Zero Punctuation: Fable 3

[WaderiAAA]

So the game is good old-fashioned Deontology propaganda.

It is worth mentioning that the most significant (as far as I know at least) philosopher supporting Deontology - Immanuel Kant - thought that if a man was running away from a murderer and asked you to lend him shelter, doing so was the right thing to do, but if the murderer then came to ask if you had seen the man, telling him the truth would be the right thing to do as well - because lying is evil and to tell the truth is more important than helping someone not get murdered.

If a game gives you a moral choice that is actually good, why do they have to mess it up by labelling one as the good one.

 

[Thespian]

By the by I just noticed...

Did anyone else realize that in the Fable 2 review, Yahtzee asked why he couldn't marry his dog...

And now he is giving out about the game letting you engage in amorous actions with your furry friend.

HYPOCRISY!

 

[Shroomhell]

what? you can't sell large quantities of gems and buy them back for less repeatedly for more/extra gold?

 

[ziggy161]

I just realised the bread is $599 US dollars xD Yay go Breadstation 3

 

[SageRuffin]

Would be nice if you stopped throwing in your anti white rhetoric every review. Blah blah rednecks have 18 kids, blah blah having a white hero is racist. God forbid that if white people make a game they have a white hero, how unthinkable.

Otherwise good review, but I think I'm done watching these because of this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the point Yahtzee's trying to make is that, like he said in the video, for some odd reason you can't be taught to be a Hero (whatever the fuck that means given the context of both Fables II and III). It's always been "Oh look, this little macguffin reacts to you, making you automatically destined for greatness despite the fact that you actually may not be fit for the task or that you even know WHAT THE FUCK'S GOING ON". You know, kinda like The Legend of Zelda in a sense; minus the whole thing about everyone else knowing what's going on while you search for cryptic clues.

In the first Fable Heroes were taught to become such, if I recall. And there were more than a few non-white Heroes, two of which were major NPCs in fact. Fable 2 comes along, set 500 or so years after the first one, and you're a Hero, but recall you weren't taught to be one; you were a Hero because of some divine intervention or some shit because you happened to be a descendant of the Hero from the first game. This actually fucks up the lore quite a bit along the lines of what the prequels did to the Star Wars mythos concerning Jedi and the force; the fact that no more Heroes are around in Fable II certainly doesn't help matters. Fable 3 rolls up, and you're the second child of the Hero from the second game. This further cements the idea that you can't be taught to be a Hero, it's now genetic much like the Harry Potter series. Add the fact that you can't change the ethnicity of the Hero in question (probably just a design oversight I'm guessing), and you have Yahtzee's complaint.

I apologize for that rant. In short, Yahtzee's played through all three games and he just so happened to make an observation about the consistency of Heroes at large. No harm done, really.

 

[ofta]

Actually i managed to go 100% good pay off everything and save everyone O.O

 

[jonyboy13]

Hmm, I just thought about something.
Wouldn't it be nice if Yahtzee make another review like Console Rundown.
Basically a more general review than a certain game, since nothing good is coming out for a while.

 

[sumguitardude]

That same shit happend to me too.
I just collected a ton of cash and was ready to use it all to defend all my beloved slavhrrm.. people. When it suddenly just jumped to the final fucking battle!
I was furious cuz i missed the achievement for the perfect ending, dam u fable 3 dam u!!!
SPOILER:




Also the end battle has to be weakest most crap thing ever conceived, i mean its like the developers stopped caring at the end and more like they where fed up with the game and wanted to just finish it. WORST FINAL BOSS EWA!!!
That said great review mate^^

 

[VondeVon]

I find it interesting that you disliked the 'make out with your dog' aspect, considering you promoted it at the end of your Prince of Persia review.

In fact, I'm just going to go ahead and blame you for Fable's step-too-far.

 

[Dennis Jakobsen]

Fable 3

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Fable 3.

