10 year old girl Rapes 4 year old boy

[Tanakh]

- I didn't said it was "the most common", I did said it was quite plausible. Again in the freaking context with the other post which find it unlikely.

If it is not the most common then the most common case is she wasn't even menstruating.

Holy crap! Again, "I didn't said it was "the most common", I did said it was quite plausible.". It is clear to me that more than 50% of girls aren't menstruating at 9 yo.

And a "most likely" scenario DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN MORE THAN 50% of the time. It is just the one that has highest probabilities... and damn! Several posts ago I said it was only the most probable IMO.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

I... I don't know. It is entirely possible she actually did know that what she was doing was sexual and was wrong, but if she did know that then there are likely other far more important issues to be addressed. If she didn't, then she is no more guilty of any crime than the four year-old boy.

 

[Psychobabble]

While this may indeed be an incident of kids just being kids, I have to wonder if the sheer amount of over-sexualization of our media didn't have some impact on her behavior.

Or the over-sexualisation of our media is causing people to project their own sexual awareness on to a nine year old.

I'm sorry but I just can't accept your reasoning. If that were the case it would mean the people showing concern would be nothing but self serving judgmental fear mongering busy bodies, projecting their own inadequacies onto some uninvolved third party boogeyman. Which I think you would agree would make the whole argument farce.

And I have to agree with whatever poster quoted David Cameron. "Think of the children" indeed. Especially around chucking out time so you don't accidentally leave them at the pub.

 

[LetalisK]

Child molestation of a another child is a real thing and is often overlooked. I am more concerned for the boy. the article wasnt clear on the severity of it, or how the boy is doing.

That's because boys are supposed to be tough and girls are supposed to be fragile and innocent in our society. Notice all the attention of the article is on how the girl is the victim of the system while jack shit is said about the boy. Or maybe it has nothing to do with sexism and people would still be that ignorant if the sexes were reversed. Anyway, it could be nothing and amount to nothing, but that's not a gamble I'm willing to take and it's the immediate dismissal that disgusts me. But what do I know, I'm clearly too close to a case like this where someone I'm very close to was touched by her step-brother, they were of similar age as these two, and it has followed her throughout her life because of the significant psychological trauma, so I'm not one to knee-jerk hand-wave it away as kids being kids.

 

[Evil Smurf]

I hope both kids are okay, I've seen the trauma they could be going through.

 

[Phrozenflame500]

A couple of things:

-It was sexual assault, not rape. Please amend the click-baity title
-They were "playing doctor", and most likely didn't realize what they were doing was wrong

Really the parents are 110% at fault for both not watching their fucking children and pressing charges for something that kinda is harmless and could have been solved by a smack on the wrist and a weeks grounding.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

- I didn't said it was "the most common", I did said it was quite plausible. Again in the freaking context with the other post which find it unlikely.

If it is not the most common then the most common case is she wasn't even menstruating.

Holy crap! Again, "I didn't said it was "the most common", I did said it was quite plausible.". It is clear to me that more than 50% of girls aren't menstruating at 9 yo.

And a "most likely" scenario DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN MORE THAN 50% of the time. It is just the one that has highest probabilities... and damn! Several posts ago I said it was only the most probable IMO.

But it's not the most probable case. IF there's a 50%+ chance she's not menstruating and not feeling sexual pleasure from it then it's not most likely she did it for sexual pleasure.

Let me give you a series of probabilities.
A-35%
B-25%
C-20%
D-20%
In this case, A is the most likely scenario. Also, the likelihood that she was motivated by sexual desire ultimately isn't dependent on the chance that she had already been menstruating (at least not in that way). Think of it like this.
10% of weebles are given red boxes. 30% of weebles are given green boxes. 50% of the red boxes explode, while only 10% of the green boxes do. You find a weeble who dies from an exploding box. The weeble most likely had recieved a red box, and it blew the weeble up.
However, it's all irrelevant. His original claim was that it was "quite likely."

 

[Norithics]

Man, it's like I've stepped into the Twilight Zone. This happened to plenty of the kids I knew. It was just a... thing that happened. I mean, yeah, it can be unfortunate sometimes and lead to bad things later, but it's hardly something for the legal system, jesus.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

- I didn't said it was "the most common", I did said it was quite plausible. Again in the freaking context with the other post which find it unlikely.

If it is not the most common then the most common case is she wasn't even menstruating.

Holy crap! Again, "I didn't said it was "the most common", I did said it was quite plausible.". It is clear to me that more than 50% of girls aren't menstruating at 9 yo.

And a "most likely" scenario DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN MORE THAN 50% of the time. It is just the one that has highest probabilities... and damn! Several posts ago I said it was only the most probable IMO.

But it's not the most probable case. IF there's a 50%+ chance she's not menstruating and not feeling sexual pleasure from it then it's not most likely she did it for sexual pleasure.

Let me give you a series of probabilities.
A-35%
B-25%
C-20%
D-20%
In this case, A is the most likely scenario. Also, the likelihood that she was motivated by sexual desire ultimately isn't dependent on the chance that she had already been menstruating (at least not in that way). Think of it like this.
10% of weebles are given red boxes. 30% of weebles are given green boxes. 50% of the red boxes explode, while only 10% of the green boxes do. You find a weeble who dies from an exploding box. The weeble most likely had recieved a red box, and it blew the weeble up.
However, it's all irrelevant. His original claim was that it was "quite likely."

