Joe Biden announces Kamala Harris as running mate.

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Of course we can't, these are lefties. They are convinced the democratic party is 100 times worse then the republicans and if the republicans continue to win over and over again they will somehow magically get their way.
The Democrats are hoping to elect a man who's VP believes he's a rapist. At least the Republicans have the decency to deny that rheir candidate is a rapist. When the Dems are running on "choose our rapist, he's better (not at rapes)" reeaalllly hard to claim they're the good guys.
 

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The Democrats are hoping to elect a man who's VP believes he's a rapist. At least the Republicans have the decency to deny that rheir candidate is a rapist. When the Dems are running on "choose our rapist, he's better (not at rapes)" reeaalllly hard to claim they're the good guys.
They’re both perpetuating the delusion that this beast called a nation has anything to offer humanity but the myths necessary to justify the murders of the innocent. I hesitate to call the Democrats worse because their deceit is more contradictory in this case.
 
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3) She (younger, woman of color focused on domestic issues) a very direct contrast to Biden (older, white male focused on foreign policy) without appearing out of step with him on core issues of the party.
Not appearing out of step with Biden is actually a negative. Kamala Harris is terrible, but we shouldn't let that overshadow how terrible Joe Biden is.
 

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Can we stop with this revisionist bull shit? Or did you live under a rock during our 2008 election? Or maybe the only news station from the US you guys get over there comes directly from the KKK? This stupid freaking excuse for what was wrong with Obama, "OH IT'S WACISM!!!!" being used every single time someone has a problem with someone who's black. Get over yourself.
Its hardly revisionist. Even at the time many people clung to the belief Obama couldn't possibly be American, something he'd never would have been questioned on of he was white. The opposition to Obama from the Republicans could at best be described as fanatical too.
 
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Genuine question to all those who support Biden right now. Was Harris lying about believing those women for political gain or would she just prefer that the rapists in power represent her party?
Guessing the latter, lesser evil and all.

Its hardly revisionist. Even at the time many people clung to the belief Obama couldn't possibly be American, something he'd never would have been questioned on of he was white. The opposition to Obama from the Republicans could at best be described as fanatical too.
Yeah, remember (for example) the non-stop birther nonsense? I wish I didn't have to.
 
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You say, "It was a vocal minority" proving my point, then say someone making it out as if the whole country was out to lynch him isn't being revisionist?
Jesus Christ dude. Stop being offended at everything, especially when I'm semi-agreeing with you.

Also, show me EXACTLY where anyone on this thread was talking about lynching? Because, you've got your own thing going on, and pretending we're thinking that way. How about you stop putting word in our mouths and listen to what we say? No one brought up lynching or the KKK, except you.

Because I remember that election, I remember a HUGE surge of positivity for Obama. EVERYONE seemed to be excited for his presidency and the marketing was gigantic and after he got elected he was all over the place. Does this look like the kind of thing you'd expect to see from a nation that was on fire because of the white man combo-breaker?

Yes, because people liking Obama means that no one disliked him. Is that the logic we are going with here? Yes, a whole bunch of people were positive. Also, at the same time, there was a whole bunch of people being negative. Pretending that EVERYONE was excited for his presidency is a factual lie. Please stop making things up.

????????? Yeah, because me getting pissed that people won't hold Obama responsible for his crap presidency by playing the race card all the time has anything to do with me feeling attacked? What a bizarre take.
This is for everyone here. How many times has people defend Obama by pulling out the race card? I'm actually really interested because I've had nonce, but I know there are idiots on Twitter and I don't touch the stuff myself.

As to me, I would have a very tough time voting Biden because of what he and Obama did together. Also, they are still way better than Trump. Notice how I did use a race card there, because I actually don't know if you think that I am. US politics is like choosing between a shit sandwich and a turdburger with a leaf of lettuce for about 4 decades now. All of them are mass murderers. You gotta pick the one you think will kill the least.

"Obama was vilified for daring to be president despite being black. Can you imagine how people would react when America gets a president that's both black AND a woman? "

Does this sound like the phrase of someone saying, "Yeah this racist minority were a bunch of jerks"? No, this is the phrase of someone saying the country was up in arms over a black man daring to be elected president.
There would definitely be people up in arms over his and her colour and gender. But that's not the issue. Hades used the term 'people' and you think that means you. Not everything is about you. Hades is not attacking you personally. And they are very right, some people would be up in arms. They could have worded that sentence so it was more specific, instead of a generalised 'people', I'll definitely grant that. But not everyone is out to get you man. I don't want to speak for Hades, but I'd doubt they think you are that sort of person. Pretending people are attacking you only gets you worked up.

So let's take a minor example of this up in arms thing. Obama was questioned on where he was born.. because racists are idiots and cannot imagine that back person can reach the white house. They have to pretend that NO ONE, including the DNC and GOP, thought to check his birth certificate before he entered the race which... I don't know whether you've seen the debates. They tend to pick up on negative things very quickly. I cannot imagine his political opponent, the GOP, letting that slide because that would be an automatic win for them. But, talking sense to racist is not very productive. They wouldn't believe me if I explained it in the most eloquent fashion
 

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YEAH, FUCK CHECKS AND BALANCES!

