Zero Punctuation: Heavy Rain
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Oh wow, I had a lot of trouble trying to load the video XD But it was all worthy, this one was another great review. I was sure Yahtzee wouldn't like it, but in the end he kind of did, which was surprising!
But really, putting a dick joke at the end of the video is getting old.
But really, putting a dick joke at the end of the video is getting old.
So it would seem that Yahtzee ultimately has mixed feelings about Heavy Rain.
I can't really say I'm surprised by his complaints with regard to the first 1-3 hours of the game. He has openly admitted that he doesn't have much patience and that he's one of those instant gratification guys. Or in other words exactly the kind of person who shouldn't be playing a game like this. But of course this does make the positive things he has to say about the game all the more pleasantly surprising.
Nevertheless I still have one complaint about this review and it's pretty much the same one I have with regard to his Bayonetta review. He never actually addresses the question of whether the game is good or not.
And the replay value of the game doesn't exist with the mystery obviously. It's there if you want to try and make different choices and see how said choices affect the story.
And the quick time action sequences do constitute choices. One could choose to deliberately screw them up just to see what happens. So they are in fact choices, just not conventional ones. Which is just as well because there's very little about this game that IS conventional.
I can't really say I'm surprised by his complaints with regard to the first 1-3 hours of the game. He has openly admitted that he doesn't have much patience and that he's one of those instant gratification guys. Or in other words exactly the kind of person who shouldn't be playing a game like this. But of course this does make the positive things he has to say about the game all the more pleasantly surprising.
Nevertheless I still have one complaint about this review and it's pretty much the same one I have with regard to his Bayonetta review. He never actually addresses the question of whether the game is good or not.
And the replay value of the game doesn't exist with the mystery obviously. It's there if you want to try and make different choices and see how said choices affect the story.
And the quick time action sequences do constitute choices. One could choose to deliberately screw them up just to see what happens. So they are in fact choices, just not conventional ones. Which is just as well because there's very little about this game that IS conventional.
Yes some of them are, and one or two of them are some he should have left his mouth shut for.D4zZ said:
OT: I can't help but feel that this will be an open invitation for; People who haven't played the game to act like morons and not play it, and people who have played the game to stupidly hate it.
Yes I know YZ is a critic, and it's his job to hate the game, but some people are just so phenomenally stupid that they'll take his reviews seriously.
The game is flawed, but it has a Prince of Persia effect it you will. Although it's not a "game" per say, it still gets so close to perfection that all of it's flaws get more, and more glaring.
Oh! For people who will ***** that it's not a "game," if you think about it neither is Rock Band.
Heh, quite good review.
I loved the game through and through. I love the concept of multiple Heroes discovering the plot on their own, so when I heard about it, I knew I will like it. If the first few chapters have to be slow to let us get a connection with the Heroes, then so be it. I have no problems with that.
Oh, and I think that argument about pointlessness of replaying the game if the killer is the same is flawed, especially considering WHO turned out to be the killer.
I loved the game through and through. I love the concept of multiple Heroes discovering the plot on their own, so when I heard about it, I knew I will like it. If the first few chapters have to be slow to let us get a connection with the Heroes, then so be it. I have no problems with that.
Oh, and I think that argument about pointlessness of replaying the game if the killer is the same is flawed, especially considering WHO turned out to be the killer.
Well... 17 epilogues to be specific. They differ based on other epilogues (who died, who survived, etc.), but I wouldn't count it as definitive 'new' epilogue. Still, that's a lot, and the I had a lot of fun getting all of them.
Wooo Hartlepool! I dont live there, but i live damn close!
Anyway, great episode, i lol'd all the way through, but the Apple tree gag made me cry for soem reason..
Anyway, great episode, i lol'd all the way through, but the Apple tree gag made me cry for soem reason..
I think he was trying to say that the game tried TOO hard. Making your character even do the most mundane things can get boring. It's hard to be immersed in a game if you're bored.Mr Thomsos said:
JaredXE said:
I payed attention to that too. He never uses the words "a big quicktime event".
And sorry if I come off as rude but it seems that you're just using your own preconceived idea as an interpretation of Yahtzee's words. One could just as easily say that Yahtzee means that QTEs are a very essential part of the game. This would seem to be an especially valid interpretation in light of the fact that he also indicates that QTE's are not the only part of the game.
Considering the fact that Yahtzee hates QTE's, and the game is arguably one long QTE, this is actually a GLOWING review for the game from him.
Huh... really? the ending is the same no matter what? geez even Ripper had multiple endings... granted they were technically the same too but with different names
I still think it's worth awank-i mean look, i haven't played an FMV game before so i think it'd be interesting...kinda
I still think it's worth a
What is it with all the sheep on this site who use Yahtzee's opinion to decided whether to get a game? Seriously.
Also, the reason things start off so mundane is to ease players into the control scheme and let them get accustomed to it. Thought tbh, I liked Fahrenheit's intro more, as it was more tense and exciting.
Also, the reason things start off so mundane is to ease players into the control scheme and let them get accustomed to it. Thought tbh, I liked Fahrenheit's intro more, as it was more tense and exciting.
VGFreak1225 said:
It seems to me that all the plot hole accusations that have been directed at Heavy Rain are largely misguided and overblown. I've argued this before but Heavy Rain is a game that frequently pushes against the boundaries of plausibility but never actually crosses the line in the way that some other games have such as Indigo Prophecy or Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.
Most, if not all, of the alleged plot holes (or oddities or inconsistencies within the plot of the game) can be easily explained away. And Yahtzee has strongly indicated that he has no problem with explaining things away. This is evident with his review of Condemned 2 and with his latest extra punctuation piece on Audio logs.