10 and 15 year old sent home from school for wearing a shirt that said the wrong things
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Anyone (Citizen of the US) who can't accept other people's beliefs are just different, frankly, are not American. The United States was founded on religious freedom, sure that originally meant for Purists, however, anyone who wants to persecute religions other than their own, feel free to head back to England. If they don't want you, I hear Australia is nice this time of year. If THEY don't want you, enjoy life at sea. I wish parents would stop spreading their bigotry, though.
Don't doubt it. Speaking as a teacher, I know we would send a student home to change in my district for the same sentiment expressed towards Christians, Jews or any other religious group (ESPECIALLY in an elementary school; one of these kids was 10, no?).JenXXXJen said:
Also, I think the reference to Zero Tolerance rules are a little misplaced. All of the policies I've ever heard of re: ZT are about drugs and weapons. This clearly wasn't an issue of ZT because the kids weren't expelled, just asked to change. I agree that ZT can get a little nuts, and the motivation IS a bit right-wing, but it doesn't apply here.
The story itself? The school did as it should have, the kids did what they should have (obey your parents, even if they are fruit-loops). The Dad? He got what he wanted. He used his adolescent daughters to gain attention for his wing-nut, bigoted beliefs. We are all talking about his crazy ass.
It's funny they chose "Islam is the devil", when saying such a thing as a Muslim would be the complete opposite of your religion. Isn't ignorance great? You can say completely stupid and incorrect things, and still think everyone else is wrong!
I feel sorry for these kids. It's like those one kids who got brainwashed into being Nazis. I don't feel sorry for them for being ignorant and stupid. I feel sorry for them because they are ignorant and stupid since their FATHER is ignorant and stupid. If I met them in person, however, I'd probably bunch them very hard. I don't think throwing punches should be sexist.
I feel sorry for these kids. It's like those one kids who got brainwashed into being Nazis. I don't feel sorry for them for being ignorant and stupid. I feel sorry for them because they are ignorant and stupid since their FATHER is ignorant and stupid. If I met them in person, however, I'd probably bunch them very hard. I don't think throwing punches should be sexist.
Wow, this is not even close to true. Atheists would also be told to not wear a shirt saying this in school. Why? Because it disrupts the "safe" atmosphere that every public school is obliged to provide. This is an issue because of the hate-mongering and utter classlessness of the shirts, and their intention to disrupt a center of education.RelexCryo said:
The shirt was fine until they attacked Islam. Even then it would be fine, but a 10 year old at school? You can't have gang signs, violent pictures, or inappropriate clothing at school. Hate against religions also goes along those lines. Okay in public, not at school.
The father looks like the type of cheesy slime ball I just want to punch. I mean shit just look at the dead rat on his fat chin! Also, while showing your children your beliefs and letting them decide is fine, this pig is shoving them into it, forcefully. That's beyond low.
Having said that, I do not defend Islam on any level. As a religion (like any religion), it's stupid, hateful, and used as a 'one size fits all' reason for people to oppress others and suppress knowledge. As a culture, Islam is downright barbaric. Women treated as property, disgusting forms of capital punishment, and a violently enforced prohibition of alcohol.
I may not be the proudest American, but I'm damn happy I don't live in Europe, where Sharia law is slowly infecting and tainting REAL courts.
Having said that, I do not defend Islam on any level. As a religion (like any religion), it's stupid, hateful, and used as a 'one size fits all' reason for people to oppress others and suppress knowledge. As a culture, Islam is downright barbaric. Women treated as property, disgusting forms of capital punishment, and a violently enforced prohibition of alcohol.
I may not be the proudest American, but I'm damn happy I don't live in Europe, where Sharia law is slowly infecting and tainting REAL courts.
I want an "All of your beliefs are wrong, nah nah nah nah" shirt. That way I could tell who would overreact to situations...
OT: I don't think that religion bashing should be allowed at school, and if it is, it must lead to a debate with both sides presenting valid points, until one is deemed the winner, whilst the loser is fed to hungry elk.
OT: I don't think that religion bashing should be allowed at school, and if it is, it must lead to a debate with both sides presenting valid points, until one is deemed the winner, whilst the loser is fed to hungry elk.
I'm probably the only one wondering how the dad made the shirts, aren't I?
I want a shirt maker machine, too.
OT: Unfortunately, no matter how much I think these people are total bigots, they are protected by free speech.
I want a shirt maker machine, too.
OT: Unfortunately, no matter how much I think these people are total bigots, they are protected by free speech.
I live in the bible belt and I have 2 shirts that say "Heaven Shall Burn" on them... one you can't really read that well, but the other is in block letters... nobody at my school never said anything...
"The Dove center has come under fire already for posting a sign with the same message, which it says will help "expose" Islam as "a violent and oppressive religion" that is trying to deceive and destroy society."
hmm... I wonder what all the people living in Islamic societies would have to say about that?
I wonder if any of these people have made even the slightest effort to understand the tenets of Islam or to examine the many facets of our own culture and sciences that exist because of members of Islamic societies contributions?
If the school had a dress code anything like the ones I went to, then they had every right to send those children home. Ours stated that clothes that promote bigotry or discrimination against an ethnic, gender, religious, or social group will not be tolerated. I'm willing to bet they have the same thing in Florida.
hmm... I wonder what all the people living in Islamic societies would have to say about that?
I wonder if any of these people have made even the slightest effort to understand the tenets of Islam or to examine the many facets of our own culture and sciences that exist because of members of Islamic societies contributions?
If the school had a dress code anything like the ones I went to, then they had every right to send those children home. Ours stated that clothes that promote bigotry or discrimination against an ethnic, gender, religious, or social group will not be tolerated. I'm willing to bet they have the same thing in Florida.