek's Donkey is a very apt one indeed.)

 

[Voulan]

I'm annoyed because this movie doesn't have any reason to be made other than to tie in to an established and successful franchise for cash, but since it is Pixar, it's going to be okay at worst. I find it really hard to hate on Pixar. Although, now that they've started ruining their past successes by doing what the film industry does best, creating useless sequels that no one has asked for, their reputation is starting to sour. Stop while you're ahead, Pixar!

 

[Gatx]

I will reserve my judgement until I actually see a result. Pixar are more than capable of making some amazing films and surprising us.

Dreamworks knocked it out of the park with Guardians and most people thought Dreamworks were dead in the water.

While Guardians was a good movie, apparently it didn't do too hot in the box office, and was just okay critically (user score on IMDB is better though). Personally I'm not quite sure where I stand with them, they milk their movies a lot, and of the ones that don't get a bunch of sequels, they're doing TV series now (Kung Fu Panda's okay, so is Dragons which gets bonus points for having most of the original cast, but Monsters vs Aliens is crap). I'm also not too excited about The Croods.

I already said my piece above, but I do want to add a bit - I thought Cars was a great, quality Pixar title, really taps into the car and road culture of Americana (which according to moviebob was also why it didn't resonate with the standard Pixar audience that leans more towards geek stuff), so for Cars 2 to be a cash in is a bit disappointing. We'll just have to see if Monsters University turns out to be another cash in or a solid Toy Story 3 type thing (letting the series age with its target audience, a weird statement considering it's a prequel) to get a better read on whether or not Finding Dory will be a cash in or a good movie.

Was that the Owl movie?

OT: I think I'll remain optimistic. I see it as something to tide me over until they make something on par with "UP". I know they will too, its just a matter of time.

Though I never liked the character of Dory. Guess I'm a humbug

It's the one where Santa Claus, Jack Frost, the Easter Bunny, the Sandman, and the Tooth Fairy team up to form a JLA of childhood figures.

 

[dfphetteplace]

I personally do not care that much. I found Nemo to be the most overrated of all of Pixar's movies. For me I do not think that a sequel would reduce my opinion of the original that much.

Because it is a fucking movie. If you don't want to watch, don't. Tons of movies, music, tv shows, ect. are terrible. I don't feel the need to ***** about them, I just don't watch them. Why waste my time and energy complaining about a movie? The studio doesn't care what you think. If they want to make the movie, and it seems like it will make money (Which it is Pixar, so it will), they are going to make, regardless of whether "Soviet Heavy" thinks it is a good idea or not. There are much more important things to concern yourself with than a movie sequel. Life is pretty fucking amazing, and we live in a time in which we are better off than almost ever before, and people just jump online to complain about a movie.

I always find this amusing. People on a forum that discusses video games, cartoons and other forms of entertainment bitching that people shouldn't spend much energy or worry debating movies, games, etc. We do it because we love these things. Movies are profound experiences for many of us and we hold them as our own. Why do you think people spend so much time bitching about the changes to Star Wars? It's because it goes against their interpretation of the universe. Sure it's not real and they wouldn't change George Lucas' mind. But Star Wars is a shared experience that drives people to debate. I love movies and love to debate the different merits of different films with my friends. That's what gets my synapses firing. To try and diminish someone's opinion by marginalizing the subject is arrogant. This person holds Finding Nemo dear to them and it would lessen their enjoyment of the story and characters if they came out with a sequel that was sub par. So they will fret and debate up until it comes into theaters because to them it matters. So in conclusion please get off that high horse or maybe you shouldn't frequent these types of websites if they cause you that much resentment.

Then he could not watch it.

 

[dfphetteplace]

Oh jesus are we really going to do the fucking "life is beautiful, so stop being so negative man!" hippie crap now? I didn't realize that the opinions of one person on the internet could piss off so many people, but there you go. Take your own advice and live your amazing life, and stop complaining about another person who doesn't affect you in the slightest on the internet.

When you see death and dying people every day at work, I guess you start to appreciate shit a bit more and don't have time to complain about movies on the internet. When you have done CPR on a 10 year old in the middle of a road, the sequel to a Pixar movie hardly seems worth the energy to complain about. If you think it is something worth arguing over, feel free.

Don't have time to complain about movies on the internet but do have time to complain about people complaining about the movies on the internet. Dude, this is the guys free time, if he enjoys discussing movies, their merits and failings on the internet, then just fucking let him.

@Soviet Heavy. Jesus, I would never have predicted this thread would go so badly, Sorry dude. For what it's worth, I too, think Finding Dory is a bad idea, Finding Nemo was fine on it's own, and I just don't see how a movie based around Dory would work (Then again, I'm not much of a Dory fan, and the comparison a guy made on the last page about a movie based around Shrek's Donkey is a very apt one indeed.)

I guess I should complain, ***** and moan about pointless crap more often and be a cynical prick, um, because I enjoy video games? Okay, right.

 

[Bobic]

Oh jesus are we really going to do the fucking "life is beautiful, so stop being so negative man!" hippie crap now? I didn't realize that the opinions of one person on the internet could piss off so many people, but there you go. Take your own advice and live your amazing life, and stop complaining about another person who doesn't affect you in the slightest on the internet.

When you see death and dying people every day at work, I guess you start to appreciate shit a bit more and don't have time to complain about movies on the internet. When you have done CPR on a 10 year old in the middle of a road, the sequel to a Pixar movie hardly seems worth the energy to complain about. If you think it is something worth arguing over, feel free.

Don't have time to complain about movies on the internet but do have time to complain about people complaining about the movies on the internet. Dude, this is the guys free time, if he enjoys discussing movies, their merits and failings on the internet, then just fucking let him.

@Soviet Heavy. Jesus, I would never have predicted this thread would go so badly, Sorry dude. For what it's worth, I too, think Finding Dory is a bad idea, Finding Nemo was fine on it's own, and I just don't see how a movie based around Dory would work (Then again, I'm not much of a Dory fan, and the comparison a guy made on the last page about a movie based around Shrek's Donkey is a very apt one indeed.)

I guess I should complain, ***** and moan about pointless crap more often and be a cynical prick, um, because I enjoy video games? Okay, right.

Because bitching, moaning and acting all high and mighty about people complaining about pointless crap is way different and a much better use of your time right?