Yes, I get that. In this case it does not split up like that so that's pointless.

The claim was that the most likely case was that she took sexual pleasure in it. The only other relevant case to that claim is the case where she does not.

That's a false dichotomy. THere are many other possible motives than sexual pleasure and not sexual pleasure. And even if there were only two possible motives, as our lesson on weebles and boxes can teach us, that doesn't mean that the motive that was less likely to exist is less likely to be the cause.

On a side note, I'm sorry if this all winds up seeming overly annoying or anything like that. It's just that talking about math helps me feel less uncomfortable right now. This topic hits a bit close to home.

 

[Erttheking]

I'm starting to get the feeling that Texas isn't too far away from looking like the Judge Dredd universe.

 

[Aramis Night]

http://voices.yahoo.com/4-year-old-accused-sexual-harassment-136430.html Oh fun, we get to pretend this is a new problem. This has been the direction these incidents have been heading towards for a while now. Not towards sanity, but towards this.

I did love while searching for this story, buyer-pricer.com was offering me deals on sexual harassment. I love the internet sometimes.

 

[discountninja]

Is an online video game magazine really the place for these kind of forum posts?

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

- I didn't said it was "the most common", I did said it was quite plausible. Again in the freaking context with the other post which find it unlikely.

If it is not the most common then the most common case is she wasn't even menstruating.

Holy crap! Again, "I didn't said it was "the most common", I did said it was quite plausible.". It is clear to me that more than 50% of girls aren't menstruating at 9 yo.

And a "most likely" scenario DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN MORE THAN 50% of the time. It is just the one that has highest probabilities... and damn! Several posts ago I said it was only the most probable IMO.

But it's not the most probable case. IF there's a 50%+ chance she's not menstruating and not feeling sexual pleasure from it then it's not most likely she did it for sexual pleasure.

Let me give you a series of probabilities.
A-35%
B-25%
C-20%
D-20%
In this case, A is the most likely scenario. Also, the likelihood that she was motivated by sexual desire ultimately isn't dependent on the chance that she had already been menstruating (at least not in that way). Think of it like this.
10% of weebles are given red boxes. 30% of weebles are given green boxes. 50% of the red boxes explode, while only 10% of the green boxes do. You find a weeble who dies from an exploding box. The weeble most likely had recieved a red box, and it blew the weeble up.
However, it's all irrelevant. His original claim was that it was "quite likely."

Yes, I get that. In this case it does not split up like that so that's pointless.

The claim was that the most likely case was that she took sexual pleasure in it. The only other relevant case to that claim is the case where she does not.

That's a false dichotomy. THere are many other possible motives than sexual pleasure and not sexual pleasure. And even if there were only two possible motives, as our lesson on weebles and boxes can teach us, that doesn't mean that the motive that was less likely to exist is less likely to be the cause.

On a side note, I'm sorry if this all winds up seeming overly annoying or anything like that. It's just that talking about math helps me feel less uncomfortable right now. This topic hits a bit close to home.

I said relevant case. If she's not doing it for sexual pleasure, unless the idea was to torment him I'm not seeing what other distinction between motives is relevant.

Curiosity and bullying are both possible motives, with both possibly covering a wide range of motives depending on how you break them down. And I will say it again (and clarify a little better), the prevalence among the general population of a motive does not impact the likelihood of a motive in the way you are claiming it. Most people aren't sadists. Most torture-killers are. Assuming that a torture-torture killer is most likely a sadist isn't wrong because only 10% (or whatever) of the general population are sadists.

 

[RicoADF]

Misleading title is misleading...



What do you do to a curious little girl? Charge her with sexual assault is what you do! That's sure to alleviate the issue with the least amount of stress on the child.

I'm not saying what she did was right, she should certainly be punished, but it should be in way she can understand and one that doesn't scar her for life.

This.

What she did was inappropriate but she was 9 years old, I seriously doubt it was sexually motivated or for the purposes of sexual gratification. She probably didnt understand the full implication of what she was actually doing.

She should be taught what is and isn't appropriate but inappropriate touching during a game of doctors doesn't really strike me as "aggravated sexual assault".

Edit: Given that this is the Escapist. Yes, I would think the same if it was a 9 year old boy.

Agreed with your above statement, she's a kid too young to understand what she was doing. If this wasn't the first time then maybe a harsher punishment but even then charging with sexual assault is serious, I think it's gone too far. Idk we don't really know the whole story.

 

[TheNewGuy]

Hmm... I don't think this is really rape per se. It sounds like the girl was just exploring the genitalia of the opposite gender. Every kid gets curious and plenty of children play doctor, there's nothing wrong with that.

All I think that needs to happen is that that girl should have someone calmly and rationally explain to her that while it's okay to be curious, it's not polite to touch other people's private places. Also it might be good to remind that boy that if anyone older than him touches him in that area he should get away and tell an adult.