Zero Punctuation: Metal Gear Solid 4

[Jumplion]

I can't remember, did they ever say what the origin of "La Li Lu Le Lo"? I don't mean the Patriots, I mean the actual phrase. Was it something that originated with the Philosophers, or was it something the Patriots came up with during Zero's time?

I'm not sure about this, but i think that some of the people couldn't say "Patriots" or "Philosiphors" (nanomachines i think) so they resorted to saying La Li Lu Le Lo. Not sure if that's entierly true or true at all.

 

[TerraMGP]

First time I remember hearing that was with Tommy boy. I'm sure its somewhere else as well but I remember Tommy boy

 

[fundude365]

I find it somewhat amusing that both Gamespot (tm) (also, Jerks) and Yahtzee have both picked up on much the same points of MGS4 but have taken utterly different stances on each of them... For Gamespot the fact that Combat is Challenging but you can succeed regardless makes this part of the game accomplished. Yahtzee, being a bi... somewh... a LOT more discerning as a game reviewer, realises that this is through a combination of bad combat controls and bad AI. Beyond making that point, all I can say is I concur with all of Yahtzee's sentiments and declare this latest intallment a smashing success (90min cutscene everybody, need any more be said?)

 

[shatnershaman]

Ah ha, BUT you can play (most) games over and over again and it will still be appealing to you. (Most) Movies get old after the first few runs of it.

PLUS, multiplayer. I don't think watching a movie with friends count as multiplayer for movies.

But really, you'd rather see a movie than get a movie and a game all in one? If that's so, then i feel very sorry for you.

I'm guessing you don't buy the $30 special editions (documentary,commentaries,deleted scens)
I have watched Holy Grail 10 times and I've only had it for 3 weeks. Yes the game is probably better I just find the gameplay parts of MGS4 shitty. I am the Halo guy remember.

 

[Jumplion]

Ah ha, BUT you can play (most) games over and over again and it will still be appealing to you. (Most) Movies get old after the first few runs of it.

PLUS, multiplayer. I don't think watching a movie with friends count as multiplayer for movies.

But really, you'd rather see a movie than get a movie and a game all in one? If that's so, then i feel very sorry for you.

Actually the thing with movies getting old after the first few times is why I skip cutscenes and codec calls on the second and third runs through every Metal Gear game. Even when I played MGS2 for the first time in at least two years and I promised myself I would listen to everything like I did the first time I played it, I couldn't help but skip the opening scene in the Plant Chapter.

As lengthy as the cutscenes are, I do try to sit back and enjoy them the first time I play. Really frustrating if you have to use the bathroom in the middle of one. Thank god for the pause button in MGS4.

Hey, i never said that i watched the cutscenes the second and third time around. THough i absolutely love the beggining cutscene and the fanale one at Act 3 (FUCKING SWEET)

Ah ha, BUT you can play (most) games over and over again and it will still be appealing to you. (Most) Movies get old after the first few runs of it.

PLUS, multiplayer. I don't think watching a movie with friends count as multiplayer for movies.

But really, you'd rather see a movie than get a movie and a game all in one? If that's so, then i feel very sorry for you.

I'm guessing you don't buy the $30 special editions (documentary,commentaries,deleted scens)
I have watched Holy Grail 10 times and I've only had it for 3 weeks. Yes the game is probably better I just find the gameplay parts of MGS4 shitty. I am the Halo guy remember.

Please notice how i said "most" movies loose repitition. And the same thing goes with the commentaries and deleted scenes, once you watch them once you're going to have a tough time wanting to watch them again unless you want to watch it with friends.

And seriously, c'mon, a movie over a game and a movie? Really? You've got to be kidding me.

 

[Roblin]

I can't remember, did they ever say what the origin of "La Li Lu Le Lo"? I don't mean the Patriots, I mean the actual phrase. Was it something that originated with the Philosophers, or was it something the Patriots came up with during Zero's time?

I'm not sure about this, but i think that some of the people couldn't say "Patriots" or "Philosiphors" (nanomachines i think) so they resorted to saying La Li Lu Le Lo. Not sure if that's entierly true or true at all.

Awkward if your an american football fan.

 

[shatnershaman]

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Please notice how i said "most" movies loose repetition. And the same thing goes with the commentaries and deleted scenes, once you watch them once you're going to have a tough time wanting to watch them again unless you want to watch it with friends.

And seriously, come on, a movie over a game and a movie? Really? You've got to be kidding me.

I don't buy movies that are in the most. You haven't heard the Simpson/Futurama commentaries (including the movies). If I don't like the game part of the game movie why pay the $30 extra.

 

[imPacT31]

I can't remember, did they ever say what the origin of "La Li Lu Le Lo"? I don't mean the Patriots, I mean the actual phrase. Was it something that originated with the Philosophers, or was it something the Patriots came up with during Zero's time?

I'm not sure about this, but i think that some of the people couldn't say "Patriots" or "Philosiphors" (nanomachines i think) so they resorted to saying La Li Lu Le Lo. Not sure if that's entierly true or true at all.

Awkward if your an american football fan.

People under the direct control of the Patriots, via nanomachines, were unable to refer to the Patriots. Their nanomachines forced them to say La Li Lu Le Lo instead.

No idea where the phrase itself originates though.

 

[karpiel]

Seeing a game like this makes me pine for the times when John Carmack's statement about video game plots had a sound foundation in fact.

 

[fundude365]

Honestly while it was a enjoyable review, i feel it falls into the same trap that SSBB review did.

The problem is when Yahtzee resigns himself to play a game he has no real liking in it shows in the review

Well... yes... I believe that this is largely the point, he takes what he doesn't like about a game and presents it to the world for the steaming pile of bullshit he believes it to be. The trouble is us, the viewing public... I would rather jam rusty needles into my bone-marrow than see the state of Yahtzee's e-mail client prior to this review. It must have been similar to the opening week of WOW (everyone scrabbling for names of main characters in the Warcraft series and not being able to run down a main street without spotting an @rtI-I@s or something coming the other way) only this time reading more alond the lines of: MGS4; Metal Gear Please!; MGS4tw! ad infinitum. surely we should be allowed more leeway in his selection of games (although I myself was praying for him to rip the guts out of this game... MGS has never been a GOOD series)

 

[TerraMGP]

I keep saying, Tommy boy, La li Lu Le Lo.... come on people

 

[TerraMGP]

Because to lead a shadow government you have to like tommy boy.

 

[GeeDave]

Has anyone else who's participated in this thread looked at the 20+ pages it's grown to and thought about letting out a little "I'm sorry"?

No? Just me?... continue then.

 

[Jumplion]

Has anyone else who's participated in this thread looked at the 20+ pages it's grown to and thought about letting out a little "I'm sorry"?

No? Just me?... continue then.

There's nothing like a healthy, civilized, argument for the sake of arguing.

 

[GeeDave]

There's nothing like a healthy, civilized, argument for the sake of arguing.

I disagree!

*argument*

*mild insult*

*seemingly random comment that i'll need to edit out later*