This is why Trump is doing such a great job. None of us are at all sick of poorly thought out executive orders. Keep 'em coming!
Well, I would say that Congress has no appetite for doing anything. They are pretty useless and are just there for the paycheck. That being said, EOs sounds a lot like royal decrees. Which is terrible. I don't know why Congress is too focus on it own stupidity but we're just going to get more EOs that will breach freedom as time goes on.
 

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Unsurprising if somewhat disappointing. Although Trump's race-bating kind of made this inevitable. He's had a hard time getting his attacks on Biden to stick, and having a woman of color in the race further scrambles his attempt at messaging.

Well, I would say that Congress has no appetite for doing anything. They are pretty useless and are just there for the paycheck. That being said, EOs sounds a lot like royal decrees. Which is terrible. I don't know why Congress is too focus on it own stupidity but we're just going to get more EOs that will breach freedom as time goes on.
Fortunately, most of Trump's EOs are like his marriage vows: a shallow bit of theater with no enforcement mechanism.
 

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Republicans vote for the party, whichever slimy head sprouts from it, standards be damned. Yet left's only see the head, not the party, and vote only for that, which makes republican attacks far more effective than democratic ones, because repubs know their party is just throwing every kind of imagined bullshit at the wall to see what sticks and refuse to see any criticism of their own as anything but that. This is what keeps them in power. This is why things will only get worse.
 
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Ya know we've known about this for a while right?



Can we stop with this revisionist bull shit? Or did you live under a rock during our 2008 election? Or maybe the only news station from the US you guys get over there comes directly from the KKK? This stupid freaking excuse for what was wrong with Obama, "OH IT'S WACISM!!!!" being used every single time someone has a problem with someone who's black. Get over yourself.
The people who hated Obama because he was black and insisted he was Kenyan have very little crossover with the people who didn't like Obama because he was basically a war criminal and a mealy mouthed liberal centrist. I don't like Harris because I think she's pretty right wing, but if she ends up president the American right will still insist she's a secret communist muslim and probably transgender.
 
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Biden has picked Kamala Harris for VP. As I think, if elected, due to health issues, he will almost immediately step down, she would be the next POTUS of the US. Man I wish my Tulsi had won.


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Whatever, just wash your hands.
The Democrats are hoping to elect a man who's VP believes he's a rapist. At least the Republicans have the decency to deny that rheir candidate is a rapist. When the Dems are running on "choose our rapist, he's better (not at rapes)" reeaalllly hard to claim they're the good guys.
Considering those rape allegations are probably bullshit, I wouldn't be surprised if she changed her mind.

At best you have Biden being kinda creepy with woman, trump has much more credible cases against him.
 

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Considering those rape allegations are probably bullshit, I wouldn't be surprised if she changed her mind.

At best you have Biden being kinda creepy with woman, trump has much more credible cases against him.
The Republicans have a rapist, our guy only inappropriately touches and smells women! See you at the polls!
-Biden/Harris 2020
 

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Here’s a question for you all. Who would you pick. Clinton 2016 or Biden 2020?
Biden 2020. I don't think there's a huge policy distinction, so it's down to the person. Biden has flaws galore, but they're relatable, predictable flaws. He sticks his foot in his mouth, he lets his family get away with corruption, these are sympathetic flaws. Clinton's flaws are not normal people flaws. They're like psycho flaws. I voted a big "neither" in 2016, but there wasn't the tiniest chance of me voting Clinton with the footage of "we came, we saw, he died" floating about.
 

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Considering those rape allegations are probably bullshit, I wouldn't be surprised if she changed her mind.

At best you have Biden being kinda creepy with woman, trump has much more credible cases against him.
The Republicans have a rapist, our guy only inappropriately touches and smells women! See you at the polls!
-Biden/Harris 2020

I think, like this writer, most Biden voters do believe that Joe digitally raped Ms. Reid and are voting for him anyway.

When it became apparent that Clinton would complete 2 terms, Never Trumper Peggy Noonan opined that she believed voters were thinking, "he's a cad? that's his wife's problems. I want someone that can do the job".

A VP's first job is to be able to take over if POTUS cannot serve and continue to implement the policies of that POTUS.

Joe Biden is a dispicable political whore. He told us he was. I think Kamala is one too. She can do a good job as his VP, selling us out as fast, continuously and repeatedly as possible. It is what he will do. If/when he steps down for health reasons, possibly in his first year, she will be able to continue his primary campaign pledge to betray us and sell us out in this manner. So to that extent.... good pick?
 

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his primary campaign pledge to betray us [....]
If you pledge to betray someone, then surely it isn't a betrayal?

Biden 2020. I don't think there's a huge policy distinction [...]
Biden's environmental plan has 20 times the funds allocated to it than Clinton's. Then there's the universally-available public healthcare option. I'd say those are some pretty major differences.
 
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Republican ads have quite a unique ability to make the trashy candidates they're attacking sound good. It'd be nice if the fever dreams of conservatives were even half-true.

 

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Republican ads have quite a unique ability to make the trashy candidates they're attacking sound good. It'd be nice if the fever dreams of conservatives were even half-true.
I get the feeling that even if the democrats literally ran Mitt freakin' Romney for president, trump's people would scream that he's a radical leftist and a communist.
 
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