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I'll warn you that this will be off topic, but since i can't create a new Topic as a paying member (puzzling?) i'll post a reply to the video that made me aware of the problem..

I noticed a "view HTML5" when i was watching the latest ZP HD in Flash.. "COOL!" i exclaimed loudly.. having been a Firefox 4 beta tester for awhile and joined the Youtube Html5 test long ago.. so i clicked the button and got the exact same page, with a flash player.. "NOT cool!" i exclaimed .. but not so loud this time.. more like an annoyed mumble.. as if i had a large dwarf beard and the words did not want to leave it..

 

[beefpelican]

Man, I'm going to play that, and now I'll be expecting the shoggoth and such. Ah well. I guess I can't complain, seeing as I didn't stop watching once the spoilers showed up.

 

[duchaked]

something tells me Peter M. stopped watching any Zero Punctuation reviews after Fable II
so I suppose he won't be seeing this video haha

man imagine a game where you meet characters with actual personalities and you might actually really like (oh, like in Mass Effect) and want to marry or otherwise...

actually wait never mind cuz if you can get too into it someone in Japan is gonna marry their digital girlfriend

 

[cefm]

So you can make decisions that are popular with the uneducated moronic masses in the short term but will lead to catastrophic disasters and loss of life down the road? That's not "Evil", that's called being a U.S. Republican.

I actually liked Fable 1, but thought that the X-Box limited Fable 2 was a disappointment that made the bad parts worse and the good parts....un-gooder. Fable 3 looks like its going even further down the same drain. Crap.

 

[WilliamRLBaker]

Couldn't agree more but I would have had far harhser words for the game as a whole but would have talked more about the stupid glitches.

So you can make decisions that are popular with the uneducated moronic masses in the short term but will lead to catastrophic disasters and loss of life down the road? That's not "Evil", that's called being a U.S. Republican.

I actually liked Fable 1, but thought that the X-Box limited Fable 2 was a disappointment that made the bad parts worse and the good parts....un-gooder. Fable 3 looks like its going even further down the same drain. Crap.

~_* xbox limited hmm? what do you mean the first fable I believe started its life as a pc game and was released on both pc and original xbox. It has nothing really to do with xbox limiting the game but Molyneux being an *****.

 

[NightmareTaco]

That 150-day zoom-past-you crap happened to me too! Now I don't even have any citizens to complain about! BLARGH!

 

[Neferius]

Right! So I guess I haven't missed anything since Fable 1 then.
Cheerio m8

 

[Jared Arbizu]

Seriously, this is exactly what I was saying about the game when it happened to me. I did the exact same thing, saving my money and waiting to give all the money near the end so that way everything would be cool. 150 days go by and WTF apparently my retarded character (who had all the money he needed) decided to be inactive and instead of donating the money, he let everyone die without giving me a choice in the matter. I didn't even finish the game. After that little bit of horrible design, I was too mad to play it anymore.

All in all, the game was the same as Fable II but with some good additions and some bad subtractions. The menu system was interesting, something I haven't seen before. It functions just like a normal menu except you're basically using your character as the select cursor and the different rooms are the different sub-menus. They removed some parts of the gameplay that made Fable II good (like chain attacks and counters that actually make sense) and still failed to balance the skills (which made me feel stupid for wanting to be a melee character, since it wasn't a very efficient form of attack). They made interaction with NPCs way more irritating since I couldn't choose my expressions anymore (who wants to do a gay dance with a guy who is bald and has a big ugly moustache?), which made it almost worse than the Fable 1 NPC interaction.

 

[Sifer2]

Hmm Sounds like Fable 3 is as bad as 2 was. The first one fell short of what it aimed to be but was a least something a little new an fun. Now its like some gimped version of the Sim's with adventure elements only they suck cause of it being far too easy to be compelling.

 

[WoodyB]

I completely agree with Yahtzee; it IS nice to see Mark Heap still getting work!